Thank you all for your help. Have a great weekendHerbOn 10/17/14, Rosemarie Capodiccircapodc@gmail.com wrote:Yes Herb, in the later records of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge, the Priest does NOT indicate a parent's death at all. Very frustrating when you are trying to pin down the right couple or when
Hi
Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record
of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa
de Viveiros. Right side of page. As best as I an make out they were
married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza
He was the son of Manuel de Sousa and Ursula de Viveiros. She was the
daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos and Theresa de Viveiros
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi
Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record
of the
Shirly Allegre, Cheri, Joe and someone else on this list is related to this
line also.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:
Umbelina da Conceicao was my kids 3rd great aunt. Her sister Maria Libania
was their 3rd great grandmother. Attached is her
Excellent. Thanks Pam
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On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:
He was the son of Manuel de Sousa and Ursula de Viveiros. She was the
daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos and Theresa de Viveiros
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Herb
Hi Herb,
They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São
José.
José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and
Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from
Matriz da Ribeira Grande,
Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and muller
And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues and Antonia or
Roza Cabral of Porto Formoso?
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On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Herb,
They
Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora
da Estrella Ribeira Grande, her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria
Cabral from Porto Formoso
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote:
Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao
I have taken several DNA tests mtDNA, Y-DNA and myOrigins and lack matches
to mainland Portugal. I match one person from Lisbon through myOrigins but
she has a verified Pereira ancestor from Castelo Branco,
Faial born about 1700. My mtDNA(T2b-T16296C!) and Y-DNA(J-M319)
sub-haplogroups
From a different record, I have Joao Sousa Travassos’s wife’s name as Maria
Nunes.
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam
Santos
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:05 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia
I wonder why they didn't list her last name if indeed it was Nunes. Most
records I have seen from that time period listed the wife's last name
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On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Erica Botelho audiosource...@qwestoffice.net
wrote:
From a different record, I have Joao Sousa
Name is Rego, I guess.
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Enviada: sábado, 18 de Outubro de 2014 16:44
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Maia marriage
Hi
Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of
Hi Antonio,Maybe you can clarify your question, but I know some have tested who have both Y and autosomal DNA coming from the mainland and whose ancestor was living in the Azores. But the person I'm thinking of was born in the middle 1800s.Maybe you are talking about end of line ancestors from the
Doug,
Basically I am most interested in Y-DNA and mtDNA matches that link the
Azores to Mainland Portugal to get clues about the movement that occurred
during the settlement process of the Azores . Very
little of that history is recorded and I think DNA in the future will fill
some of
Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a fact
I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande, Furnas,
Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha (border area)
where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five villages.
8 Sep 1749 in Maia marriage for Jose de Sousa and Theresa
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote:
Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a
fact I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande,
Furnas, Achadinha, Ponta
I am connected through Jose de Sousa and Theresa Viveiros. Their daughter Joana
married Manuel da Silva in Sao Jose on 11 July 1778. But Manuel was first
married to Joana's sister Maria who passed away. I read this in RR book awhile
back but can't remember exactly where. Anyway the Manuel da
All the names are there. Blow it up some more and have a good look. It says
Jose de Souza filho de Manoel de Souza Benevides e de Urcela de Viveiros...
de Capellas, where he was baptised, etc and com Thereza de Viveiros filha
de Manoel d Souza Travassos e Thereza de Viveiros fraguesia de
My sole mtDNA match is to someone whose mother comes from a family in a
region of central Portugal where they have lived for generations. Not sure
if that's significant but it's all I have.
Mary
On Saturday, October 18, 2014, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote:
I have taken several DNA
The Portugal DNA project is rather neglected. No one recruits
participants for that project. Hard to make matches when there's no one to
match to.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada
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Thanks for sharing Mary, where in the Azores is your most distant maternal
known ancestor from? Do you happen to know the name of the town in Portugal
that mother of you match is from?
On Saturday, October 18, 2014 2:56:20 PM UTC-7, Mary Bordi wrote:
My sole mtDNA match is to someone whose
Thats not the record sorry. Its one of the other marriages. He is looking
for the wife of Joao de Sousa Travassos.,
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote:
All the names are there. Blow it up some more and have a good look. It
says Jose de Souza filho de Manoel de Souza
Herb
Here is what I can make out:
You have the date right!
Jose de Sousa son of Manuel de Sousa (Banavides) Benevides (the B is similar to
the B in Baptism) and Ursula (Urcela) de Viveiros residents in N. S. da
Apresenacao, Capelas where the groom was baptised with Teresa de Viveiros
That's too bad about the Portugal DNA project, I realize that the biggest
chunk of FTDNA samples are from North America there is a good sized
Continental Portuguese community in the US in New Jersey,
New York . There is a lot of potential samples there.
On Saturday, October 18, 2014
My cousins ms sister in law is having her father in law tested (he be d a
descendant of one of the many Mrdoncs families of Graciosa). Not sure exactly
which test they will doing though. Will check snd see what I can find out on
yah at.
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Antonio,Your point is excellent.I have a cousin of a cousin by marriage (if you can follow that one!) who did Y-DNA testing and has no matches from his mainland Portuguese ancestry. Of course, it's no surprise. But if we are to have any chance at finding family connections to mainland people, DNA
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can anyone decipher the year this individual died. I read he died in parish of
Sao Sebastao in Ponta Delgada and something about some fee and then a date but
I can't figure out if it says 4 June !(?) the year. If I could figure the USAR
I could go to the obits.
Any
Maria Elena,
You forgot to attach the link.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada
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