Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer You don't separate volumes. You can mod each volume, but everything will be going through to one master track, unless you get creative with REaper. You cannot drive your system output over the wire and record at the same time though, and the recording will be output to one master track in a typical use-case. This means that for recording live, you will definitely need a y-splitter to route your system audio through one of the stereo in's.The volumes are changed via the knobs on the bottom of the board. The mic volume can be adjusted via the smaller gain knobs below the xlr insersions, and the pre-amp knob below that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/498707/#p498707 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer Okay, and each volume can be separated, even if they are coming through the same input? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495884/#p495884 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer Not necessarily, Reaper's for monitoring if you want to do multiple sends. The knobs on the mixer work for that purpose, though you will want to get someone to help you figure out what they are. If you buy one in person at a Guitar Center or other audio gear store, you can probably talk to someone there and ask them what each knob is. Most people get ost in the terminology if they aren't familiar with what stuff means. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495881/#p495881 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer I think I've already asked this, but I think I'm not understanding something, probably from my lack of experience with this sort of thing. So, if i get the q802, I would use reaper to change the volumes of things that were being streamed? For example, if i want to stream an audiogame, with NVDA, and one was too loud coming through the stream, but not for me, I would use reaper? Apologies for ignorance. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495835/#p495835 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer That's something to get used to. Unless it's an instrument, an instrument host like Komplete, or something substantial like Melodyne, expect just a plugin. Also, Behringer Zenix q802's already use Asio drivers anyway, so latency will not be a problem at all. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495771/#p495771 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer I was under the asumption that it would be like melodyne, in that it’s also a program in addition to it being a plug-in. Guess not.I’ll figure it out and reaper URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495765/#p495765 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer Um, because it's a vst. IF you aren't doing music production then Waves Tune Realtime will probably be of little interest to you, but if you are then fire up your daw, and then go rescan for vst plugins. Make sure you have your license key plugged in if you're doing it through a usb drive. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495644/#p495644 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer once I install the plugin witn central, how am I supposed to access it?There is no icon for waves real tune URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495623/#p495623 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer What you would do in Reaper is have projects recording that monitor the different outputs (the game and the microphone, for example). But if you plug your computer into one of the stereo channels, and then have a second soundcard play your screen reader, you can get game-audio and microphone audio, and you don't need to change a thing about it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495316/#p495316 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer The Zenix q802 is cheaper, and has more stereo lines for output. It has 4 pairs of stereo in's. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495315/#p495315 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer So, since I'm just figuring out VAC, and still figuring out reaper, can I have an explanation of how that would work? I have the habit of breaking things, so figured the go Xlr mini would be easier, and probably safer, but if i can do the same thing for cheaper, I'm willing to. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495270/#p495270 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer Re, Espresso: Now that makes me a lot more confident about selling the Zenix 502/exchanging it for the q802. For a while I thought the fact that the bottom half of one of my 1/4 to 1/8 adapters crumbled and fell inside the mixer would diminish its quality. But if you spilled espresso into yours and yours still works, mine should be totally fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495268/#p495268 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer Besides, if an asio mixer actually costs that much because asio then we've got problems, lol. Software drivers for Asio exist, download the trial of FL Studio and make sure that you set it to install its Asio driver, and you could probably get asio benefits through use of your mixer.Before someone says Asio4all yes, I know, that does exists and is obviously a lighter package, but FL Studio's asio driver does audio handling better, e.g. more of the real deal as it were and it doesn't handle it like a free package would. FL Studio's demo never expires, and even though the d a w itself is not accessible, the asio driver can be used in other d a w's. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495263/#p495263 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer @Jack put up the Smoke signal and I came.The q802 has been the mixer I use for all audio recording and streaming on BSG.It has two XLR inputs with optional 48V phantom, and two sets of stereo inputs with channel strips. Each channel strip has a 3 band EQ, gain, and balance. The XLR strips have pre amp and compression as well.It has a real time monitor, analog out and also USB connection. The USB can only be used for one way traffic though, either in or out. There's a bunch of stuff happening on the right side of the board too with RCA connections but I've never used that. I also spilled an entire cup of espresso inside of the mixer during a drunken moment watching UFC, but it's been working for over a year post espresso. There's more stuff the mixer can do, but it isn't anything I have needed to use so I never explored it more, that and the espresso bit above.The stereo ins can be used for your Alexa, phone, whatever, you just need a break out cable(s) for the 1/8 stereo jacks. It is important to realize when they say something like 8 channel input, that actually means 4 stereo inputs. so don't expect all the inputs, divide it by two first.I don't get the issue people have with others hearing everything on your PC, if that is the case then don't send everything on your PC to the mixer, that is simple to do, and built into windows 10. Better yet use VAC and reaper projects to monitor different sources in real time and send them out to different outputs. I was going to buy an ASIO mixer for streams, but then realized I could spend no additional money and just use reaper, that's how I do a voices only stream.I get everything I need out of my Q802, but I also get creative with reaper to make it do what I need it to. That being said, ASIO really is probably the way to go, but you don't have to spend $500 on a mixer unless you are already a paid professional...at least personally I wouldn't pay that for a mixer. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495259/#p495259 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer The q802 does have a usb interface built in, and I believe has multiple ins and outs but I have to clarify this, especially considering I am actually in the middle of mixer buying decisions now anyhow. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495245/#p495245 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer I'm fairly sure the Xenix 502 can't do this. I should know because I was using one for just about 8 years and is what I upgraded from because it wasn't flexible enough for my use case. I was able to get my microphone and system audio mixed and sent to the main input, but for a streaming situation this ment that everyone I was streaming for was hearing themselves. Granted, the 502 is purely analog and had only 1 master input and output needing a seperate interface to get it to a computer, while the Q802 has a built-in uSB interface, but I'm not sure how good that is. If it only exposes a single input and output over USB and relies on the Analog inputs for you to do your mixing, it won't do what you want, but if you get at least 2 inputs and more outputs then it might work.Regarding the GoXLR, this is also why I mentioned the mini which only costs $150 here. It doesn't have the fancy effects but you still get the mic processing and all the USB channels and I think for many people it's more than enough and priced comparably to similar devices. For making the configuration take effect which you asked about a few posts up, you just have to restart the software. Whenever it starts up it reloads the configuration. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495239/#p495239 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer Oh, cool. I'll look more into it then. I had seen it in reviews, but it wasn't well liked. If its usable though, and does what I'm looking for, I'll definitely look more into it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495236/#p495236 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer @Gamesmaster: That was Waves Central 10, and you are absolutely correct that it was unusable 6 months ago. The Waves Central 11 update came out, I wanna say about 3 months ago, and is totally accessible.@9: Yes, the Zenix 502 has all that, pretty much everything except effects which you don't need if you have a software rack. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495230/#p495230 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer @5Last time I tried to use waves central 11 about 6 months ago, it was completely unusable. Will try it out again URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495220/#p495220 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer @4 Last time I tried to use waves central 11 about 6 months ago, it was completely unusable. Will try it out again URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495220/#p495220 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer @5.Does the Zenix q802 have the multiple inputs and outputs thing? Let's see if i can explain. with the go xlr, you can set different levels for music, chat, system, and things like that. That's a pretty big thing for me, and mostly why I'm considering it or the mini. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495189/#p495189 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
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Re: Looking for a mixer @7 Yamaha hs7 studio monitors. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/495063/#p495063 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer @6 What do you use for speakers? Just curious... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/494996/#p494996 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Looking for a mixer @4 I also have a Yamaha MG10xu and physical knobs and buttons are really hard to beat. I don't plan to replace it anytime soon, because right now it is enough for my quite modest needs. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/494991/#p494991 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer Whoa. Sounds great, but that thing is about $500. You could get a Zenix q802 with an Audio Technica or Shure mic and be fine, though if you wanted effects you would need a software fx rack, I'd personally look to Waves if I were you. Considering that Waves Central is now very accessible, I can actually recommend a lot of their plugins. Their hardware modeling is 100% authentic, so it isn't going to sound subpar just because it's software. Quite the opposite in fact. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/494985/#p494985 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer Wow, nice topic. I'm gonna need to replace my Yamaha MG XU at some point, so I'm glad other good options still exist. I still love the xu if only because all of it is physical buttons and knobs and it's psychotically easy to set up. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/494984/#p494984 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. For some reason though, I didn't even think about using the google assistant on my phone. So, for the XML files, probably an obvious question, but, if they are edited, do you then need to do anything in the software for them to take effect? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/494967/#p494967 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Looking for a mixer
Re: Looking for a mixer I bought a GoXLR 2 weeks ago after Talon got one a few months back, because he seemd to like and recommend it. I wanted to write a review about it with an emphasis on accessibility, and I'll still do this to give people detailed information about it and expand on what I'm about to say. But in short, for the person that it was aimed for, it's an excellent device. What I mean by that is the GoXLR is designed for people streaming games on Twitch or YouTube from a computer. So instead of having a ton of physical inputs, either as RCA or 6.3 MM jacks, you get just a single line-in apart from your microphone which can be either XLR or 3.5 MM.However, on-top of these, you get 5 channels over USB which are all exposed as separate audio devices in Windows that you can direct sound to, as well as 2 input devices. These are also available as ASIO if used in a DAW like Reaper. You can root the audio from these channels in any way you wish and assign the 4 faders to any of the channels or your microphone gain to quickly adjust their volume.For your Microphone, the GoXLR has a built-in EQ, compressor, Deesser and noise gate which can help you sound better without buying additional hardware or making you have to run your audeio through software effects. There are 2 models, the regular GoXLR as well as the recently released goXLRMini, the main difference being in addition to everything described, the regular model also has an additional effects processor that can do pitch shifting, reverb, distortion and auto-tune and a sampler which lets you play and record samples quickly using 4 large pads.Software wise, the device itself is all physical buttons and faders. You need the software and drivers, which are Windows only, to use it. This is where you run into the one major annoyance. The GoXLR app was written using the juice UI toolkit, which is famous for being completely inaccessible and whose developers have made a concious effort in not caring about improving the situation. That being said, TC-helicon gaming were extremely helpful here. When Talon bought his GoXLR and discovered the problems and reached out to them on Twitter, they hooked him up with the main software developer. Hopefully, we will see accessibility improvements in the software in the future as from what I know they are investigating things like Tolk to work around the UI problem. In the meantime though, said developer helped us out with figuring out a way to use it.All of the configuration for the GoXLR is stored as plain text in XML files, which can just be edited in any text editor like notepad. This way you can enter in pretty much everything you need (Adjust the compressor, Gate and EQ, set volumes, change audio routing, put the 4 faders in different channels, etc). So even though the software itself isn't accessible, you can still adjust your settings and the workaround of manually editing XML files isn't as bad as some of the software used by other audio interfaces where there's sometimes literarly nothing you can do or use autohotkey scripts that click on mouse coordinates which could break if a window is moved in the wrong place.For your particular use case, you can definitely hook up an echo to the GoXLR via the line-in. For Google, it might be more of a problem because none of the Google home speakers have an audio output on them. So I don't think there's any mixer that would be able to support a Google home, unless you get something like an Android phone with a headphone jack and use that as a fake google home speaker. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/494959/#p494959 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
