Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?

2008-01-13 Thread GuyDebord
NewBuyer;257820 Wrote: GuyDebord you certainly can still enjoy a great soundcard - especially a 2-channel one - without setting up a pro studio! :) The sound quality of this particular Lynx card is phenomenal, and so far I'm finding it to work very well with an SB3. NewBuyer, I dont

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?

2008-01-13 Thread NewBuyer
GuyDebord;257896 Wrote: ...for any studio, the soundcard is just a piece of the system... Typical computer power supplies are not really made for audio reproduction nor any of its internal components... professional studios that I know utilize OUTBOARD clocks, buffers, regulators and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread Phil Leigh
zanash;257908 Wrote: An interesting aside to generate a perception of depth and height ..get the chesky test disc http://www.chesky.com/core/details.cfm?productcode=JD037productcategoryid=1 track 11 this simulates both up and down and depthvia a chirping sound this has

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 DAC vs. Meridian DSP's speakers

2008-01-13 Thread Mnyb
If you don't use the analog out it's is quite obvius. if unsure remove the analog cables ;-) DAC is an acronym for Digital to Analog Converter. Conseqently only used when there is a need to make an analog signal. Our DSP700 has only digital inputs, your signal chains is going to be as digital as

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?

2008-01-13 Thread Phil Leigh
NewBuyer, Are you using the L22 as a DAC? If so, given that the L22 has word clock, you should clock-sync the TP to the L22 so that the L22 is the master clock and is controlling the TP. You should try this asap witht he included L22sync cable! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?

2008-01-13 Thread GuyDebord
NewBuyer;257912 Wrote: It seems you are saying (I'm simplifying) that an audio source good enough to be a vital link in a more complex professional studio music production system, couldn't also be just as excellent in a simpler home stereo music reproduction system. Which doesn't make

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread sleepysurf
I use that particular track extensively, whenever tweaking my speaker placement. It sounds like it's a handheld air puffer being recorded. They run it three times- left and right channel up, left to right arc (and back), and left to right lateral (and back). I never heard it properly until I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What about New Benchmark DAC1 PRE(preamp)

2008-01-13 Thread gregeas
I'm still not sure if it has IR control. If it doesn't, I don't think it makes much sense as a pre-amp (in a home system). I've been using my Transporter to convert and switch audio signals from my cable box and game consoles, and it does a fairly nice job. The problems are that sources can't

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MP3 bug/scratc finder tool, where to find?

2008-01-13 Thread Mnyb
Download the music from another source, it's probably faster than going trough hell and highwater to restore them. Library CD's my a** i tried 10 yers ago, they are usually so scratched that they are barely regognizeable as CD's, you are lucky if they are still round and not cracked. This is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?

2008-01-13 Thread NewBuyer
Phil, thanks for the tip! Should be fun to try. Do you think it would exceed that of using the L22 onboard clock and SRC? GuyDebord, I do understand your doubts and your trusts, and I also completely respect your opinion and position. I still hope you will have a real chance to try the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?

2008-01-13 Thread Phil Leigh
NewBuyer;257965 Wrote: Phil, thanks for the tip! Should be fun to try. Do you think it would exceed that of using the L22 onboard clock and SRC? GuyDebord, I do understand your doubts and your trusts, and I also completely respect your opinion and position. Thank you for sharing your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread Phil Leigh
Thanks - interesting article. Seems the LEDR uses psycho-acoustic trickery (aka convolving reverb) to fool the brain. This wouldn't work for anything much more complex than a single sound source being moved in this fashion. I'll pick up the Chesky disk and give it a spin... -- Phil Leigh You

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread GuyDebord
Do any of you know if there is a downloadable version available? thanks -- GuyDebord Reference 3A Royal Master monitors biwired with van den Hul Inspiration, REL Strata 5 sub. AMP: Pathos Classic One MKIII. ANALOGUE: Michell Gyro SE, Technoarm Lyra Helikon SL cartridge, ASR Mini Basis SQ

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread zanash
It doesn't real say on liner notes just calls it LEDR Listening Environment Diagnostic Recording I found this http://www.stereophile.com/features/772/ using the up test I get a slight flat top but a smooth curve up and down o both sides using my ML Aerius i's -- zanash Acoustician and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread Phil Leigh
Please don't misunderstand me - I know how to simulate depth through phase/eq manipulation in the studio...but it is just a simulation or psycho-acoustic trick, it's not real. Seems the LEDR track also manages to do this with height which is clever. It's when people talk about realistic

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread sleepysurf
zanash;257985 Wrote: ...using the up test I get a slight flat top but a smooth curve up and down o both sides using my ML Aerius i's Ha! I had Aerius i's, before moving up to the Summits! As for LEDR height, try adusting the speaker tilt. Here's an old post (from the ML Owners Club)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread Timothy Stockman
The track Rain from the Suzanne Ciani disc Hotel Luna has some fairly interesting stereo effects with the synth-generated raindrops. I think the key to hearing it the way it was intended is to have good phase linearity in your speakers. -- Timothy Stockman

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread Phil Leigh
The Prosonus uses a spatial reverberator to create the effect. In 1989 this took a mainframe - can now be done by pretty much any modern DSP chip. It's completely manmade! What it is doing is to mimic the way our ears work to locate sounds in 3-d and then basically invert the process, causing our

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread sleepysurf
Here's a link to that Chesky CD. Unfortunately, they don't have an mp3 or FLAC downloadable version, but the CD is still available. http://www.chesky.com/core/details.cfm?productcode=JD037category=1 One caveat though, folks ordering from Chesky direct have reported lots of problems with

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet Squeezebox Controller.

2008-01-13 Thread bad . wolf
Has any one seen or got any views on the Squeezebox Duet Squeezebox Controller. Talking of the new fancy Controller, does anyone know if it will work with the SB3? Wouldn’t mind getting it if it did. Wolfie01902 -- bad.wolf

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet Squeezebox Controller.

2008-01-13 Thread cliveb
bad.wolf;258041 Wrote: Has any one seen or got any views on the Squeezebox Duet Squeezebox Controller. Talking of the new fancy Controller, does anyone know if it will work with the SB3? Wouldn’t mind getting it if it did. You obviously only ever visit this particular forum. Take a look at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter - streaming versus spdif input in Transporter

2008-01-13 Thread Phil Leigh
There is NO jitter caused or increased by the network... cue Sean -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter - streaming versus spdif input in Transporter

2008-01-13 Thread GuyDebord
Sean, please correct me if Im wrong, but Im pretty sure that network streaming is not subject to jitter since the streaming is done by sectors and not by direct bit transmission as with red book cd players. So network streaming should be better. However, Im not sure at what phase can jitter

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread alekz
sleepysurf;258033 Wrote: I suggest using a more reliable source. ... eMule ;-) -- alekz alekz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13574 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter - streaming versus spdif input in Transporter

2008-01-13 Thread seanadams
Jitter is lowest for streaming (17ps), and higher for s/pdif (50+ ps depending on the source). S/PDIF is a unidrectional connection which transmits clock and data together, which is why the clock is subject to degradation. In contrast, the network is _only_ a data connection. The clock is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread Timothy Stockman
Phil Leigh;258016 Wrote: Please don't misunderstand me - I know how to simulate depth through phase/eq manipulation in the studio...but it is just a simulation or psycho-acoustic trick, it's not real. If fact, stereo itself is an auditory illusion, whether it's recorded by microphones or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter - streaming versus spdif input in Transporter

2008-01-13 Thread mr_bill
Thanks for the answer Sean. Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42183

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi News article on Hearing

2008-01-13 Thread Phil Leigh
Timothy - I've written about the stereo illusion in the past - and been flamed for it! Where can one find the Ciani recordings? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Classical/Early Music URLs

2008-01-13 Thread Ralph 411
Here are links to favorite internet radio stations that feature higher-bit-rate streams and classical music, with emphasis on early music. N.B., the links were working at the time of this post. URLs can and do change without notice! Additional suggestions welcome. LocationURL Austin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There's More There There!

2008-01-13 Thread Ralph 411
Dear Friends, Each modification I outlined has been tried and retained for only one reason: it sounds better! Some would say many things we take for granted in high-end audio don't work, can't work, or may even be harmful (for example, interconnect, power cords, and isolation). In the last

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There's More There There!

2008-01-13 Thread seanadams
Ralph 411;258142 Wrote: Dear Friends, Each modification I outlined has been tried and retained for only one reason: *I am imagining* it sounds better! Some would say many things we take for granted in high-end audio don't work, can't work, or may even be harmful (for example,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There's More There There!

2008-01-13 Thread wr420
seanadams;258150 Wrote: There you go... fixed that for ya. :) Can I get an Amen?! -- wr420 wr420's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1040 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?

2008-01-13 Thread selfdivider
GuyDebord;257896 Wrote: This wouldnt be much of an issue if the D/A conversion and clocking was done outboard, but if you only use a regular computer and soundcard combo (as you plan to), all the critical phases of digital conversion will be affected by the poor (in audio terms) assemblage

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There's More There There!

2008-01-13 Thread funkstar
wr420;258180 Wrote: Can I get an Amen?! Amen!! :D -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42094

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There's More There There!

2008-01-13 Thread Eric Seaberg
Preach it, Preacha!! -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What about New Benchmark DAC1 PRE(preamp)

2008-01-13 Thread eiret
I'm still not sure if it has IR control. If it doesn't, I don't think it makes much sense as a pre-amp (in a home system). I agree. In a livingroom no remote control is a design miss. -- eiret eiret's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There's More There There!

2008-01-13 Thread haunyack
Eric Seaberg;258216 Wrote: Preach it, Preacha!! Is it time to speak in tongues yet? The valves do have some remoteness. The immediacy and presence The highs are a bit sweeter The lows are incredibly lush and defined The midrange has lost most of its focus Hateful tizzyness in the top

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some questions onTransporter Digital Output

2008-01-13 Thread coupon
Hi all, I am wondering if the transporter is capable of sending out digital signal via the Coaxial BNC output at the same time? Is there any differents between the two output format? -- coupon coupon's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some questions onTransporter Digital Output

2008-01-13 Thread seanadams
coupon;258246 Wrote: Hi all, I am wondering if the transporter is capable of sending out digital signal via the Coaxial BNC output at the same time? Is there any differents between the two output format? All are active simultaneously, and all output the same data. If you want AES/EBU

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some questions onTransporter Digital Output

2008-01-13 Thread coupon
seanadams;258253 Wrote: All are active simultaneously, and all output the same data. If you want AES/EBU singnalling you can select it in the web interface under player settings. Thanks Sean, Which mean I can feed two DAC with the Transporter that give out exactly the same thing using

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Classical/Early Music URLs

2008-01-13 Thread muski
Thanks, a nice list. I have become a big fan of the AAC Plus streams for classical music. You'll need to install the mplayer plug-in (just follow the excellent instructions in the wiki carefully). In general, I find that AAC Plus streams sound better than MP3 streams that have even twice the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What about New Benchmark DAC1 PRE(preamp)

2008-01-13 Thread slimkid
Besides a remote, it's not clear whether audio outputs are fixed or variable. What about balanced outputs, fixed or variable? Can analog audio input be passed out through balanced outputs? Lots of unknowns that might decide if it makes a cut for a preamp. However, if somebody finds this concept