Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper hi, why not try reaper's midi editing? everyone pukes at it but it really isn't too bad and the editor has really nice tricks at its sleeve. Reapers' virtual midi keyboard is not the best, but it does allow you to change tonality or key with the arrow keys. I would also go with a smaller controller. I do have the M audio keystation mini and its much better that way for playing, for expressiveness, control, ETC. If you plan to use virtual instruments (this depends a lot on the style you use) but some of them have different ways of expressing something. Usually reading their manuals will tell you how certain midi parameter changes take effect on the sound that they produce. For drum beats there are loops, audio or midi you can get all over the internet now... so you would not necessarily hae to write them out. and at least this controller does have a drum velocity mode, which basically makes it easier to play loudly, or softly. I have done things that are audio and midi based at the same time, mixing and some conversions ETC with reaper and reaper only. And trust me if you plan on writing then its better to record your ideas and transcribe them later, or if you want to go directly into writing then stick to that. I use lilypond because it outputs professional looking scores almost right out of the box in the great majority of cases. If its a backing track that I would like to play on (I wish I could sing lol) then that is in itself a whole different story. And depending on the style of music, a staff with a melody, another with the hits or breaks and a line of chord symbols above those two staves will be enough for most bands and copyright registration matters. If its classical you are writing or a very very specific, off the wall groove or arrangement then yes, everything should be notated. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318832#p318832 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper About ABC notation:mehdi0098 wrote:Am I able to also write drum beats (or patterns) with things like these?So far as I know, the capabilities really depend on the language you use. As I say I've not really played with ABC notation and midi files a lot, so I can't really give you much advice. But I'm reasonably certain that anything that's at least intermediate should allow you to do these things. The more advanced you aim for, the more you can do.About onscreen keyboards and editing:mehdi0098 wrote:Am I able to specify the notes and chords without actually playing them?Yes, you can but you'll have to use the editing facilities of QWS to insert notes. I personally have gotten good enough even with onscreen keyboard to play most things out, at least for sketching purposes. But there are ways to insert notes without playing them.mehdi0098 wrote:Speacking of onscreen keyboard: Am I able to change the transpose of the keyboard? or choose another scale?You can transpose the keyboard by going to the options menu, then midi assignments. The first option iirc is transpose. This affects both onscreen and regular keyboard input, so if you do get a real controler, keep that in mind.As for changing the scale, I'm a little confused about what you mean. The onscreen keyboard is chromatic so you can play all 12 notes. However, you can change which keys do what in the options menu, under the onscreen keyboard settings. I've not messed with these much, but you can supposedly change which keys play what. When I tried messing with this, I once killed the entire onscreen keyboard and had to delete my qws.ini file and start from scratch, so I can't really help you with adjusting those settings. Lolmehdi0098 wrote:Could you please explain some more about editing in QWS? Which options and tools should I look into in QWS?The two tools you will probably use most are the note editor (accessed with control K) and event list (accessed with control L). The note editor places you in a sort of grid where all your notes are shown. It's a visual tool and doesn't work well with screen readers, but it's very navigable by the keyboard, and is the preferred way of adding and editing notes. I don't remember exactly where, but on the QWS web site, there should be a series of tutorials, and one of them spends considerable time with the note editor. I found that one to be very helpful. If such a tutorial isn't there, I might try to make one if needed.The event list basically shows lists of all the midi messages in your file, in cluding notes. This is where I normally go to do more advanced things, but you can insert and edit notes here as well. I used to use this tool before I became familiar with note editor. For now, I won't go into how to use these two tools since that would make for a huge post and I don't think I could explain it very well at the moment. I'm too tired. LolFinally, setting up Superior Drummer. I'll elaborate a bit more on the two ways I described.First way: making drums with Microsoft Wavetable and then importing into ReaperThis is the simplest, but it has a drawback. Because you can't actually hear Superior Drummer while you're making the drums, it's much harder to know how something will sound. Also, I'm not sure how Superior Drummer's actual drums are placed across the keyboard. I know this can probably be changed but I doubt it's accessible. assuming its placement is similar enough, you simply create the midi wit h QWS, save it, then in Reaper you would press the insert key to import a media file. From there a dialog would come up and you would select the midi file. Then on the new track with the midi file on it, you'd put Superior Drummer on that track.The second way of making the drum track using a midi cable:What you'd have to do is install a midi cable driver, (a lot of people recommend the Midi Yoke driver but that doesn't work so well past XP). So I recommend another one called Loop Midi. It's more customizable and I've run it without problems in Win10 64 bit, so I recommend it. So you would install that, and open its control panel and create a loop midi port. It's not too complicated once you sort of mess with its interface. Once a new midi port is created, you would then set Reaper up to receive data for that port and then set up QWS to send data through to the port. There is an old but somewhat relevant article on the QWS site about using V STS with QWS. That article uses a program called VST Host, but the same thing works in Reaper too. Of course the procedure is different for setting Reaper up, so I might have to ellaborate on that in future if needed.Once the setup is done, you'd go into a track in Reaper, load Superior Drummer on it, then make a new track in qWS and make sure it's sending out to the loop midi port you created, and Superior Drummer will start receiving the notes as you play, and you can make your drums. The
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper I wrote a ton of hotspot clicker functions for superior drummer. Anyone's welcome to them. But then I'd have to write some sort of help guide/ shortcut key list so only if you're desperate to try out some half arsed functions that make Superior accessible to me but might not work for anyone else . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318340#p318340 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper A virtual midi cable, like Midi Yoke, will facilitate the connection between the sequencer and an external synthesizer or vst. It's the virtual equivalent of plugging in a physical midi keyboard. Speaking of which, if the onscreen keyboard is frustrating, there are nice and cheap midi controllers around that rely on your computer's synth to function, or whatever external synth you may have, but having no actual samples, are very reasonably priced. I know you plan on writing and not playing music, but it's just easier to play as you go. Much more efficient to fix an error while you're at it rather than after the fact. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318317#p318317 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper A virtual midi cable, like Midi Yoke, will facilitate the connection between the sequencer and an external synthesizer or vst. It's the virtual equivalent of plugging in a physical midi keyboard. Speaking of which, if the onscreen keyboard is frustrating, there are nice and cheap midi controllers around that rely on your computer's synth to function, or whatever external synth you may have, but having no actual samples, are very reasonably priced. I know you plan on writing and not playing music, but it's just easier to play as you go. Much more efficient to fix an error while you're at it than after the fact. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318317#p318317 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper Hi again!assault_freak wrote:Midi notation if you have the head to wrap around things like that is wonderful and gets the job done quickly. But it does take time to learn whatever language you decide to use, as you are basically programming music.Could you suggest some well-known languages for this?* * *Thank you raygrote for such an in-depth reply. I learned a lot from you.raygrote wrote:While I don't have much experience with programs that actually specify acceptance of ABC notation, I do have some experience with similar endeavors. I am pretty sure that ABC notation is similar to MML, which is a system of writing music in a text file. You write letters a-g for the notes with additional symbols for accidentals such as sharp or flat. Numbers are used which describe the lengths of those notes such as 4 for quarter-note, 8 for eigh th-note, etc. I am fairly fluent in this type of writing, at least when I already know what I want to write down, and I'm certain there are many programs which can convert this notation to a midi file, but I would by no means suggest this as a primary method for writing music. I'd only really investigate it if you are looking into composing for old 80s sound chips and the like, since a lot of programs were used in those days which worked this way. For midi files, it's often not the best option, unless you find one of those scary mml to midi systems that have elements of a programming language. Those are pretty nifty, but for the average user, there are far more efficient ways to do what you want.Am I able to also write drum beats (or patterns) with things like these?raygrote wrote:The short answer to your questions is yes. You can use QWS to make songs with its onscreen keyboard. These son gs can have melodies, chords, and drums. And provided that you are comfortable editing, these songs can be as simple or complex as your imagination and patience will allow. I'll be the first to admit it does get a little frustrating at times depending on what you want to do... QWS isn't perfect, but I personally think it's the best option we have at the moment for midi sequencing.I have a question here: Am I able to specify the notes and chords without actually playing them?'cause I don't have a midi keyboard and playing with a laptop keyboard is frustrating or impossible at times.In other words: I want to write music, Not play it.Speacking of onscreen keyboard: Am I able to change the transpose of the keyboard? or choose another scale?raygrote wrote:A few things to keep in mind though. While you can hit multiple keys at once to play chords, you may have trouble playing certain chords, depending on the type of computer keyboard you have. Most keyboards that come with desktops and laptops are made cheaply, and while they are adequate for general use, they will not allow you to press unusual combinations of keys, and this will limit your ability to play chords. Using a better keyboard will mitigate this, but I wouldn't worry so much about that right now unless you actually want a better keyboard for typing and whatnot. For midi sequencing on an onscreen keyboard, it is more important that you learn how to edit your recorded performance. If you are proficient in editing, then you won't need an expensive computer keyboard that will allow you to play chords; you can simply do what you can with what you have, and add additional notes later with the editing tools of QWS. Learning how to edit is not only useful for that purpose, it is also useful in highly advanced maneuvers even if you are a master at playing a real keyboard. As you may suspect, there's a learning curve, and at this point I'll drop you off to allow you to work on your own. Just try not to be discouraged. It most likely won't come overnight. If you need help, I'm always willing to try to assist.Could you please explain some more about editing in QWS? Which options and tools should I look into in QWS?raygrote wrote:If you're like me, and love Reaper for using vst plug-ins but don't want to learn how to sequence in it, then this is a natural question to have. The short answer is yes, but it involves some work. You can do it in two ways:make the drums with something like microsoft GS Wavetable and then import that midi into Superior Drummer and hope it sounds okayUse something called a virtual midi cable to link QWS to Reaper, so that in essence QWS is controlling whatever vsts Reaper has loaded. IN this wa y, you can hear Superior Drummer while you're actually creating the drum trackYes, I'm exactly the way you described lol.I don't know anything about these two ways you introduced. Could you explain further especially about the first one?Again, Thanks for the reply! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318263#p318263 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper
Re: Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper Midi notation if you have the head to wrap around things like that is wonderful and gets the job done quickly. But it does take time to learn whatever language you decide to use, as you are basically programming music. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318040#p318040 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper
Question about MIDI making without a MIDI keyboard for use in reaper Hi guys!As many of you already know, If you add a midi on an instrument track in reaper you'll have a ready track with the notes and such.My question is How to make those midi tracks in windows?I've heard some people use QWS.I read its help but didn't understand how to place notes and chords in a track.Although it has onscreen keyboard but I want to be able to specify which chord (or melody note) should be played on which beat and also specify the duration by metronome beats.Because I don't have midi controler keyboard and want to write my pieces like that.Is QWS capable of something like this? And moreover, How to do this?I think I would be able to do such a thing with ABC notation but I want something much simpler like QWS.Speaking of ABC notation: What do you think about it? Has anyone used it? Would it have any use for someone in my situation?Last but not least, What about drum tracks? Would I be a ble to make those using tools like QWS and import it to reaper on a drum VST like superior drummer? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=318038#p318038 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
