Re: [AusNOG] Invalid Bigpond Message-ID headers

2018-01-01 Thread Brad King
Hi Mitch, Ill send you a message off list. Cheers, Brad On 2 Jan. 2018 5:08 pm, "Mitch Cain" wrote: > Apologies if this is not the right place to post this. > > I've received quite a few emails from Telstra Bigpond customers lately > with invalid Message-ID headers.

[AusNOG] Invalid Bigpond Message-ID headers

2018-01-01 Thread Mitch Cain
Apologies if this is not the right place to post this. I've received quite a few emails from Telstra Bigpond customers lately with invalid Message-ID headers. E.g. <005801d3543e$7506ecd0$5f14c670$@o.c...@bigpond.com> Does anyone know how I could report this issue to the engineers responsible at

Re: [AusNOG] NBN/ACMA fines etc

2018-01-01 Thread Ross Wheeler
On Tue, 2 Jan 2018, paul+aus...@oxygennetworks.com.au wrote: Yes there should be transparency but it should not be something that an end user should be looking at Not sure I completely agree with you there. NBN have broken so much Could have left it at that :) this is why we now

Re: [AusNOG] NBN/ACMA fines etc

2018-01-01 Thread paul+aus...@oxygennetworks.com.au
Hey Michael, Yes there should be transparency but it should not be something that an end user should be looking at IMHO because they don't understand the complexities of how an Internet service is delivered. NBN have broken so much for the industry by marketing directly to end users I

Re: [AusNOG] NBN/ACMA fines etc

2018-01-01 Thread mike
Hi Paul, "I don't disagree that NBN has to have problems in their network, congestion simply has to be an issue at some points in time one would imagine, but of course the ACCC would have us believe that this is not the case and will never force NBN to report on such things I don't

Re: [AusNOG] NBN/ACMA fines etc

2018-01-01 Thread paul+aus...@oxygennetworks.com.au
I have to agree with Mark here, NBN have no responsibility to the consumer, they are a network owner and wholesaler, the onus of this comes on the RSP or Aggregator who buys from them, they need to build and maintain systems to ensure that the SLA's they have with the network operator (NBN) are

Re: [AusNOG] NBN/ACMA fines etc

2018-01-01 Thread mike
Mark, I think you're thinking of the days when ISPs had more end to end control than they have today. Where the handoff chain includes NBN monopoly, often aggregators and the ISP, the party responsible for any shortfall is not so clear and increased transparency is helpful for both

Re: [AusNOG] NBN/ACMA fines etc

2018-01-01 Thread Mark Newton
Then perhaps you need to talk to your aggregator, who does have telemetry available, and who you’re already paying for service, and who can give you availability data without inviting NBNCo to play in the retail market. The NBN mess is the result of the ugly Australian tendency to go running

Re: [AusNOG] NBN/ACMA fines etc

2018-01-01 Thread mike
Quoting Mark Newton : On 22 Dec 2017, at 10:36 AM, m...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Here's an idea, Why doesn't the ACMA require NBN to provide a service status page that an NBN user can key their address into and it shows :- You’re a service provider. Do you really

Re: [AusNOG] NBN/ACMA fines etc

2018-01-01 Thread Mark Newton
On 22 Dec 2017, at 10:36 AM, m...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > > Here's an idea, > > Why doesn't the ACMA require NBN to provide a service status page that > an NBN user can key their address into and it shows :- You’re a service provider. Do you really want NBNco playing in your patch? Surely