[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to trace the last name Secia in the Azores

Hi Jeremy, Thanks for the information. I am going to go back through everything and work backward. I appreciate all the help and guidance from this group. Kim On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 3:36:11 PM UTC-7, Kim S wrote: > > Hello - I am hoping someone can help me or point me in the right

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to trace the last name Secia in the Azores

I am HIGHLY Skeptical that you have the right passenger list. Have you tken a look at this??? http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr=155211263=acom No name change if this is the person listed on passanger list. No idea I didnt make sure, but same unusual name... You need to go back

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You are right. Unfortunately 1902 and 1903 records are not available. It is important for you to get the basic birth and marriage for your GP and GGP to ensure you have the right base to start your research as recommended by Cheri Melo in other emails. By the way the name is Secio in the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to trace the last name Secia in the Azores

Hi Margaret, I think Manuel Jr age is 11 months not 11 years. It would match his DOB of Manuel Jr - May 25, 1903, if he left in May of 1904. Kim On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 1:05:07 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote: > > Hi Kim, > > I'm trying to help, however based on the birth year 1878 for Manuel

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to trace the last name Secia in the Azores

Hi Kim, I'm trying to help, however based on the birth year 1878 for Manuel Cecis (Ancestry Celio) Fonseca sailing on the ship Vancouver in 1903, bringing him to be 25 years old. Does the manifest state if he is married? Why I'm asking is because the 1904 Maria Bento M. Fonseca is 35 years old

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Here is the baptism record for the mother Maria... It starts on the page before and continues on this page. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1860-1869/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1860-1869_item1/P193.html I will try and do more on the father Manuel tomorrow if

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Hi Cheri, I know Manuel and Maria had the follow children, Mary J, Maria, Manuel Jr,. and Antone. I wasn't 100% when they actually immigrated because the date kept changing on the census information so depending on when they came is the only way to know which children were born in the US. Since

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You said your immigrant ancestors had 2 children: Anthony and Manuel. Sounds like things don't match. I thought you told me they married in America. Then had kids. This woman married there and had kids there. Maybe she married there had more in America too. The census info you provided never

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Hi Cheri, E (not sure his real name) found the ships the came over on. He sent me the information in a private email. I'm not sure how he found it on Ancestry. Here is the information which lead me to the Passportes List. - Maria Bento M. Fonseca came to the U. S. on the ship "S.S. Canopic

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to trace the last name Secia in the Azores

Hi Mara and E, Wow there are ALOT of Marias and Manuels in this family Thank you for all the help! So the next step is to look at the baptism records for the 3 children in Faial da Terra, Povoacao? On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 3:36:11 PM UTC-7, Kim S wrote: > > Hello - I am hoping

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Kim, Why a Maria Bento de Mello? She is a married woman, born c. 1869, with 3 children already. What research in America has lead you to a Maria Bento de Mello? Why not a Maria de Jesus Mello? Why not Maria de Simas de Mello, #719?

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Margaret, Good pointI did not notice they were travelling on the same passport...duh!! "E" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Elaine, seeing they're travelling on the same passport, they in all probabilities are related. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:15 PM, "E" Sharp wrote: > ​Margaret, > > Thanks, I thought so but was not sure it was a Z. I cannot read these > recordsno hownever

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​Margaret, Thanks, I thought so but was not sure it was a Z. I cannot read these recordsno hownever havenever will, I guess. I do think she is related somehow to Maria Bento Mello. "E"​ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores

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Elaine, reading it as Maria Rosa On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:10 PM, "E" Sharp wrote: > Margaret and Kim, > > Bingo!! I knew this list would come through for her. Now we can go > looking for the kids baptism records. Margaret did you notice the Maria > after son Manuel...is

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Margaret and Kim, Bingo!! I knew this list would come through for her. Now we can go looking for the kids baptism records. Margaret did you notice the Maria after son Manuel...is she Maria Rosa or Maria ?? and I think she is related somehow but not sure how "E" -- You received this

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sorry, missed out on travel companion part. She had 3 children: Maria, Maria and Manuel. Ages: 3, 2 11 respectively. It does not name the father of the children. Under the same passport # 617, passenger # 1333 Maria Roza (Rosa) 37 years old. Parents Manuel Fonseca and Maria Bento. On Wed,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to trace the last name Secia in the Azores

Hi Kim, She came from Faial da Terra, Povoacao. She was married, 35 years old Parents: Manuel Pereira and Maria de Melo On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Kim S wrote: > Hello All, > > I found my great-grand mother on the Passportes List, but can not read > where she came

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to trace the last name Secia in the Azores

Hello All, I found my great-grand mother on the Passportes List, but can not read where she came from. Also the name of her travel companion. Any help would be greatly appreciated! It's the line with entry 617 (1329-1333) - Maria Bento de Mello.

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Hi Mara, I found one Secia in Portugal born in 1890 and died in 1979 in Lisbon. He is also Manuel Secia and came to the US for a brief period but lived most of his life on the mainland of Portugal. He has one reminding grandson Joao and a great grandson Pedro. I am in contact with Pedro. He

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to trace the last name Secia in the Azores

HI, Your post made on Fonseca caught my interest, I am also looking for Fonseca. I was always told that my Great Great Grandfather was Fonseca, and when he came over to this country he changed his name to Cardoza. Why, no one knows. My Aunt who is still living says her Mother was names

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Hi, Yes, Sécia is used as a last name. There's someone with this name on Face Book. It is also the name of a flower, cultivated in most gardens and backyards on the islands, sécias, could spot them a distance away for their bright colours, pinks, oranges and purple. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at

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Is it possible that "Cecis" is mis-transcribed? Couldn't the name have been Manuel Cecia Fonseca, and then the spelling of "Cecia" changed to "Secia"? The sound would have been the same. Linda On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 2:21:55 PM UTC-8, "E" Sharp wrote: > > John, > > It was a great

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E, You are amazing! Thank you s much! Kim On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 2:25:20 PM UTC-7, "E" Sharp wrote: > > Kim, > > They came to the U. S. under the surname Fonseca. Maybe they used the > Secia (note FonSECA) in the U. S. I am going to send you further > information to you

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John, It was a great guess on my part but I found their ship's records to the U. S. it lists his name as Manuel Cecis Fonseca so maybe this is where he it comes from. I am trying to find him on Passportes. He came from Sao Miguel on the ship Vancouver arriving in Boston May 23, 1903. Any help

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That is a great hypothesis and I bet it will prove out to be the case. Fonseca, ''seca...secia". If it turns out to be the case let us know. Fact is often stranger than fiction. John On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 4:25 PM, "E" Sharp" wrote: Kim, They came to the

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Kim, They came to the U. S. under the surname Fonseca. Maybe they used the Secia (note FonSECA) in the U. S. I am going to send you further information to you personal email address. "E" On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Kim S wrote: > Hi E! > > I found that publication and

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Have you found any of their ship's record coming into the US? "E" Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Hi E! I found that publication and added the pictures to my tree on MyHeritage. The only Secias in the US are from Manuel's two sons Anthony and Manuel Jr. I'm trying to find the name in the Azores and that's the road block. Thanks for looking into the name for me! Kim On Wednesday, January

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Google the Early Settlere of Mattapoisett Book 2 search Secia and you will see Mary's De Mello grandmother came from Sao Miguel, Azores. Interesting story and many pictures of the family. "E" Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

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Are they they ones in MA who came to US him 1902 her 1903. Maybe the ships record may say where the came from or give you more accurate data to find them in Passportes?? "E" Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy"

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to trace the last name Secia in the Azores

Hi - I am unsure where they originated from, I only know the Azores right now. I saw Sao Miguel on a US Census but they could have just left from there. Cheri said from my DNA the middle islands are the most likely. On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 8:19:23 AM UTC-7, EResendes wrote: > > Do

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to trace the last name Secia in the Azores

Do you know where he was from. I have seen Secio (nickname) in Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel but it isn't very common. On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 5:36:11 PM UTC-5, Kim S wrote: > > Hello - I am hoping someone can help me or point me in the right > direction. > > My great-grand parents