Or have missed some finer point on how the benchmark works ?
While at it why not look at the whole gain structure. DAC2 is driving
active speakers? A power amp ?
If the sensitivity is adjustable at that end I would make it so the 100%
on DAC2 would represent maximum enjoyable loudness with the
If we are talking two digital volume controls Ill bet the benchmark is
the better implementation and if it has headroom just use one volume
control.
I have an older Meridian pre/pro wo suspect of not having any headroom
for intersample overs , so I upsample and attenuate -3.5 dB in
Squeezelite
Dont know about the cromecast spec in this kind of use .
But its not really a good idea to transcode from one lossy codec
to another lossy codec , weird things can happen.
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Wombat wrote:
> The MQA vermin spreads like it was predicted...
> The Stylish have found the first music at qobuz of crippled 16/44.1
> material not labeled as such.
> https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/55491-qobuz-streaming-mqa-cds/?page=4=comments#comment-923250
> Answer by the label
yes spotty fits me . I often use spotify on the go when at work add some
new stuff, go home and listens to it via spotty.
Then purchase the really good stuff for real and the ok stuff reains as
albums in spotify .
Really great for exploration of new stuff
Hi
Spotty has a couple of relevant settings that may impact the experience
you can choose up to 320kbps OGG as bitrate/compression this is very
good considering that ogg may be better than mp3.
It is also possible to turn volume normalisation on/off per player ,this
can impact the perceived
Transporter can have issues with some 24/96 flac with high compression
ratio .
Try to transcode it to flac with -5 compression ratio ( yes you can
losslesly transcode flac to flac ) .
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Thats the sub under the lamp .
I dont have stereo subs , my room layout is such thats basically the
only place it can be in.
So it had to be one good and quite capable sub for me.
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kidstypike wrote:
> Mnyb, I rotated them for you :)
>
> 25689
>
> 25690
>
> 25691
:) :) thanks
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200
Sorry for the sideways pics its a handicap you have when posting from
an iPhone
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Time to come to the conclusion i actually bit the bullet and importen
one Rythmik FV15HP in piano black gloss finish :)
What to say it actually works ! And integrated seamlessly with my hifi !
That can not be said of the wast majority off subwoofers out there
The plethora of settings usable
Well :) this is all fun , but if you really want to make fun of an
audiophool product there are far worse out there .
Except for the price this NAD product is quite normal
10-30 k$ dacs that performs worse than a 400$ DVD player from China for
example that is ofcourse adored by the high end
Well its NAD so i pobably actually just overengineered and overpriced
as it is a part of their best series.
No blatant cargocult engineering as tubes and nos dac and papper and oil
capacitors and other exoctica.
Not badly engineered but why choose this price point ? How many can they
sell then ?
There are settings in picore player (squeezelite) , then it reports it's
capacity to LMS
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel
The original 230v SB3 supply was ifyllda qualitywise , but later modells
of SB3 with logitech branding got a similar supply to the Touch . So get
the same supply as a squeezebox Touch ?
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The bassmanagment in my Meridian processor lets me direct the lowbas
from all the other speakers to the sub out.
So it not only LFE its index a real xover and the main channels do not
need to play the lowest bas at all.
Main
All my music goes trough my digital souround processor/digital preamp
and i have sub out(s) and crossover and bassmanagment there. And room
corection.
So in my use case the sub does not need to have xover for the other
speakers thats handled by the processor .
And REL speakerlevel conection does
Yes i also looked at Elac and Dynaudio and monitor audio who has very
flexible setup options.
And B can be had in the city where i live , so i could go and have a
look
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Arny was not at this fora for a very long time , but imo he was very
welcome.
So i did not know him well .
We need more proponents of critical Thinking not less rip.
I have tried the search a bit of his history, sadly you only get the bad
stuff from unchecked foras that did not treat hom well.
Yes the best MM transducers ( I owned som Grados to ) is probably the
best trackers. Like,the Ortofon OM40 .
And not to mention the matching with ones tone arm ? Any results is
possible ?
And fine tuning the impedance of the phono preamp , Ive had an
electrocompagniet mc pre with whole bunch
Enjoy :) i actually never heard an AT cartridge , for some reason they
never where that common among my friends and the dealers i visited back
then.
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Yes most subs with closed box design are EQ'd to produce 20Hz . thats
the only practical way else the TS parameters and size of the driver and
cone mass gets absurd and it will not perform well at the upper
frequncies .
And B do still uses the force cancelling idea with dual oposed woofers
in
Mnyb wrote:
> Yes the SB-4000 is on the shortlist . I do wonder if it's musical enough
> ?
Among others like the rhytmik F15HP .
And i also consider Arendal 1723 subwoofer 2 .
And many more , this is going to take months :D and possibly i'll fix my
old sub .
Or it's the analog out on
jfo wrote:
> Have you looked at SVS? I have two in my listening room/theatre. Very
> happy with their quality and performance. There are lot's of reviews
> available and they have dealers in Stockholm and Gothenburg.
Yes the SB-4000 is on the shortlist . I do wonder if it's musical enough
?
Yes the sub is often the most abused part in the system without many
realising it .
So headroom is good they distort a lot too when driven to hard .
My small Meridian 5200 is not the loudest thing you can buy , but even
then they do at least >105dB ish ?
And there are 3 of them with the front
The BK monoliths looks very similar to the REL Ive already have at 1/2
the price 14 years later .
I will also consider dual subs , this is said to give smoother in room
response .
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J
usc95 wrote:
> I have heard a Rythimik sub on a friend's system and it was very capable
> with the movie we were watching. I didn't demo it like I would one for
> my own system since it was at his place but it filled in with his B
> towers nicely. Personally I would rate what I have heard as
>
On case anyone missed it .
http://archimago.blogspot.se/2018/01/audiophile-myth-260-detestable-digital.html?m=1
Great blog by Arch as usual .
The conclusion these ringing graphs are a red herring . They ate
interpretted out of context.
They are good if you want to understanf how the flter
What about Rythmik subs ? Anyone has any experience.
And again thanks for the suggestions.:)
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Context for you all.
I have the small Meridian actives they clearly likes being offloaded
from bass duties.
Much music do have subsonic content , once you heard it you cant be
without it :)
I have a wide music taste.
This is also my HT setup.
I also listen to multichannel music and uses some
slartibartfast wrote:
> These seem to get good reviews.
> https://www.bkelec.com
>
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Thanks forgot those guys , the where oem's for REL in the past .
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Anyone bougth HSU in Europe at all BTW ?
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch +
drmatt wrote:
> Do audiophiles buy subs then? I thought the hard core audiophile
> wouldn't trust third party amplification for any part of their playback
> frequency range
>
>
> -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk-
Don't know but i think my audiophile card is revoked :D
REL and SVS are aviable in Sweden .
I could go to REL directly but the company restructured and shift owners
2 times since thier original series of subs so its really not the same
but new REL could be amazing too :) I can go and listen to REL in a
nearby town.
SVS subs is interesting due to
What do the forums thinks is a decent sub .
I think electronics in my old REL Stadium III is on its last leg . It
gets hot and emits random subsonic noise .
Soo if i cant find a repair shop I have to consider a new sub .
I have not shopped for a sub for 15years so suggestions are welcome.
Tigh
We have several treads on recording vinyl you do need a riaa stage or
preamp or similar , not just the analog in on your computer.
Maybe a better sound card if inputs on laptops reached new bottom levels
. But any decent soundcards fidelity far exceeds vinyl .
On topic it was some fun when I
I think thats the actual ritual about spining those discs, Im little
sadened that i sold all my vinyls 20 years ago :-/
It sometimes think about. create a retro hifi system of some kind, just
for pure nostalgia .
Main
When I remeber my LP days it thought the low level MC cart sounded even
better , bu then you need a separate MC amp before the MM input or a
phone stage that handles MC directly , something that you select both
gain and I put impedance .
Cart also needs matching to the tonearm I mostly used
What about all the recordings that mastered <=48kHz ( 99% )
They want MQA encode every old record as usual and resell to us
again.
Even if this process worked it could only be aplied to these select
24/192 DXD DSD master that do exist.
And the legacy recordings should be left alone .
Same
SeanMiddleton wrote:
> I have a massive collection of flacs derived from 44.1 Khz CD's. I also
> have quite a number of HD tracks ranging from 24/48 up to 24/384. In
> many case I have the same album in both HD and 44.1. Most of the time,
> when comparing a HD track that was distilled from a HD
You could also add the fact that some analog tapes did not age well .
The digital copy from 1989 may be as good as it ever gets.
Also some early CDs was simply cut from the LP master tape . A good
engineer knows that an LP is not transparent and have some well known
issues to workaround so they
Archimago wrote:
> Happy New Year everyone!
>
> Yup. No surprise about the paicity of actual hi-res music. For years
> HDtracks has been releasing upsampled music. And few of the recordings
> of course achieve anything close to needing beyond 16-bits if even that.
> Years ago, I wrote the
Yes this is a quite common case the existing master is 44,1kHz or
sometimes 24/48 which seems to be the popular music standard some niche
audiophile or some classical labels may use higher resolution but they
are the exception .
But it does not really help with much of thier content which is
Golden Earring wrote:
> My pet bat, Biggles, will probably appreciate them - he's been getting
> rather down at night lately... :D
>
> Dave :cool:
Say hello from me :)
I do know that 2ch hirez is rather pointless, but some are not even
trying ( reselling the same stuff yet again ).
I do
I do have a whole bunch of AIX records they are truly amazingly recorded
, recommend them .they are a large part of my DVDA collection . You can
get most of them as downloads at itrax .
They are truly hirez ( not that it matter that much ) ie their technical
resolution goes beyond what could be
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1856656547/music-and-audio-a-user-guide-to-better-sound/posts/2013309
Mark Waldrep is apearently preparing a book ebook blueray thing about
audio .
It could be an interesting read in its entirety.
Here are the excerpts about MQA facts as a teaser .
We all
Objektive characterisation of loudspeakers . Sean Olive of Harman
International had an article about it years ago .
They claim to have some sort of method involving many different
measurments a staggering undertaking if i remember there where dossens
of them .
For from small signal electronics,
The main features are 1. proprietary ( license revenue ) 2. and lossy (
the record companies does not need to disclose a studio master ).
Wonder if universal is going to embedd thier horrible watermark in a MQA
file to :D
Oh and "within specs" quality amps usually behaves ok when driven close
and slightly over their limits and still sounds "ok" not so well
designed stuff can behave really bad .
In the early 90's I saw magazine actually measuring amps with a real
speakers , they built a very robust speaker not
Well choose your speakers first .
Todays amp's -driven within their spec's- rarely impose any audible
signature at all unless designed that way ( tube amplifier with
transformers ) .
Speakers are usually designed so that an amp with very low output
impendance and a flat frequency response
I I forgot the UMG watermark that universal and its subsidiaries has
embedded in all thier music it's audible in all music and especially
classic it's not that subtle as it survives lower bitrates than we
discuss here.
Spotty plugin should give 320k already there is no exposed settings ? Is
not premium a prerequisite to have any squeezebox integration .
Also LMS have a setting to lower the volume on streaming sources default
is -5dB set this to 0 dB .
Also turn of all volume levelling in LMS if your going to
Another thougth active speakers ? Or active digital speakers ? Provided
one can find speakers that otherwise satisfy taste and acoustiscs .
Important caveat the xover should be digital or analog before the amps
showing the amp in the speaker box and still have a passive filter does
not make them
Rip your CD's to 16/44.1 FLAC files and save the investment of a CD
player .
You can now listen to your CD's via LMS and your squeezebox touch .
If your stereo also is in your TV room and you get a DAC with multiple
digital inputs or an amp with multiple digital inputs just use your dvd
or
Replace the micro , only bad ones leak rf , they are usually better than
that .
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
pippin wrote:
> MQA certification primarily means you pay a license fee and then you can
> use the label.
Yes agree , then we migth ask how inportant they think their own spec is
.
drmatt wrote:
> Indeed. Presumably "mqa certification" just means "thou shalt implement
> a bunch of filters
It's seems that mqa can be implemented differently ( which is strange
given what they say they ate doing ...)
So it can be intresting to see how diffrent DAC's switch filters and
varies other settings and implement the noise shaping dither etc ?
Recoveryone wrote:
> my first clue about his status was his remark about the Hi Rez files not
> sounding Audiophile quality. How many years have this board and many
> others had this debate on audiophile quality, when we all know or should
> know it all starts at the master recording. Just
AIFF hires migth need some transcoding that the onboard server on Touch
can't handle .
Native aiff and alac above 16/44.1 had some bugs in the past ? , better
let a real LMS server turn those to hirez flac with its transcoding
Buy a raspi using the Touch as a music server is a dead end it barely
works .
Yes OP intends to use Touch as the server to not only as player .
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arnyk wrote:
>
>
> Comforting words, but is their any reliable evidence to back them up?
Mostly hope they seems to get older fewer :) and high end shops gets few
and far between .
But on the other hand internet :/ yeah you can live in your filterbubble
and buy stuff online .
The cult may live
Julf wrote:
> But then there is this: 'Why the Flat Earth Movement is the Best Symbol
> of the Increasingly Diminished Value of Truth and Intelligence'
>
Well I think the hostile aproach drives up to much tension and personal
prestige it locks everyone involved into their trenches.
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MeridianDSP5200
I tend to think of it as a cultural thing . I'm no anthropologist and
can't always find the words in English ( not my first language).
It's giving "them" to much credit calling conspiracy all the time .
The audiophile community has iterated down to this in small steps , it's
just what happens
I think archimago does it even better :) he have carefully measured and
presented real evidence on his site.
That works really well with the part of the pupolation that have not yet
got "audiophilia" .
The calm matter of fact manner helps convince the much bigger audience
that not yet
jazzyphile wrote:
> I installed an highly rated Holo Audio Spring (Level II) external DAC to
> Transporter digital output (Coaxial). Spring DAC shows correct 44 k, 88
> k or 96 k on DAC screen but there is no change in sound. If I turn
> Spring DAC off the sound stay the exactly the same as if
ralphpnj wrote:
> Correction:
>
> In America in the year 2017 all science is now pseudo-science and one is
> free to believe the science or not, depending on how the science may
> effect one's bottom line.
One of the wonderfull things about scientific results is that they are
true even if you
Anyone considered that that the sq of an iPhone 6 is rather good,
ability to drive certian headphones can be limited but not a bad source
:)
There is simply no piont getting a special portable player for most
people even people who actually cares .
Pono should have made a stationary device to
StephenPG wrote:
> I spotted the link in your signature, after I posted...
>
> Try this link for the Audio Myths workshop.
>
> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59xvic
Yes that works :) , Ethan Winer is also one of those who tirelessly
writes about audio in a realistic way .
Wombat wrote:
> Unfortunately you can come up every week and add some sentense like "*QA
> is based entirely on science. Specifically, it is based on new findings
> in Neuroscience" and all solid critics based on recent hearing is
> ignored.
> I like Archimago uses the most spot on word you can
StephenPG wrote:
> Mnyb,
>
> Have you seen these?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM=528s
>
> https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ=3058s
And the first link is another of monthy's very
StephenPG wrote:
> Mnyb,
>
> Have you seen these?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM=528s
>
> https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ=3058s
I have a look ( not at home ) the one i
Good work as usual :)
The combined impact of all your very good writing , is a signifikant
countermeasure to all the mysticism out there .
Most of your articles are good by themself . The combination of all of
it is even greater .
It's the same power as the mysticists use . There are decades
Other tidbits.
There are in many cases not the same masters HD vs CD ( compare Apples
and oranges ) and as you said, it's a toss up which ones the better :)
Most recordings ever made are intrisinicly not better than the CD system
anyway i.e. Noise frequency response distortion etc.
Whatever
Sadly this kind of product works very well with the audiophile mindset ,
you could also have a twiddly knob that did not do anything at all . (
placebo twiddly knob anyone ? ) this one does subtle things that or may
not be audible , but thanks to sighted testing etc the imagined part is
much
ralphpnj wrote:
> i just finished reading a really poorly written review of Auralic's
> Altair streaming DAC and in the review extensive coverage is given over
> to the various filters in the unit.
>
> So my question is:
>
> How are these "filters" different from a simple graphic equalizer or
drmatt wrote:
> No, and never will unless you know someone willing to write a connector
> for no money whatsoever.. :)
>
> Just saying that functionality exists outside the LMS universe already,
> that's already happened. If that's what you want, you can have it.
Shazam is extremely usefull
I would like discrete surround .
DSD was never a good idea not even in the 90's you can do equally good
with PCM and PCM can be used for processing like mixing and in the end
users system for room correction volume DSP crossovers etc .
DSD only works in the antique paradigm of DAC to analog
atrocity wrote:
> It would be a disaster for those of us with lots of DTS and AC-3 in our
> libraries, too.
That's solvable for RG tags simply don't have them in these files that
fixes it for LMS where you can turn of this completely.
I suppose you can in roon ,some of that crowd is very picky
Well some Audio Note DAC's may not actually be transparent some of thier
design desicions are "unortodox".
So it migth always stand out .
But it's cool that anyone owning AN products trying .
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Julf wrote:
> It is also worth noting that 432 is less than 2% lower than 440. Doing a
> simple sample rate change will result in the music playing 1.8% too slow
> - will anyone even notice a tempo change that small?
People with "absolute pitch" hearing ? Or whats its called in english
notice.
The VU meters will not work they are rendered by the server so thats not
an indication of anything .
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You should try the Xilinx reset as suggested .
Install the digital input plugin first then reset and then maybe restart
things ?
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MeridianDSP5200
Is it not also a trend for more authentic older style classical music ?
( no voodoo involved )
Some want a more period correct tuning ?
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I got mine running on a Raspi3 with Max2Play at the moment , I may
switch to DietPi later .
I'm going to have tonigths listening on my new digi+ :)
Initial impression ,no glitches or skips or whatnot will try sync
between another PI later to see if that turns up any issues.
It's probably
Welll the Q is bit more complex , if you intend to do some post
processing of the recordings it's good to have them as 24 bits when
that's done you can convert to 16/48 and be done as it is as you say
more than enough fidelity to store the vinyl recording.
And you can be more generous with
It has been part of Meridian HT processors since at least 2004.
It operates sligthly diffrent , its active under 300Hz and also corrects
the time domain you build several
Filters with sligthly diffrent target reverb times . The nodes does not
only have higher amplitude but also ladt longer in
As being suckered in by the original hirez campaign and having a lot of
DVDA a think it's correct to say that 50% is fake and probably more so
with the more popular SACD format .
I did buy a lot AIX/itrax releases these are actual hirez recordings.
I see the marketing angle here they recording
My thoughts.
Only closely miced apply ultrasound is rapidly damped in air.
The 20kHz is welll established due to the mechanical "design" of our ear
, exceptions is extremely rare .
HF hearing starts to detoriate when we are kids and dont get better.
And the extrme ends of our range 20 and
Jeff07971 wrote:
> Getting really off topic now !
Yes , I drop out now , unless someone says something weird about cat5-8
cables regarding better separation between instruments :P or some other
analog attribution ( fundamental miss understanding of how digital works
).
For us old dudes 20kHz bandwidth is more than enough:) 16k for n most
cases .
Last time i checked an audiophiles whas not a teenage girl musical
prodigy :) they may actually hear 20k.
I think the 20-20kHz bw includes most humans it would be truly
exceptional very rare . And only applicable to
Sorry i meant 20bit >50k sampling if inwas unclear .
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sub.
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"Yes" recordings can be done at 96kHz for producing purposes .
We are limited by our hearing usually below 20kHz so we reproduce what
we can hear .
Some argue that 44.1 kHz is a close shave hence 48kHz is/was used in
recording studios the last decades .
Thats a bit off the history i don't know
Nyqist is true for a properly bandwidth limited signal . No signal above
1/2 fs .
It does not have to be sinus , you can argue that the 20kHz content
actualy is sinusoidal .
And mr fourier was also rigth any other wave form is made by sums of
sinus waves.
The nitpicking begins with how to
And even the analog part is relitively deterministic and one dimensional
compared to the mechanical converters in the audio system ?
Microphones and speakers and acoustics .( or pickups and turntables if
one wants another mechanical thing in the audio chain ).
With really skilled engineering
arnyk wrote:
> I see no evidence that Mnyb has said that he owns gear that uses a
> transfer method that he doesn't believe in.
>
> As I understnd his older posts, the Meridian gear he owns was made and
> sold long before MQA was put on the market - years if not decades.
>
Short version.
I believe in digital tranfer methods so much that i dont atribute "
analog characterists " to them ( ie sweeter treble ).
And they work perfectly and transparently with good spec normal cables
nothingfancy needed.
The asyncrounus tranfers merhods and mostly the ethernet
edwardthern wrote:
> Yes I know what the topic is about. But I am asking YOU why did you
> purchase gear that uses a transfer method that you don't believe in?
>
> MQA is nothing more than audiophile gimmick.
Then you missunderstod completely. ( sorry for the rubbish spelling, I
used the phone
edwardthern wrote:
> Seeing that you don't believe in audiophile I2s transfer methods why
> would you buy a product that uses it?
>
> If you even own the great in your signature Which I doubt
The topc was not i2s transfer methods but ethernet networking .
Yes i do own this gear . Meridian
edwardthern wrote:
> I use a audioquest Ethernet cable for i2s makes all the difference in
> the world over standard cable. Reaches much deeper into the music, more
> of everything. Of course you need quality gear and the ability to hear
> well to appreciate these things.
Note I2S he said .
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