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Re: youtube alternatives I've honestly never seen someone jump out and actually warn! big entertainment of this channel restriction as if they didn't know it already, to the point of getting kicked off for spam because of it. Seriously. As an independent content creator/contributor

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Re: youtube alternatives I completely agree with the last post. I also feel this needs to be said, so I'll bite the bullet and do so. I am legitimately concerned at the OP's current state of mind and/or mental health. The complaints they are leveraging are oddly specific and intense

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Re: youtube alternatives I think the problem is that people are taking this at face value, and not getting down and dirty with analyzing this. This is legal mumbo-jumbo, not some clickbate, folks. Get used to it. The last thing big media needs, and the first thing they needs

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Re: youtube alternatives A long video where a youtuber and an attorney discuss COPPA and the situationIt is rather thorough. Not much useful advice, though, on the grounds that there isn't much one can do besides comment to the FTC and hope they respond helpfully. And, uh, if comments

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Re: youtube alternatives Apparently, setting your content as not for kids will not save you, as the FTC will go ahead and treat anything they think of as "for kids" as being "for kids", from the sounds of it. The language of the COPPA is ... bad. It's like something wri

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Re: youtube alternatives Um, no. Just set your content as adult-orientated. Parents can whitelist stuff manually if they so choose. It's not that hard. It's too much of a risk to do mixed audience, because then if kids come across them then they can't do an age-check to see if they can do

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Re: youtube alternatives Youtube basicly wants content creators to be punnished through no fault of your own? Ever heard of the mixed audience exception? If something could be seen as targeting both kids and adults simaltaniuly (my tts preschool counts as such), it is exempt from coppa. I

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Re: youtube alternatives Agree. most of the youtube videos I watch are one's I don't feel comfterble watching in front of my caregiver, james lee, who is a staunch christion and has become very protective of what I watch. Anything he doesn't consider family friendly he calls garbage, so I

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Re: youtube alternatives I think the real losers are the ones who do want to produce kid-friendly content. They're apparently being barred from any significant form of ad revenue, can't get comments, and are subject to some other very crippling restrictions. That's a shame if you're, say

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Re: youtube alternatives From one lawyer's perspectiv:http://tricitiestales.jcink.net/There's other videos, but that is /not/ legal advice for anyone specific, as stated in that video. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/478989/#p478989 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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Re: youtube alternatives Algorithms aren't perfect, so they are not gointg to impulse fine without checking first. Also, why should one care about defending big media/video-making corporations by shouting atop the virtual roof? Safe the energy for defending those who don't have lobbyests

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Re: youtube alternatives Algorithms aren't perfect, so they are not gointg to impulse fine without checking first. Also, why should one care about defending big media/video-making corporations by shouting atop the virtual roof? Safe the energy for defending those who don't have lobbyests

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Re: youtube alternatives Funny you said that, I actually tried sending the petition link to Cinimasicre (the owners of the AVGN traidmark), who will aufen use both ftc and non kid friendly language in the same sentence. Let's players, especially those dealing with square enix games, may

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Re: youtube alternatives @americandad2005 This battle is not to be fought by the companies who have enough legal backing and money for lawsuit after lawsuit, as they're already in that battle along with most of the entertainment industry. The people in harm's way are the people who

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Re: youtube alternatives @americandad2005 This battle is not to be fought by the companies who have enough legal backing and money for lawsuit after lawsuit, as they're already in that battle along with most of the entertainment industry. The people in harm's way are the people who

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Re: youtube alternatives other people who might be affected hard are:parentsteachersthe guys adminasturing the TOEC test(toec being the english language comprehention and speaking test whho's passing is required for most jobs in areas where english isn't the native language)gaming

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Re: youtube alternatives Google tried. Remember the 'You need a Google Plus account to comment and it uses your real name' fiasco circa 2011/2012? They tried, and the backlash was brutal.Also, you need to (in theory) be 13 to even get a Google account. Is it too easy to as a 12 year old

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Re: youtube alternatives I tried sending a link to the petition to people that will be affected most. a fiew of them are kids channels owned by major companies, but most are gaming channels because the vaig wording of the coppa threatens to bend them over (I myself had a gaming channel

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Re: youtube alternatives Exactly. We're not at the point where we have anonymized age checks ayet, because the Government hasn't done anything to anonymize records so no amount of Blockchain would help to secure those until the Government actually gets with the times. As such, Google has

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Re: youtube alternatives Exactly. We're not at the point where we have anonymized age checks ayet, because the Government hasn't done anything to anonymize records so no amount of Blockchain would help to secure those until the Government actually gets with the times. As such, Google has

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Re: youtube alternatives COPPA's relegislated every decade, and it was supposed to wait till 2023, but parents pushed it forward to now. The FTC doesn't have a ton of budget however, it may well cost more to reamend than leave it as is. Or the politicians may not vote through

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Re: youtube alternatives Now that I've looked into this, I'm also not happy. My stance has completely changed.I watch the Disney Music Vevo channel a lot. If comments are turned off on that channel, that will mean I won't be able to discuss stuff with fellow Disney fans.Disney's a family

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Re: youtube alternatives The real question is: Did those coppa guys read the hitchhikers guide? Did they just say: 42 is the answer to everything, so we just add three zeros and that's the perfect fine? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/478722/#p478722 -- Audiogames-reflector

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Re: youtube alternatives a social media lawyer has started a petition to hopefully force youtube to back off from these practices.http://chng.it/DNc2L8LvLJ URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/478562/#p478562 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: youtube alternatives @Ethin: Let's not forget also the know-it-alls who attempt to rip into a Youtuber's career for using choice words that their kid, uh, found? when really it was their fault for allowing them, even indirectly, to view a video that was not at all meant for kids. URL

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Re: youtube alternatives @29, agreed again. If I'd ever done anything like theft, my parents would've grounded me for a month if not longer (which has never happened, ever). And unlike some parents, my parents actually know my way of disobeying their groundings, so they're quite capable

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Re: youtube alternatives @Ethin: Studies have actually shown, quite unsurprisingly, that technically engaged parental controls are usually performed by already strict parents that have strained relationships with their kids, or that they create strains/distance between parents and kids

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Re: youtube alternatives @27, word. I completely disapprove of giving children access to (any) kind of technology under the age of at minimum 6 that is as powerful as an iPhone or iPad. Kids always, always find ways around parental controls and other defensive mechanisms that are designed

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Re: youtube alternatives @27, word. I completely disapprove of giving children access to (any) kind of technology under the age of at minimum 6 that is as powerful as an iPhone or iPad. Kids always, always find ways around parental controls and other defensive mechanisms that are designed

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Re: youtube alternatives @27, word. I completely disapprove of giving children access to (any) kind of technology under the age of at minimum 6 that is as powerful as an iPhone or iPad. Kids always, always find ways around parental controls and other defensive mechanisms that are designed

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Re: youtube alternatives @27, word. I completely disapprove of giving children access to (any) kind of technology under the age of at minimum 6 that is as powerful as an iPhone or iPad. Kids always, always find ways around parental controls and other defensive mechanisms that are designed

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Re: youtube alternatives Coppa was originally supposed to mean that sites that collected personally identifiable information (first and last name, email, phone, etc.) could not legally allow those under 13 to join, failing the obvious fact there is no technical age verification and won't

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Re: youtube alternatives Coppa was originally supposed to mean that sites that collected personally identifiable information (first and last name, email, phone, etc.) could not legally allow those under 13 to join, failing the obvious fact there is no technical age verification and won't

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Re: youtube alternatives Wonderful. We now live in a world where creators no longer have a say in who their target audience is, and if they try to market in a way that works for them and their content, they could get fined a large sum of money. Ladies and gentleman, the Internet is now

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Re: youtube alternatives I really don't like this and significantly doubt its constitutional. We have human beings who know nothing about modern culture who look at things on the surface and not in depth. It should be up to the content creators ultimate whether something is for kids

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Re: youtube alternatives Sogoing by thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0veLrwd9CK4It's all kinds of WTF. I'm now very, very concerned by the vagueness of it...and the thing people are freaking out about is this. I run a forumn, and I have to be COPPA compliant there, now, I know

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Re: youtube alternatives Um. Question. Why the hell must we put "gate" in *ever* damn scandal name? Yes, the first ultra-major "scandal" was watergate, but that in no way means that "gate" should therefore be in every scandal name thereafter. Come on,

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Re: youtube alternatives AND what of some of the criteria for a video aimed at kids is only part of a larger, othewise non kid friendly video, like with my tts series. Remember when arthur (the US tv series) suddenly became a meme a couple years ago? the bootlegpocolipse is upon us. Also

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Re: youtube alternatives @20, "The secret to success and commercial viability is Baby Shark". Lol -- that's a good one. I really hope that's not true. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/478421/#p478421 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@

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Re: youtube alternatives Youtube creators that have I believe 1 subs get access to Youtube's creation studios in LA for essentially nothing, except it isn't something out of nothing since it's subcidized by ad revenue and other related funds. The main issue isn't precisely the labeling

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Re: youtube alternatives @Ethin: Pretty much standard practice of Web2.0, unless you're an individual hosted site or on the Indieweb which big media quite obviously hates. Intentionally vague terms of service even for those that do have the free time on their hands to read it all the way

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Re: youtube alternatives @Ethin: Pretty much standard practice of Web2.0, unless you're an individual hosted site or on the Indieweb which big media quite obviously hates. Intentionally vague terms of service even for those that do have the free time on their hands to read it all the way

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Re: youtube alternatives this thing sounds utterly rediculous! $42000?well. if that happens to anyone, youtube, my friends; well, either goodbye youtube or goodbye COPPA. Let me just say this: I hope against hope that it is the latter. also bleh, bc i'm already 13 and above URL: https

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Re: youtube alternatives @18, that's typical Youtube for you: make vague and difficult to understand statements and then do whatevr you like and ndicate that your just "removing this person because they're not commercial viable". URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/47826

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Re: youtube alternatives Youtube creators that have I believe 1 subs get access to Youtube's creation studios in LA for essentially nothing, except it isn't something out of nothing since it's subcidized by ad revenue and other related funds. The main issue isn't precisely the labeling

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Re: youtube alternatives thanks, any video sites with bulk uploading? anyway, I'm currently on the following:peertube.dk (community moderated video platform out of denmark) (username:jackmurcer3384)d.tube (videos get be monitised by other users using criptocurrency

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Re: youtube alternatives Just mark it as for adults as long as there are no kids in it you should be fine. You could also use Sound Cloud. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/478156/#p478156 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: youtube alternatives Hi,I think it's the other way around. If you mark something as for kids, but it has swearing and stuff in it, then they could inforce it. Unfortunately, there's been a lot of this lately whereby, even on the YouTube kids app there's been videos with gore

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Re: youtube alternatives Yeah, I just looked into it, and the government is not going to go after you and charge you $42,000 for falsely labeling a video. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/478151/#p478151 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: youtube alternatives I significantly doubt that COPPA is enforceable on a platform like Youtube. Going off of Youtubes track record with automated systems, this will horribly backfire for Youtube like every other "automated system" they tried to design. Doing this across eve

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Re: youtube alternatives another problem is that on my tts series, there is a segment starring a fictional nursery teacher, during which she shows a kids song. may I remind you, the series itself is not targeted at kids. if push comes to shove, I may have to remove her in future episodes

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Re: youtube alternatives https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/rules/r … ction-rule, should explain things. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/478056/#p478056 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

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Re: youtube alternatives It doesn't matter where you upload, the COPPA (which is a good idea on paper) applies to websites as a whole. You can go to FB or wherever, they still got to agree with the COPPA though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/478033/#p478033 -- Audiogames

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Re: youtube alternatives lbry.tv is a Youtube alternative that has appeared in recent years. I haven't played with it much, but it seems to be accessible so far. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/478020/#p478020 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: youtube alternatives I really have to wonder how strictly this sort of thing can actually be enforced. It reminds me a lot of the 6 strikes rule, and other such scaremongering. Of course, when the hammer does end up being brought down, we hear about all the worst case scenarios

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Re: youtube alternatives Then why wouldn't you just say that the video is not for kids for all your content? Harsh, but that would be the easiest solution. The way I read it was that false claims would severely be punished, and post four proves my thoughts. URL: https

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Re: youtube alternatives the problem hear is that the tts preschool album kinda blirs that line, so the coppa is still problematic. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/477846/#p477846 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: youtube alternatives uh... whenever you upload a video, you have to tell youtube if this video is aimed at kids. If it is not and you say that it is, then boom. But otherwise meh.. nothing will happen URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/477844/#p477844 -- Audiogames-reflector

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Re: youtube alternatives the fine is for having kids content in a channel not meant for that market. however you are still sort of punnished for having a kids channel, as comments are disabled (so no constructive critisism is possible), and notifications are also disabled (rendering

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Re: youtube alternatives So, you're charged money to have a channel for kids up? If this is the case, that's absolutely absurd. If it's the other way around, again that is absolutely absurd. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/477829/#p477829 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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youtube alternatives hello!Youtube is going to enforce the COPPA (childrens online privacy and protection act) in a couple months. Users will be forced to mark their channel as being either for kids or not for kids, with channels in the former catagory being crippled to hell and back