[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: sound stage width

2006-12-29 Thread Phil Leigh
Behringer made a 1U rack box called the Edison that let you manipulate width and depth - it was fun...with practice you could whirl a track (within a mix) around the listener -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: FLAC signal levels

2006-12-29 Thread Phil Leigh
This might be stupid question of the week - but does replaygain work with the digital output or just the analogue? -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: FLAC signal levels

2006-12-29 Thread adamslim
What could be interesting is seeing if ReplayGain can actually *improve* the sound. A (poorly-mastered?) CD might not get up to 100% of level. Applying (positive) ReplayGain in the digital domain might improve DAC SNR, even if there is no more information. Of course, you would need to be using

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Grado sr60, sr80 or something else

2006-12-29 Thread jeffluckett
sc53;165519 Wrote: Jeff, if you want to ruin your life (and wallet) check into www.head-fi.org and read about all the options, tweaks, upgrades, and other insanity you can get into if you find you are enjoying your SR-80's. Believe me, your journey has just begun! Lalalalallaa I can't hear

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: FLAC signal levels

2006-12-29 Thread tyler_durden
adamslim;165572 Wrote: What could be interesting is seeing if ReplayGain can actually *improve* the sound. A (poorly-mastered?) CD might not get up to 100% of level. Applying (positive) ReplayGain in the digital domain might improve DAC SNR, even if there is no more information. Of

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The origin of the urge to modify everything

2006-12-29 Thread tyler_durden
I have noticed that there are a lot of people out there who seem to have a belief that they can improve the performance of almost anything by modifying its original design. Do those folks also modify their cars, refrigerators, microwave ovens, printers, cameras, calculators, and etc., or does

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything

2006-12-29 Thread karma mechanic
It certainly applies to cars, but not as far as I know to refrigerators and so on. Perhaps the devices that have 'static' performance are left alone simply because they work and there is no perceived or noticeable benefit to upgrading. Cars and hi-fi have a more 'dynamic' performance envelope,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything

2006-12-29 Thread Skunk
Yes it's a social phenomenon for sure, haven't you seen the site hackaday.com? They once showed how to modify a Billy Big Mouth Bass in order to run linux and have custom greetings. Getting to your main point; Take the Sonic Impact implementation of a Tripath chip for example. The Sonic Impact

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The origin of the urge to modify everything

2006-12-29 Thread Pat Farrell
tyler_durden wrote: I have noticed that there are a lot of people out there who seem to have a belief that they can improve the performance of almost anything by modifying its original design. Do those folks also modify their cars, refrigerators, microwave ovens, printers, cameras,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: FLAC signal levels

2006-12-29 Thread Phil Leigh
OK I'm going to try Robins apply_replaygain thingy to see what happens. Do I need change the digital output is fixed setting? Thanks Phil -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The origin of the urge to modify everything

2006-12-29 Thread jan van mourik
My Yamaha FZ1 has been modded with an Ivan's jet kit and a Holeshot exhaust. That netted about 10 bhp. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything

2006-12-29 Thread snarlydwarf
Skunk;165593 Wrote: Yes it's a social phenomenon for sure, haven't you seen the site hackaday.com? They once showed how to modify a Billy Big Mouth Bass in order to run linux and have custom greetings. My fave of the week is the guy who modified his Roomba so that he could control it with

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC

2006-12-29 Thread Triggaaar
Patrick Dixon;165314 Wrote: The normal approach with a 16 bit original represented as a 24 bit signal, would be to make the bottom 8 bits 0s - so using the volume control, some of those bits may be turned in 1s, but no 1s will ever be required lower than the 24th bit. If you then throw away

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: FLAC signal levels

2006-12-29 Thread slimkid
How would positive gain work in SS/SB3 combination where the attenuation is at 0 (no attenuation) and the volume is 100 (max)? -- slimkid slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Are there any PRat's out there?

2006-12-29 Thread The Smokester
wdrazek, I am running my SB3 wirelessly (encrypted 802.11g) and feeding the digital Toslink optical output into a Waida DAC. The sound is superb. Rplert's description of the analog outputs of the SB3 match my experience as well. Good for sleeping music but not suited for critical listening.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: FLAC signal levels

2006-12-29 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote: There is a problem with ANY kind of digital normalisation, in that unless it is a pretty dumb auto-gain control it may introduce compression - otherwise a quiet track might be boosted so much that the loudest parts clip. I agree that normalization is generally dumb, but it

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] simple but high quality

2006-12-29 Thread gychang
First I apologize for putting the question here, perhaps should be in beginner's forum. I want a simple but high quality 2 channel music only setup. I already have DIY hiqh quality speakers (full range, can be driven with minimal power, see pic, I will get rid of the receiver in pic) and will

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The origin of the urge to modify everything

2006-12-29 Thread adamslim
snarlydwarf;165624 Wrote: My fave of the week is the guy who modified his Roomba so that he could control it with his Wii Remote. So, for the price of a Roomba, a PC to control it and a Wii, you get a vacuum you can move around by making wild motions with your hands. Why not just use a

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 10awg or 12awg dedicated line?

2006-12-29 Thread tomjtx
slimkid;165635 Wrote: and, while you're there, ask the resort crew to run ski lift power through it for a while. Just to be on the safe side. It might broaden the soundstage to match the mountain view I just did that at Angel Fire. The lift operator was skeptical but the lift worked faster

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: sound stage width

2006-12-29 Thread tyler_durden
Here's some good stuff on 3D sound fields. There is some good stuff on loudspeaker crosstalk cancellation. http://www.jvrb.org/3.2006/589 TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best Ethernet Cable

2006-12-29 Thread mselbie
I love the SB3 but have had enough of it being a wireless device, its just too unpredictable as to whether you get dropouts or not, and I have spent way too much time trying to get it right, so am moving to cable. Have spendor S3 speakers and Linn Kolekto K140 pre and power amp and listen to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best Ethernet Cable

2006-12-29 Thread Pat Farrell
mselbie wrote: I love the SB3 but have had enough of it being a wireless device, its just too unpredictable as to whether you get dropouts or not, and I have spent way too much time trying to get it right, so am moving to cable. Have spendor S3 speakers and Linn Kolekto K140 pre and power amp

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Ethernet Cable

2006-12-29 Thread thingfish
Any regular ethernet cable will do. There is no High End cable similar to the hifi ones. Just any cheapo cable will do just fine. Tcp/ip will take care of any transmission problems anyway. Not sure what you mean with reviews though ... reviews on cat5 cables ? * EDIT ** Im too late.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 10awg or 12awg dedicated line?

2006-12-29 Thread adamslim
tomjtx;165679 Wrote: Does someone want to AB the differences between Aspen, Breckinridge and other sites so we can determine the best resort to freeze our cables? I am sure each site will sound different. If I can find a magazine to pay for this important research, I feel I could offer my

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: simple but high quality

2006-12-29 Thread Recoveryone
I have a simuliar question, I have ordered the SB3 and I am interest in the difference in the analog outputs vs the optical one. I have a Pioneer elite VSX-81TX that has the ability to re-assemble WMA9 coded music, but it needs to be optically connect. Not all of my music is in this format

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 10awg or 12awg dedicated line?

2006-12-29 Thread slimkid
tomjtx;165679 Wrote: Does someone want to AB the differences between Aspen, Breckinridge and other sites so we can determine the best resort to freeze our cables? I am sure each site will sound different. when I already though I heard all that is there to hear about this in audiophile

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 10awg or 12awg dedicated line?

2006-12-29 Thread tomjtx
slimkid;165706 Wrote: when I already though I heard all that is there to hear about this in audiophile community, I found something to this extent in our video counterpart groups, and guess what. With propper, or special power cords put on your plasma or LCD TV, blue gets 'bluer' and the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Ethernet Cable

2006-12-29 Thread MeridianMan
thingfish;165697 Wrote: Any regular ethernet cable will do. There is no High End cable similar to the hifi ones. Ah...sounds like a great business opportunity. Anyone interested in cryo'ed, super conducting Cat5e cables? There's an extra fee for the custom ones which have been teated

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 10awg or 12awg dedicated line?

2006-12-29 Thread adamslim
tomjtx;165707 Wrote: with ski resort treated cables I bet the white gets whiter No, that's Daz, silly -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: simple but high quality

2006-12-29 Thread Skunk
gychang;165671 Wrote: I won't need a preamp or integrated amp for my needs right? (I won't use it with TV)? That's not quite correct, unless you plan to modify the gain of the t-amp internally you'll need the analog attenuation. Use a higher quality pot if you're re-boxing, and adjust

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 10awg or 12awg dedicated line?

2006-12-29 Thread empty99
lafayette;165515 Wrote: I have several Living Stereo recordings. Alas, they are on vinyl and I no longer have a record player. One more reason to buy more CDs... Thanks! Fear not, these recordings are now on SACD/CD Hybrids, and they are bargain priced ($11 in stores and $5.99 on

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: simple but high quality

2006-12-29 Thread Skunk
Recoveryone;165702 Wrote: I have a simuliar question, I have ordered the SB3 and I am interest in the difference in the analog outputs vs the optical one. I have a Pioneer elite VSX-81TX that has the ability to re-assemble WMA9 coded music, but it needs to be optically connect. Not all of

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There are many questions about the use of preamps...

2006-12-29 Thread NewBuyer
So using tubes in playback, will not restore some original harmonics that were cut, due to limited bandwidth processing in the recording process? -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: simple but high quality

2006-12-29 Thread Recoveryone
thanks for the info, and will go with the digital out. I was reading some of the other post about which computer setup (power) is best as a server. Upstairs: I have a P4 2.8 gighz with 2gig of ram and 2 80gigHD connected to my network via wireless card Downstairs: P3 800mhz with 1gig of ram 2

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] On the topic of modifications: Reception for the Squeezebox 3

2006-12-29 Thread lafayette
I've read several (unfortunate) threads on the topic of modifications. I'll keep my opinion to myself. I will say that I am thrifty but I also recognize the ability to add value to a product through better engineering. The example of the motocycle parts is a good one. Of course, there are

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: On the topic of modifications: Reception for the Squeezebox 3

2006-12-29 Thread lafayette
Naive question: would just tossing another router somewhere in the house (between first router and second, namely, the one closer to the system) increase signal strength? I'm not a computer person, guys, so take it easy... -- lafayette Sweet Home Alabama

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: On the topic of modifications: Reception for the Squeezebox 3

2006-12-29 Thread snarlydwarf
Nope, it would just create chaos. It would be neat if there was an affordable repeater device that would listen on, say, Channel 11, and repeat on 1... which would give you better range. (There are such devices, actually, but they are spendy.) A different antenna on the router can make a huge

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: On the topic of modifications: Reception for the Squeezebox 3

2006-12-29 Thread totoro
lafayette;165779 Wrote: Naive question: would just tossing another router somewhere in the house (between first router and second, namely, the one closer to the system) increase signal strength? I'm not a computer person, guys, so take it easy... You could look into something like this:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Are there any PRat's out there?

2006-12-29 Thread rplert
Oooh!! I bet that does sound good with a Wadia DAC. Isn't it great you can spend so little on a good transport and then spend the money on a top tier DAC? It really is a good time to be an audiophile (as told to me by Wes Phillips at a recent event here in Tacoma, WA.) -- rplert Randy Lert

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: On the topic of modifications: Reception for the Squeezebox 3

2006-12-29 Thread lafayette
Brilliant, thanks! -- lafayette Sweet Home Alabama lafayette's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9022 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31093

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Are there any PRat's out there?

2006-12-29 Thread sonofcolin
wdrazek: I use NAIM 82/SC/250 with SB3 and Harbeth C7ES-2. I have the larger ELPAC PS (bolder modified) for the SB3 and an Ack dAck! 2 (ultra rez) for DAC duties. Sounds pretty good to me. The SB3/ dAck! replaced a CDX/XPS (I kept my TT!). The SB3 is about to be digitally modified by Bolder.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Ethernet Cable

2006-12-29 Thread mselbie
Have now ordered cable and will start pulling up the carpet tomorrow thanks for your help -- mselbie mselbie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3259 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter setup with Bryston - Balanced levels

2006-12-29 Thread Eric Carroll
Hi, I am in progress of replacing my classic component Rotel stereo system (old, many problems with it) and replacing it with the following components: - Paradigm Reference Studio 60 V.4 - Bryston 3B SST power amp (2 channel, 150Wpc) - Transporter My home theater system is completely seperate

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Ethernet Cable

2006-12-29 Thread SuperQ
Pat Farrell;165696 Wrote: I think there is some CAT6 cable, but for mortals, that is overkill. Yes, Cat6 is overkill for home use. Cat6 is only really needed for long lengths of gige. Cat5e is good enough for short ( 50') gige. -- SuperQ

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: On the topic of modifications: Reception for the Squeezebox 3

2006-12-29 Thread SuperQ
lafayette;165772 Wrote: Anyway, I haven't read about a modification to increase reception. The Transporter has two external anttenae. The Squeezebox has, presumably, one internal antenna. Would it take much to add an externa antenna of some sort? I can't imagine it would cost much.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There are many questions about the use of preamps...

2006-12-29 Thread Phil Leigh
NewBuyer;165751 Wrote: So using tubes in playback, will not restore some original harmonics that were cut, due to limited bandwidth processing in the recording process? IMHO absolutely not. They may generate spurious harmonics if overdriven, but these are not related to any musical

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: FLAC signal levels

2006-12-29 Thread Phil Leigh
Thanks Pat - that's clear. I realised it would have to read ahead to find the max level value and then boost the track by whatever the available headroom was (along with the noise floor!). I've used that kind of normalisation before in Sonar - on individual tracks in a mix. What I often found was