RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-14 Thread pico
ochaholmes.com= Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland From: A Faria <antoniof1...@gmail.com> Date: Thu, August 14, 2014 5:43 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com From what I gather from what Rob

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-14 Thread A Faria
>From what I gather from what Roberta Estes states is that IBS can be just as useful in identifying which populations one descends from as IBD, the main difference being that IBS is picking up a distant common ancestor and IBD is generally considered to be picking up common ancestry in a genea

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-14 Thread Cheri Mello
You can't exactly see the sticky segment, but if enough people test, you can see a pattern on the Chromosome map. I've mentioned this before, but it's been awhile. Roberta Estes, genetic genealogist, explained it a couple of times in her blog: http://goo.gl/1TNuX4 and here: http://goo.gl/Gnrwm1

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-14 Thread pico
Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com========= ---- Original Message ---- Su

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-14 Thread Melinda
. Inversions though are a reason for you to have a long (in centiMorgans) segment in common with a distant cousin Melinda From: p...@dholmes.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:09:19 -0700 She

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-08 Thread A Faria
Hi Kalani I have six of those matches with people with primarily British ancestry sharing a total of 23-30 CM I will list the longest segments 9.71CM 8.35CM 8.4CM 7.85CM 8.32CM 8.74CM My father has three also sharing approximately the same total amount of shared CM. I will also list his longe

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-08 Thread Cheri Mello
The Melungeon theory and Portuguese was completely debunked. It was published in the Journal of Genetic Genealogy. Search Roberta Estes' blog on it. She probably wrote about it. I think she was one of the researchers involved or assisted the researchers. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Resea

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-08 Thread pico
e info: n...@rochaholmes.com= Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland From: Kalani N <mamoah...@gmail.com> Date: Fri, August 08, 2014 1:57 pm To: azores@googlegroups

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-08 Thread Kalani N
...@rochaholmes.com > ========= > > > Original Message > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British > Isles and Ireland > From: Kalani N > > Date: Fri, August 08, 2014 12:16 pm > To: azo...

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-08 Thread pico
eague. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com= Original Message ---- Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland From: Kalani N <mamoah...@gmail.com> Dat

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-08 Thread Kalani N
I'm aware of the Flemish and other groups that peopled the Azores, but this has always been my issue nearly a year now, where I believe some of this may be IBS (identity by state), although some people try to argue me against this. This would mean basically people have similar genes/allelles i

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-07 Thread A Faria
gt;> families of the Azores. But now we can add the Celts to that. >> >> Doug da Rocha Holmes >> Pico & Terceira Genealogist >> ========================= >> Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created >> Azores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-07 Thread Eliseu Pacheco
le for the Northern European features of many pioneer >> families of the Azores. But now we can add the Celts to that. >> >> Doug da Rocha Holmes >> Pico & Terceira Genealogist >> ===== >> Get ready for NFL Fantasy Foo

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-06 Thread pico
e: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland From: A Faria <antoniof1...@gmail.com> Date: Wed, August 06, 2014 6:01 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: antoniof1...@gmail.com, tomasl...@comcast.net Doug I am unable to identify anyone from the Silveira line in Graciosa that traces

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-06 Thread A Faria
I agree that the Portuguese have a substantial amount of Celtic ancestry evidenced by the frequency of Y-Dna R1b and MtDna H. But there hasn't been a significant amount of movement into Portugal from countries that are traditionally considered Celtic in a very long time. Although after the Si

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-06 Thread A Faria
for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores > Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. > Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com > = > > > Original Message > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-06 Thread A Faria
Tomas another fact that supports the Celtic heritage of the Portuguese is that when the Roman author Pliny the Elder in the first century described 25 tribes in the area of where the current borders of Portugal lie he considered all of them Celtic but one the Grovii he considered Greek. Antonio

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-05 Thread pico
== ---- Original Message ---- Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland From: A Faria <antoniof1...@gmail.com> Date: Tue, August 05, 2014 10:10 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi TomasMy understanding regarding the Silvei

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-05 Thread A Faria
Hi Tomas My understanding regarding the Silveira surname in the Azores is that all the lines except one on the island of Graciosa are believed to have originated from the Flemish. The one line from Graciosa is believed to have originated in the Alentejo region of mainland Portugal and traces fr

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-05 Thread Edna Epps
Thank you, Tomas! That was very interesting and informative! Edna dave-edna@comcast.netAnd suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying: "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, goodwill toward men!" Luke 2:13-14 On Aug 5, 2014, at 3:31

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-05 Thread pico
. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com= Original Message ---- Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland From: Tomas Leal <tomasl...@comcast.net> Date: T

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-05 Thread Liz Migliori
Wow that was good Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2014, at 5:15 AM, Tomas Leal wrote: > > I too was surprised that my Y-DNA results were simply "Celtic," which I've > always associated with Ireland and the British Isles--my mother's side. What > was more surprising is the long line of males

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-05 Thread MaryAnn Santos
Fascinating, Tomás On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Tomas Leal wrote: > I too was surprised that my Y-DNA results were simply "Celtic," which I've > always associated with Ireland and the British Isles--my mother's side. > What was more surprising is the long line of males on my paternal side--t

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches to the British Isles and Ireland

2014-08-05 Thread Tomas Leal
I too was surprised that my Y-DNA results were simply "Celtic," which I've always associated with Ireland and the British Isles--my mother's side. What was more surprising is the long line of males on my paternal side--the Y chromosome sources--coming up Celtic, so I was a bit confused. I dug i