Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-10 Thread Ângela Loura
t;> goes in the roda, dad keeps it. I did find one record where the mom wasn’t >> listed, only the dad. >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> *From: *Cheri Mello >> *Sent: *Friday, March 8, 2019 12:15 PM >> *To: *Azores Genealogy

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-09 Thread Cheri Mello
oes in the roda, dad keeps it. I did find one record where the mom wasn’t > listed, only the dad. > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > *From: *Cheri Mello > *Sent: *Friday, March 8, 2019 12:15 PM > *To: *Azores Genealogy > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo in

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-09 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy
: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference? Sam,  One thing I noticed while indexing the Sao Jorge obits is that so many women who had children out of marriage were daughters of women who also had children out of wedlock Nancy Jean From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-09 Thread nancy jean baptiste
, 2019 10:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference? Interesting how they recorded this stuff. Cheri, or anyone, do you know if there was a stigma attached to the child or to the parents for that matter? I found it somewhat

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-09 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy
8, 2019 12:15 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference? The "adulterer" term isn't used as in today's definition. Basically, one (or both) parties were married. I have one record in my family where Francisco was single, Maria w

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-08 Thread Cheri Mello
The "adulterer" term isn't used as in today's definition. Basically, one (or both) parties were married. I have one record in my family where Francisco was single, Maria was married to So-and-So. Francisco and Maria had a baby. Francisco was listed as the adulterer. By today's definition, Maria

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-08 Thread JesseAndDeborah Mendonca
While they both translate to hidden, as in refuse to name; oculto definition includes not known. Could that be the difference? On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 9:31 AM Leonor Bertoni wrote: > Hi Sam, > I have wondered about all these terms as well. I have found that when the > priest says

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-08 Thread Leonor Bertoni
onor Bertoni > *Sent: *Friday, March 8, 2019 10:31 AM > *To: *Azores Genealogy > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference? > > > > Hi Sam, > > I have wondered about all these terms as well. I have found that when the > priest says &

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-08 Thread nancy jean baptiste
more Nancy Jean From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 12:27 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference? Leonor; In this case, no father was mentioned but; the husband’s name was listed

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-08 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy
To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference? Hi Sam, I have wondered about all these terms as well. I have found that when the priest says "adulterina" he usually also mentions a father. Someone once told me that it meant that the baby was

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-08 Thread Leonor Bertoni
Hi Sam, I have wondered about all these terms as well. I have found that when the priest says "adulterina" he usually also mentions a father. Someone once told me that it meant that the baby was conceived before marriage or the couple were not married at all. On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 12:12, 'Sam

[AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?

2019-03-08 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy
Happy Friday morning everyone; As I’ve been extracting baptisms/births, I have noticed that the same priest during the same time period will sometimes use Avo incognito and other times use Avo occult and on occasion simply state that it is “natural de” and the mother’s name with no mention at