Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread stephenk
  Why limit it to self launch? Auto tow is a viable method of launching gliders and suitable cars would be comparatively cheap. There used to be at least 2 privately owned winches in South Australia. Privately owned tugs in Australia. There would be a few. Would also alleviate the problem

Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread Greg Wilson
I think this is a step in the right direction. Even better if L1 L2 ops were abolished altogether and all holders of GPC fly without supervision. Greg Wilson On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 16:36:06 +1100 Richard Frawley rjfraw...@gmail.com wrote i put my hand up to take this to the

Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread James McDowall
What about anybody with a RA-Aus pilot certificate and anybody with a RPL, PPL, etc with an endorsement for self launcher? On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Richard Frawley wrote: > i put my hand up to take this to the exec. who else (must be GFA member) i > can count on for

Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread Richard Frawley
i put my hand up to take this to the exec. who else (must be GFA member) i can count on for support? step 1: anyone cleared to fly a Self Launcher automatically has L2 OPS annotated on GPC (will that work?) > On 5 Feb 2017, at 4:10 pm, James McDowall

Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread James McDowall
Elsewhere in this discussion it was noted that the majority of GFA new registrations last year were powered. The interests of these people need to be accommodated NOW, not when the powerless gliders can't be launched because it is too expensive or I just cant move my zimmer frame fast enough to

Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread Richard Frawley
It is well know that the biggest resistance by far to the current GPC change (which was a good step forward) was by instructors and especially CFI’S and RTO’s I would be more than happy to help champion the issuance of GPC as equivalent to Level 2 Independent ops, but I can tell you now it

Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread Future Aviation Pty . Ltd .
Hi James, hello all I have argued along exactly the same lines when I was on the panel as the head coach for SA. Coming from a different country I was bewildered that there is no formal qualification for glider pilots in Australia. I argued for a Glider Pilot Licence (GPL) instead of a Glider

Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread Richard Frawley
never black and white is it…and all this subject to legal interpretation and testing in courts of law. agree with the last point, but as owners of aircraft clubs can do whatever they want to protect their aircraft but there is also consequence in over stepping with too much restriction

Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread James McDowall
The Deed between GFA and CASA has nothing to do with the GFA Operational Regulations which are the agreed operational arrangements for gliding as required by CAO 95.4. The Deed as it is titled is a funding agreement (Funding for the self administering activities of the Gliding Federation of

Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread Richard Frawley
Yes, the GFA has operational responsibility as that is what is imparted and set up to do, but the key and central relationship still remains between CASA and the Pilot. If you breach airspace are they going to chase the GFA? If anyone thinks that you can get a better deal from CASA in terms of

Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread James McDowall
Nonsense, as the document says the parties to the agreement are the GFA and CASA. Sure, I agree to the rules of the association which may include the Operational regulations referred to in CAO 95.4 (which are different to GFA's Operational regulations) but members are not party to the agreement

Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

2017-02-04 Thread Richard Frawley
Did you know that the Deed with Casa is between the glider pilot and CASA > On 4 Feb 2017, at 11:06 pm, Mark Newton wrote: > > On 4 Feb 2017, at 5:55 PM, Greg Wilson > wrote: > >> One low cost step toward