Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Oh come on Nate, we can create a Christmas raffle for this on some unique player-owned items this go around. Considering it's about the time for giving, I'm sure there'd be player interest to take part in it.   Alternatively, 50

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people I think Cosmic Rage would be open to such a venture, but, am not entirely sure if the player interest would be large enough, sadly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482336/#p482336 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people We are totally open to doing some other kind of raffle with $1 tickets if people are interested and if anyones willing to donate prizes or suggest prizes. Let us know what your interested in and we can talk it over. URL: https

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Oh look, the random political attacks have arrived to the derail the topic. unlike many, many, many others that have made a wrong accusation, Jayde retracted their position and apologized. most others tend to be constantly

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Lol. What a shitshow. Saving this one. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482086/#p482086 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Wow! I never new this topic would be so explosive when I clicked on it to see what it was.I was like, huh, Alter Aeon is running a lottery? that's cool I woo *gets blown backwards out the door*.Amusement aside, I wanted

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people @Jayde You may wish to edit post #24 with a retraction at the top to avoid any further confusion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/481863/#p481863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people I guess the bit where I kind of just held myself accountable for making a mistake went past you?I guess the fact that I own my shit when I'm wrong doesn't occur?Everyone makes mistakes. Absolutely everyone. Please don't get

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people I think I must add here, to lessen any confusion that may be floating around, that at no point in time did I mean to misrepresent Shadowfax.  The sections concerning the rules were in fact added in by us to showcase what

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people I guess I'm just hung up on the fact that you can let yourself off the hook whenever you want, but you're the one constantly telling others what they're doing isn't OK. Who holds you accountable? Because you don't always make

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Take note of a few things.1. I absolutely did not go on Alter in order to bash anyone. I could have, but at no point was I anywhere close to doing so. That would have been extremely trashy.2. I acted based on a misunderstanding

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people OK then, the SJW has arrived. God, is this how people see me when I go off on people? Because, if so, i hate myself about a hundred times worse than I already do.Jesus, like it's any of your business how they run their game. Also

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Well, my outrage was based 97% on a complete and utter misunderstanding on my part. I thought Shadowfax was largely stating his own views alongside the other stuff he posted in his mudmail to you, when in fact you were just

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people W lets all take a deep, collective breath if we can.First, at post 18: Dentin, thank you for the way you handled the situation.  I cannot honestly know if in fact your having stepped in as late as you did and in the way

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people W lets all take a deep, collective breath if we can.First, at post 18: Dentin, thank you for the way you handled the situation.  I cannot honestly know if in fact your having stepped in as late as you did and in the way

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people If Shadowfax had on his own initiative said the things I thought he said, then that would, in my estimation, mean a pretty large problem.I was wrong on this, however, especially if Nocturnis only quoted rules for clarity vs

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Jayde, you have made some bad assumptions.  This is the full text of the private message that was sent:-From:  ShadowfaxSent:  Sunday, December 1st, 2019 at 06:20:27 amI have removed your message from board 7 regarding

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Then that speaks to the whole staff, and actually makes my point one of the game itself, and not of Shadowfax personally. I do not remember those second parts of the rules being phrased quite so oppressively.As such, I withdraw

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people https://alteraeon.com:8081/rules/4/6https://alteraeon.com:8081/rules/4/7He quoted the rules verbatim. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/481812/#p481812 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people No malice? Well, let's see, shall we? Deconstruction time.4.6  - Thou shalt not run financial scamsThis includes any kind of scam where a player asks other players forloans of money, gold, or credits in-game with a promise to pay

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Jayde:  Shadowfax couldn't get in touch with me either, and he felt like he needed to do something, even if it was wrong.  He tried to find the best set of rules he could, and made a decision based on it.  Shadowfax sent

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people I am thoroughly disgusted by Shadowfax's response here, especially in light of what Dentin said in the post above yours. It appeared that Dentin was playing cautious but was not slamming the door on anything, so to be dealt

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people I am thoroughly disgusted by Shadowfax's response here, especially in light of what Dentin said in the post above yours. It appeared that Dentin was playing cautious but was not slamming the door on anything, so to be dealt

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people I apologize for the lack of clarity as well, and we shouldn't go around casting blame.  We make the best decisions we can with the information we have, and sometimes we're wrong.  That's ok.Personally, I don't think

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Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people I am thoroughly disgusted by Shadowfax's response here, especially in light of what Dentin said in the post above yours. It appeared that Dentin was playing cautious but was not slamming the door on anything, so to be dealt

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people The people who organized this lottery don't strike me as being particularly untrustworthy, either. The thing is, this could definitely fall under the rules that Shadowfax mentioned. While I personally have no doubt

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Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Update:It will be necessary to disclose a bit of information before going any further on our end.  When you do something of this nature it is hard to determine what someone's response is going to be. All you can do

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people I'm looking into this and trying to see what makes sense from the game/server standpoint.  Unfortunately, things involving RL cash potentially open AA up to various legal and money laundering concerns.  We'll try to put down some

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people @16, thank you for the understanding.  Our idea was to give something in return, or to try to, so people didn't feel like we weren't doing our part and just hoping someone else was going to put forth the bill.  We've already

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Meh, I'll probably aim to make a direct donation to the fund rather than having half of it go to a lottery for a game I don't really care for anymore. Will look into this once December rolls around next week.  But eesh, I've

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Always, every time. I am often firm on first glance because I feel that I have to be. I'm sometimes dead wrong about that, which is why it was such a shit-show when I first showed up.Anyway, definitely don't want to derail

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people See?  That, right there, is why I thought Jayde was honestly the best step forward for the forum moderation panel.  I've seen him be hard headed, but I've also seen him be exceptionally diplomatic.  When he can get both aspects

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people See?  That, right there, is why I thought Jayde was honestly the best step forward for the forum moderation panel.  I've seen him be hard headed, but I've also seen him be exceptionally diplomatic.  When he can get both aspects

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people See, that doesn't work though. Haven't you ever heard of benefit of the doubt?Nobody's making you spend money on this. Don't if you're not comfy with it, that's totally your jam and no one should shame you for abstaining

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Jayde wrote:Given Nocturnis's reputation, I would say that transparency, or fairness at the very, very least, should go without saying. To my knowledge, Nocturnis has never screwed anyone over, so this sort of flagging

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Jayde wrote:Given Nocturnis's reputation, I would say that transparency, or fairness at the very, very least, should go without saying. To my knowledge, Nocturnis has never screwed anyone over, so this sort of flagging

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Aha, yeah I guess since the actual tickets are being bought off game, it isn't the same as it being handled with in-game currency. There's still a chance Dentin may not approve, but there's a limit to what he can do with anything

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Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Update: Morpheus has emphatically stated that 3.12 does not apply to us for two reason:1.  We're not using in game currency to sell or otherwise generate credits.2.  NO bot will be used; all is being done manually.He does agree

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Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Update: Morpheus has emphatically stated that 3.12 does not apply to us for two reason:1.  We're not using in game currency to sell credits.2.  NO bot will be used; all is being done manually.He does agree however, and was first

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Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Understood, and thank you for the concern.  For what it's worth we will not be using a bot of any kind; everything will be done manually.  I"m not sure if that'll make a difference, so as I said previously we have in fact

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people It's rule 3.12. It says lotteries can only involve Gold. Although, maybe that only applies to bot lotteries. I wouldn't think the rules would be different, but it's possible. Morpheus would probably know better than me, but he's

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people It's rule 3.12. It says lotteries can only involve Gold. Although, maybe that only applies to bot lotteries. I wouldn't think the rules would be different, but it's possible. Morpheus would probably know better than me, but he's

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people @Loxias:1.  Morpheus has already stated it's alright, which conflicts with your statement.2.  The mechanics for exchanging/gifting/giving credits from one char to another actually exist.  Why code something into a game that you

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people @Loxias:1.  Morpheus has already stated it's alright, which conflicts with your statement.2.  The mechanics for exchanging/gifting/giving credits from one char to another actually exist.If you would do us a favor and refer us

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people You might want to read the rules regarding lotteries - credits aren't allowed to be exchanged, only gold. Good idea though, lotteries are popular when they pop up. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/481271/#p481271

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Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people NO worries, Jayde.  I actually already received that kind of response on AA itself.  We're trying to reach out to Dentin in hopes that he too will give us a bit of support.  We're willing to be held accountable by whatever means

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Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Yap, agreed Ogomez92 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/481247/#p481247 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Given Nocturnis's reputation, I would say that transparency, or fairness at the very, very least, should go without saying. To my knowledge, Nocturnis has never screwed anyone over, so this sort of flagging is an awfully

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Re: Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Hisounds great but I assume you guys will use some sort of publicly viewable and transparent software to draw lottery winners? This could easily be exploited to, say, have pre chosen winners selected from a group of your friends

Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people

Alter Aeon: a credit lottery started by the night people Credits!  Credits!  Thousands of credits!  You may be able to win them all!  For less than the price of a 20 ounce soda in the United States you can win thousands of credits!  One dollar?  One ticket to win one of seven prizes