Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Josef Miegl
Hello Drew, I am a fan of your work on Sway and wlroots, but some of your statements left me pretty disappointed. >For the AUR I don't keep up with upstream releases, I just wait for >someone to mark the package as outdated. For Alpine Linux I use a >combination of subscribing to the upstream

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Jerome Leclanche
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:51 PM Josef Miegl wrote: > Although I don't have high expectations when dealing with AUR packages, it is > absolutely the maintainers job to keep track of upstream updates. This > mindset is probably the reason why there is so much out of date stuff on the > AUR. It

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Levente Polyak via aur-general
On 2/28/19 2:58 PM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:51 PM Josef Miegl wrote: >> Although I don't have high expectations when dealing with AUR packages, it >> is absolutely the maintainers job to keep track of upstream updates. This >> mindset is probably the reason why

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread alad via aur-general
Am 28.02.2019 um 04:25 schrieb Drew DeVault via aur-general: On 2019-02-28 2:22 AM, Levente Polyak via aur-general wrote: For the AUR I don't keep up with upstream releases, I just wait for someone to mark the package as outdated. For Alpine Linux I use a combination of subscribing to the

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Geo Kozey via aur-general
> From: Drew DeVault via aur-general > Sent: Thu Feb 28 04:25:10 CET 2019 > To: Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR) > > Cc: Drew DeVault > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault > > > On 2019-02-28 2:22 AM, Levente Polyak via aur-general wrote: > > >

[aur-general] Enforcing AUR package quality (was Re: Trusted user application: Drew DeVault)

2019-02-28 Thread Daniel M. Capella via aur-general
On February 28, 2019 8:58:06 AM EST, Jerome Leclanche wrote: >OT: We should maybe have the AUR lint PKGBUILDs on git push (and >reject really bad ones) if we want to improve that situation. > >J. Leclanche I've been thinking enforcing the use of makechrootpkg and namcap on package submission

Re: [aur-general] Enforcing AUR package quality (was Re: Trusted user application: Drew DeVault)

2019-02-28 Thread brent s.
On 2/28/19 11:22 AM, Daniel M. Capella via aur-general wrote: > On February 28, 2019 8:58:06 AM EST, Jerome Leclanche > wrote: > > > >> OT: We should maybe have the AUR lint PKGBUILDs on git push (and >> reject really bad ones) if we want to improve that situation. >> >> J. Leclanche > >

Re: [aur-general] Enforcing AUR package quality (was Re: Trusted user application: Drew DeVault)

2019-02-28 Thread Daniel M. Capella via aur-general
On February 28, 2019 11:33:36 AM EST, "brent s." wrote: >On 2/28/19 11:22 AM, Daniel M. Capella via aur-general wrote: >> On February 28, 2019 8:58:06 AM EST, Jerome Leclanche > wrote: >> >> >> >>> OT: We should maybe have the AUR lint PKGBUILDs on git push (and >>> reject really bad ones) if

Re: [aur-general] Enforcing AUR package quality (was Re: Trusted user application: Drew DeVault)

2019-02-28 Thread alad via aur-general
Am 28.02.2019 um 17:34 schrieb Jerome Leclanche: On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 5:22 PM Daniel M. Capella via aur-general wrote: On February 28, 2019 8:58:06 AM EST, Jerome Leclanche wrote: OT: We should maybe have the AUR lint PKGBUILDs on git push (and reject really bad ones) if we want to

Re: [aur-general] Enforcing AUR package quality (was Re: Trusted user application: Drew DeVault)

2019-02-28 Thread Eli Schwartz via aur-general
On 2/28/19 11:22 AM, Daniel M. Capella via aur-general wrote: > On February 28, 2019 8:58:06 AM EST, Jerome Leclanche > wrote: > > > >> OT: We should maybe have the AUR lint PKGBUILDs on git push (and >> reject really bad ones) if we want to improve that situation. >> >> J. Leclanche > >

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Eli Schwartz via aur-general
On 2/28/19 9:26 AM, Levente Polyak via aur-general wrote: > On 2/28/19 2:58 PM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:51 PM Josef Miegl wrote: >>> Although I don't have high expectations when dealing with AUR packages, it >>> is absolutely the maintainers job to keep track of

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Levente Polyak via aur-general
On 2/28/19 3:33 PM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > > We have TUs with hundreds of packages. Beyond automatic checks, do you > really expect they keep up with every single release? > I've myself updated several packages that were out of date (and > unflagged) in [community]. I'm not saying the attitude

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Josef Miegl
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 02:58:06PM +0100, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > No, it is not, and please don't expect this of volunteers. Right, I don't expect that from AUR volunteers, but that doesn't mean the AUR shouldn't be taken seriously. If the maitainer has not interest in updating and seeking out

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Eli Schwartz via aur-general
On 2/28/19 8:58 AM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:51 PM Josef Miegl wrote: >> Although I don't have high expectations when dealing with AUR packages, it >> is absolutely the maintainers job to keep track of upstream updates. This >> mindset is probably the reason why

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Jerome Leclanche
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 3:26 PM Levente Polyak via aur-general wrote: > > On 2/28/19 2:58 PM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:51 PM Josef Miegl wrote: > >> Although I don't have high expectations when dealing with AUR packages, it > >> is absolutely the maintainers job to

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Levente Polyak via aur-general
On 2/28/19 3:43 PM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 3:36 PM Levente Polyak via aur-general > wrote: >> >> On 2/28/19 3:33 PM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: >>> >>> We have TUs with hundreds of packages. Beyond automatic checks, do you >>> really expect they keep up with every single

Re: [aur-general] Enforcing AUR package quality (was Re: Trusted user application: Drew DeVault)

2019-02-28 Thread Daniel M. Capella via aur-general
On February 28, 2019 11:34:08 AM EST, Jerome Leclanche wrote: >On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 5:22 PM Daniel M. Capella via aur-general > wrote: >> >> On February 28, 2019 8:58:06 AM EST, Jerome Leclanche > wrote: >> >> >> >> >OT: We should maybe have the AUR lint PKGBUILDs on git push (and >> >reject

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Jerome Leclanche
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 3:36 PM Levente Polyak via aur-general wrote: > > On 2/28/19 3:33 PM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > > > > We have TUs with hundreds of packages. Beyond automatic checks, do you > > really expect they keep up with every single release? > > I've myself updated several packages

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Drew DeVault via aur-general
The AUR is not community. The expectations are higher for trusted users - hence the trust. Naturally responding to emails, keeping up with new releases, etc, is part of the role. That's why it's a *role* - it serves to define the responsibilities. There is no role for AUR package maintainer

Re: [aur-general] Trusted user application: Drew DeVault

2019-02-28 Thread Levente Polyak via aur-general
On 2/28/19 4:49 PM, Drew DeVault via aur-general wrote: > The AUR is not community. The expectations are higher for trusted users > - hence the trust. Naturally responding to emails, keeping up with new > releases, etc, is part of the role. That's why it's a *role* - it serves > to define the

Re: [aur-general] Enforcing AUR package quality (was Re: Trusted user application: Drew DeVault)

2019-02-28 Thread Jerome Leclanche
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 5:22 PM Daniel M. Capella via aur-general wrote: > > On February 28, 2019 8:58:06 AM EST, Jerome Leclanche > wrote: > > > > >OT: We should maybe have the AUR lint PKGBUILDs on git push (and > >reject really bad ones) if we want to improve that situation. > > > >J.

Re: [aur-general] Enforcing AUR package quality (was Re: Trusted user application: Drew DeVault)

2019-02-28 Thread Daniel M. Capella via aur-general
On February 28, 2019 12:43:02 PM EST, Eli Schwartz via aur-general wrote: >On 2/28/19 11:22 AM, Daniel M. Capella via aur-general wrote: >> On February 28, 2019 8:58:06 AM EST, Jerome Leclanche >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> OT: We should maybe have the AUR lint PKGBUILDs on git push (and >>>