[Aus-soaring] New CASA board

Congratulations, Anita - your hard work has paid off! According to this news clip recreational aviation has a strong voice now!!! Aviation Business Doug Nancarrow has revealed the names of the last three CASA board members. They are Gliding Federation president Anita Taylor, AMDA board cha

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

At 02:39 PM 29/08/2014, you wrote: Surely there are so many variables (fuselage shape, surface of water, C of G position, etc) that almost every case would be different. I'm sure there would be examples of gear up & gear down examples succeeding and failing. Nick. It is my understanding

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

Surely there are so many variables (fuselage shape, surface of water, C of G position, etc) that almost every case would be different. I'm sure there would be examples of gear up & gear down examples succeeding and failing. Nick. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Grant Davies wrote: > Not quit

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

Not quite sure why you would put the gear down when landing on water. Is there an explanation as to why? Wouldn't this add excess drag that may cause the nose to dig in? This example shows a wheel up landing on water doesn't adversely push the nose under. Kindest Regards Grant Davies

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

On Aug 29, 2014, at 12:58 PM, dennis hipperson wrote: > Also found this: > > "Landing on water: Over the years, there has been an on-going debate on > whether > it is better to land gear up or gear down on water. Current thought from Tom > Knauff > is to always land gear down. I’d have expe

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

Also found this: "Landing on water: Over the years, there has been an on-going debate on whether it is better to land gear up or gear down on water. Current thought from Tom Knauff is to always land gear down. The rationale is that a water landing with gear up will result in the tail touching

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

Grant, I really enjoyed your jest. May you have a long and happy life Michael > On 29 Aug 2014, at 8:47 am, "Grant Davies" wrote: > > Trying to lighten a Friday. > > Sorry if it offended anyone. > > Kindest Regards > Grant Davies > > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > [ma

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

And did not turn upside down nor get sucked down which appears to be the theory behind lowering the gear to stop that. This is a link to another pilot who ditched in the sea and lowered the gear and ended upside down, he surmises that the tail may have hit a wave first, but could it also be th

Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes

From: Mike Borgelt Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 9:44 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes At 11:51 PM 28/08/2014, you wrote: I sincerely mean no disrespect to anyone and don’t intend t

Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes

At 11:51 PM 28/08/2014, you wrote: I sincerely mean no disrespect to anyone and don't intend to enter into unproductive arguments but since when does what someone says override what's written in a legal document? Chris has already posted here that changes are envisaged. As it stands I can't

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

Don't expect any of the avionics to work after you do this. I've seen what happens on a couple of occasions. One was Lake Keepit(clearly a fair bit of salt) and one was a Norwegian lake(less salt). Managed to salvage a couple of boards out of the Norwegian one. Mike At 07:36 AM 29/08/2014, yo

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

Trying to lighten a Friday. Sorry if it offended anyone. Kindest Regards Grant Davies From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Paul Bart Sent: Friday, 29 August 2014 9:06 AM To: gr...@davies.id.au; Discussion of

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

On 29 August 2014 08:58, Grant Davies wrote: Oh I see his problem, he forgot to put the wheel down. Your point being? Cheers Paul ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

Oh I see his problem, he forgot to put the wheel down. Kindest Regards Grant Davies From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Sent: Friday, 29 August 2014 7:37 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to S

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

Hmmm, it is also said that the gear should be deployed. I understand this is the recommended procedure in Finland. This glider certainly did not lower his gear. Cheers Paul On 29 August 2014 08:16, Future Aviation wrote: > Hi Alan > > > > Precisely! > > A major reason for posting this link wa

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

Hi Alan Precisely! A major reason for posting this link was to through doubt on the claim that gliders always submarine on water landings. Kind regards to all Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behal

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

Thanks Bernard, I hope we don't see a spate of such landings now. But to me it was useful because a fear for all would be the nose digging in leaving the cockpit under water. Options were oft discussed in Finland in 1976. I think it also implies such landings should be done with the undercarr

[Aus-soaring] Water Landing

Hello all It appears to me that this glider pilot either left his field selection a little late or he wanted to imitate Captain Sullenberger! In any case, it was well done! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcsrDxOI8cc

Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes

I sincerely mean no disrespect to anyone and don't intend to enter into unproductive arguments but since when does what someone says override what's written in a legal document? Chris has already posted here that changes are envisaged. As it stands I can't see how what is actually written in the MO