Mnyb wrote:
Great ! It also seams like flac has a bit higher distortion a whooping
0.0002 % more :) atrocious .
So the FLAC/WAV thing is also an Nigerian letter to the audiophiles .
The most interesting thing is that the ones claiming that they hear this
difference often uses external
Mnyb wrote:
With correct system gain digital volume would be the best solution
,actually the only workable one if you want *exact* volume tracking
between all channels , you ever had a preamp where the volume is
slightly higher in one channel on low volume ?
You don't want the balance
chill wrote:
Yes, it seems obvious now in light of your explanation, and indeed I
poked around on the miniDSP site and found a confirmation in a forum
thread that the volume control is done in the digital domain. This
means of course that the potentiometer doesn't have to be 'audiophile'
jh901 wrote:
Frankly, you have little experience as an audiophile
I guess you are right.
I have a fair bit of experience with various cults and secret societies,
but I don't seem to belong to the one you belong to.
Instead I have merely enjoyed good music reproduction using electronic
and
Mnyb wrote:
Like a coincidence , if DVDA or SACD has a cd quality layer ,this layer
always sounds worse than the hirez ;)
Check out the CD layers of the remastered Rolling Stones and Bob Dylan
hybrid SACDs, in particular, Let It Bleed by the Stones. The CD layers
benefit from the DSD
Jeff52 wrote:
Check out the CD layers of the remastered Rolling Stones and Bob Dylan
hybrid SACDs, in particular, Let It Bleed by the Stones. The CD layers
benefit from the DSD remastering of the SACD layer and really sound
good.
I quite agree about Kind Of Blue. Some other good
Julf wrote:
I don't have much experience *as* an audiophile in the way that you
seem to be using the word.
I have merely enjoyed good music reproduction using electronic and
electro-mechanical systems
I've come to dislike the word audiophile and do not use it in
reference to myself.
Mnyb wrote:
Any Dylan in particular ( I find stones overrated but a good live show )
I sometime listen to Dylan but not often .
If I charge my phone via the Shunyata research would my mp3's sound
better ? I don't find the background black I'm rather surrounded by
busses and bicycles and
Mnyb wrote:
If I charge my phone via the Shunyata research would my mp3's sound
better?
Of course. The electric field compensation circuit ensures the bits
settle in an unbiased state inside your phone - very important
considering all the eddy currents within the phone.
I wonder if there is
ralphpnj wrote:
The iPod Classic I use when traveling or taking the train. Great little
device but not audiophile quality without installing RockBox which I
have not done.
Audiophille quality is hardly that important when listening to an iPod
on the train. But there is something far more
ralphpnj wrote:
Very true but the reason for my dismissal of pandasharka is that it
appears that he/she is nothing more than an apple fanboy.
Nice try Ralph. You missed the bit about the Linn DS set up.
Just for a laugh, I wonder whether you can articulate the 'audiophile'
advantage of
pandasharka wrote:
Just for a laugh, I wonder whether you can articulate the 'audiophile'
advantage of standard SB Touch, over the Airport Express into external
DAC please?
Three really, really BIG reasons:
1) In order to stream digital audio to the Airport Express one has to
use iTunes
ralphpnj wrote:
Three really, really BIG reasons:
1) In order to stream digital audio to the Airport Express one has to
use iTunes which means no FLAC support.
2) iTunes is a horrible music library manager
3) No support for 24bit files.
Sorry to disappoint you.
Very sorry to
Is it no so that airport/iTunes resample,everything to 16/48
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I think the results will be surprising for most. I was certainly
surprised as I checked the survey day to day and started to see the bias
/ significance building strongly a couple weeks into the test!
Bottom line - most respondents thought the lossless Set sounded
inferior!
Forget iTunes, I've never used it and never will. My external DAC
supports FLAC etc.
Now please, give me your best arguments for why I should not have sold
the SB Touch at a nice profit, replaced it with an airport express to
stream into my external DAC. (Which made my standard SB Touch sound
Archimago wrote:
I think the results will be surprising for most. I was certainly
surprised as I checked the survey day to day and started to see the bias
/ significance building strongly a couple weeks into the test!
Bottom line - most respondents thought the lossless Set sounded
pandasharka wrote:
Very sorry to disappoint you, no iTunes this end, Spotify only. Now tell
me about the audiophile advantage of SB Touch in that scenario.
I'm all ears, and waiting with baited breath..
pandasharka wrote:
Forget iTunes, I've never used it and never will. My external DAC
garym wrote:
Very interesting. You'll now need to change your identity and go into
the witness protection program. The Audiophiles will hunt you
downparticularly with this line:
... it seems like the participants with more expensive equipment
preferred the lossy tracks.
Seriously
The second generation Airport is a nice device. It has a native and
clean 16/44.1 digital output that should be the majority of files most
users own. So it may be a worthwhile digital transport, why not?
The HiRes files you have you can resample yourself to 16/44.1 for daily
use and don´t let
ralphpnj wrote:
Now I understand, or think I understand, so please correct me if I'm
mistaken. It appears that you are only using the Airport Express to
stream content from Spotify, in other words, to stream Internet radio,
which is basically what Spotify is.
Streaming Spotify is not
pandasharka wrote:
OK, so if you accept there is no difference streaming Spotify at 320k or
whatever their premium service streams at in extreme,
can you elaborate on the difference between streaming any other media
please? Eg. Ripped CD's.
In the space of one post, we've come back from
Very interesting results. Thank you for the time and care you spent
doing this.
I am not a researcher, just an amateur like yourself :), but I have a
few methodological concerns:
1) You bundled the files into two complete bundles (all mp3s were in
group A, all lossless in B). In doing so it
Gentlemen, I know you like to have a laugh at the audiophile madness,
just like I am aghast at the obscene pricing and unnecessary cosmetic
build materials. In the case, of speaker cables and power cables, if you
measure the electrical properties of stock vs say, Shunyata, there will
surely be
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
BTW, Shunyata in sanskrit language means, nothingness. They are trying
to shoot for it in their cable designs.
I'm sorry to have to correct you on this but the nothingness has nothing
to do with their cable designs and everything to do with the contents of
your wallet,
azinck3 wrote:
Very interesting results. Thank you for the time and care you spent
doing this.
I am not a researcher, just an amateur like yourself :), but I have a
few methodological concerns:
1) You bundled the files into two complete bundles (all mp3s were in
group A, all lossless
ralphpnj wrote:
I know that for 99% of music it is very difficult to tell the difference
between a 320K mp3 and a flac but that does not mean there aren't
differences. If you are happy with 320k mp3 or whatever is the Apple
equivalent then great. I prefer flac or lossless files. However that
pandasharka wrote:
The Linn Klimax DS set up I have with 4500+ CDs burnt to storage is
irrelevant, controlled with iPad and Kinsky.
Also please forward a sensible argument as to why if you sold your SB
gear and streamed into an external DAC via airport express or similar,
you would lose
ralphpnj wrote:
I know that for 99% of music it is very difficult to tell the difference
between a 320K mp3 and a flac but that does not mean there aren't
differences. If you are happy with 320k mp3 or whatever is the Apple
equivalent then great. I prefer flac or lossless files. However that
FWIW since folks are talking power cables now, I compared the Essence
One's output using the stock power cable vs. hospital/biomedical power
cable used in ICU equipment. Obviously the biomed cable is much better
built and more robust, with better shielding.
No difference with the noise floor
ralphpnj wrote:
I already told what you would lose so I'll just go back to my original
reply to you:
I guess when the heat gets a lil hot, best out hey?
Idiot.
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pandasharka wrote:
I guess when the heat gets a lil hot, best out hey?
Idiot.
It's not the heat, it's the density. Do me a favor and try reading what
I write and stop calling me names.
I already told you that if the Airport Express works for you then great.
The fact of the matter is that
ralphpnj wrote:
It's not the heat, it's the density. Do me a favor and try reading what
I write and stop calling me names.
I already told you that if the Airport Express works for you then great.
The fact of the matter is that the Airport Express is NOT equivalent to
the SB Touch in many,
pandasharka wrote:
From someone who flamed me for being an apple fan boy? Lets call it
quits. I dont really have the inclination. Enjoy your set up, and I will
too.
Agreed and I'm sorry about the fanboy remark.
Touch (coax) - Onkyo 875
The Onkyo has some Burr-Brown PCM1796 (24bit/192kHz) DAC's onboard.
I'm very happy with the quality of the sound and it sounds great on my
Klipsch RF7-MKII's !
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Archimago wrote:
FWIW since folks are talking power cables now, I compared the Essence
One's output using the stock power cable vs. hospital/biomedical power
cable used in ICU equipment. Obviously the biomed cable is much better
built and more robust, with better shielding.
No difference
Hmm... seems like no one is reading my posts. Nonetheless if still
someone is interestet. Now i link to another side i thought i´ll never
do but this one is interesting.
Airport Express has native 16/44.1 digital out:
jvanhambelgium wrote:
Did you perform some measurement between regular PSU of the Touch and
some ultra-lineair one ?
That would be interesting too.
No. Don't have an (ultra)linear PS to test.
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garym wrote:
Edit: And your results are essentially consistent with many large scale
tests of the transparency of mp3 files relative to the original
lossless. High bitrate mp3 files test as completely transparent (no
ability to ABX differences) except for certain relatively rare special
cdmackay wrote:
Is this really consistent with that? This test seems to show a
preference for MP3, which suggests a lack of transparency, for whatever
odd reason. Or are you saying this test is the rare special case?
and thanks to OP for the excellent test :)
Exactly. It was frankly a bit
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