RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with names in this record
Looks Manuel Cesar Furtado got it right! MNK -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word
On the left side for the marriage of Antonio de Lima and Francisca Roza, can someone decipher the very first word on the seventh sentence from the bottom(?)please?It looks like namebo (?) The sentence just before that word gives the name of Francisca's father. It says Manoel de Sousa then the first word on the next sentence is what stumps me. I don't know if it's his profession (?) then it continues to says he,( Manoel ) deceased. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P23.html Thank you. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Andre de Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17??
Thanks Marcio, In relooking at the records this morning I see how I was off, a more careful examination of the surrounding records confirm you are correct. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcio Borba Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:58 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Andre de Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17?? It is March 6 1687. Sebastião Roiz son of Pedro Roiz Crespo and Luzia da Costa with Isabel Carvalha daughter of André Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com/ Em Quinta-feira, 13 de Fevereiro de 2014 19:48, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net escreveu: I think I just found another daughter of Andre Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1 713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P37.html upper left. A marriage on 6 Mar 1686 Sebastiao Perreira son of of Pedro Perreira ? and Luzia de ? wed Isabel Carvalha daughter of Andre Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreria. It is hard for me to read so another set of eyes would help. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:01 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Andre de Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17?? This discussion of this couple was started under another thread but I thought it is worth continuing in a new thread. I have been trying to reconcile this couple Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira who are my 7th great grandparents with Carlos Machado and the records I have found. Machado lists Andre Carvalho Benevedes b. about 1637 married to Beatriz Ferreira b. about 1637 Married about 1680. He also lists two daughters Marianna Carvalho b. about 1657 and Beatriz Ferreira b about 1677. Obvious these dates are incorrect. Machado also has Marianna Carvalho b. 1657 marrying to Manuel Rodrigues 28 Mar 1677 in Ginetes. I found this record for Marianna Carvalho and Manuel Rodrigues: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1 713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P27.html The date is 28 Mar 1677 Manuel Rodrigues son of Pedro Rodrigues and Isabel Moreira (dec) with Marianna Carvalha daughter of Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira. He also has Beatriz Ferreira marrying Pedro de Sousa 30 Oct 1707 in Ginetes. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1 713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P62.html The date is 30 Oct 1704 Pedro de Sousa son of Francisco Gonsalves and Catherina de Sousa wed Beatriz Ferreria daughter of Andre Carvalho de Benevedes and Beatriz Ferreira. Machado had 30 Oct 1707. At this point I will say that the Machado I am using is from the disk that was transcribed by Rev Viverios. The true accuracy needs to be determined by looking at the original manuscript. Needless to say it is useful in searches. I have also found this record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1 713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P75.html The date is 6 Nov 1705 Joam Carvalho son of Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira weds Lucia Martins the daughter of Joao Martins and Aguela Rodrigues. This marriage was not in Machado. At this point I have Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira with 3 children Marianna, Joam and Beatriz. All three married I know Joao had descendants. The birth range of the three children seems to be from 1657 to 1683 a span of 26 years. With Marianna being born around 1657 and Beatriz being born around 1683 (based on marriages). Because of the range I would make a safe assumption that Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira were married around 1657 placing their births around 1635. Care needs to be taken when sorting out these records in the book 1646-1713 for Sao Sebastiao in Ginetes as the names Carvalho, Rodrigues, Sousa are numerous and easy to confuse. What I have above appears correct according to the records . Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with names in this record
Cândido, son of Francisco Jose Botelho and Januaria Jacinta, natives of S. Roque do Rosto de Cão, paternal grandaughter of Jose Francisco Botelho and Genoveva Rosa, and maternal of Manuel de Benevides and Sebastiana da Conceiçao Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Quinta-feira, 13 de Fevereiro de 2014 12:14, Erica Botelho audiosource...@qwestoffice.net escreveu: Hi Aaron, Joze Francisco and Francisca Candida are my husbands 4th great grandparents. I have been saving the records for their siblings along with their records. As names are recorded slightly different on different records, I find I do better by creating a large base before moving to the next generation. I am also hoping to find someone who has researched some of the same people and share records. I would love to know about any records you find that are relevant for Joze Francisco and Genoveva Rosa or their descendants. Thank you so much, Erica Botelho From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Pereira Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:12 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with names in this record Hello, I couldn't make out the name, so I found another child of theirs. Baptism is for Francisco, top, left side. http://goo.gl/90X0Nf It looks like Jinovea, or a form of Genoveva. The paternal grandmother's name is also some form of Genoveva, but her name clearly starts with a G. Paternal grandparents are Joze Francisco Botelho and Genoveta? Genoveva? Roza, maternal grandparents are Manoel de Benevides and Sebastiana da Conceicao. I'm glad I looked up this record because there are many families from Rabo de Peixe in these particular years. This where my family is from...and I think I may have found a record of my 3rd great grandparents (maternal side, da Silva)...maybe, but I'm still a long way off from confirming this. Here is what I will do, since I'm going through these records looking for family, if I see any more records for children of Francisco Joze Botelho, I'll post them here. Btw, I also found a record for a Joze Francisco Botelho married to a Francisca Candida...with the same paternal grandparents. Its only four pages back from the baptism I posted above, bottom right side of page. Baptism for Manoel. http://goo.gl/jXkGuF On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:59:39 PM UTC-8, audiosourceinc wrote: I cannot make out the mother’s name for the entry in the top left corner for “Candida”. I also need help with both maternal grandparents’ names. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1834-1843/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1834-1843_item1/P70.html Thanks, Erica -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo
For people related to me and this couple (Shirley Allegre, Altino DeMelo, etc) I found the deaths Amaro de Medeiros, b. 1747 d. 1823 (death lower right) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.htmlhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860_item1/P40.html Vicencia de Pimentel, b. 1745, d.1815 (death upper left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P126.html -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo
Um, the link to Amaro SAYS Sao Miguel Arcanjo, but it took me to Achada! I hate Windows 8 (so I'll just blame that). Here's Amaro's death: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.html On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: For people related to me and this couple (Shirley Allegre, Altino DeMelo, etc) I found the deaths Amaro de Medeiros, b. 1747 d. 1823 (death lower right) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.htmlhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860_item1/P40.html Vicencia de Pimentel, b. 1745, d.1815 (death upper left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P126.html -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word
Its Tramocinho Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Sexta-feira, 14 de Fevereiro de 2014 10:59, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com escreveu: On the left side for the marriage of Antonio de Lima and Francisca Roza, can someone decipher the very first word on the seventh sentence from the bottom(?)please? It looks like namebo (?) The sentence just before that word gives the name of Francisca's father. It says Manoel de Sousa then the first word on the next sentence is what stumps me. I don't know if it's his profession (?) then it continues to says he,( Manoel ) deceased. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P23.html Thank you. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo
Wah hoo! Rosemarie From: Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:10 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo For people related to me and this couple (Shirley Allegre, Altino DeMelo, etc) I found the deaths Amaro de Medeiros, b. 1747 d. 1823 (death lower right) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.html Vicencia de Pimentel, b. 1745, d.1815 (death upper left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P126.html -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word
Oh- thank you Marcio. I had forgotten to make note of that for the DeSousa's. Do you know if they used that tremocinho to differentiate someone from a particular region named de Sousa or an occupation maybe? I have seen the word on other De Sousa's but not sure if that means they're related somehow. Again- thank you-( I can't imagine how you were able to read that) :) Maria Elena On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: Its Tramocinho Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Sexta-feira, 14 de Fevereiro de 2014 10:59, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com escreveu: On the left side for the marriage of Antonio de Lima and Francisca Roza, can someone decipher the very first word on the seventh sentence from the bottom(?)please?It looks like namebo (?) The sentence just before that word gives the name of Francisca's father. It says Manoel de Sousa then the first word on the next sentence is what stumps me. I don't know if it's his profession (?) then it continues to says he,( Manoel ) deceased. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P23.html Thank you. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS - Pico families
As I understand the project, groups of graduate students deciphered the parish books and entered them into a database. The relationships were determined by the algorithim of the program they were entered into. The human intervention has corrected many of the inconsistancies. You will find the ability to modify the notes , helping to fix the errors. At the bottom of the each parish group page you can see the links: *You can:* *add a family* *modify the notes* Eric Edgar On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:53 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Yea, Rosemarie. What gets me is understanding the thought process of why a person's birth is listed by NEPS but without any parents when both parents are stated. They have made the terrible decision to not name the parents when the father is incognito. I wonder why. Sometimes they get too confused, it seems, and just give up and don't list the parents when they are clearly written in the marriage record. I have been working a lot on the Ribeiras, Pico records where there is that very large gap in the marriages of the 1700s. This gap has led to so many mistakes by NEPS. And where is the logic when the mother is having children in her 60s or older? There are some instances where couples with similar names are not distinguished and so they lump all the kids into one family, sometime resulting in siblings just a month or so apart. Pretty good trick, I think. One needs to use a large amount of caution especially when linking the families they have linked together. And when you see a person with many names that don't agree with the record you are verifying, use extreme caution or you'll end up with garbage for a family tree. I have found many new cousins who are descendants of my remote ancestors in Ribeiras, so this is very satisfying to me. My goal is to bridge the gap for all families there and I have been very successful so far. If anyone is stuck with their Ribeiras, Pico ancestors and want to learn their older ancestors beyond the gap in the 1700s, feel free to contact me for professional help. For that matter, anywhere on Pico or Terceira is where I specialize. And for general interest, you can find many interesting things of value to the researcher on my website below. And I wonder how many people with Faial ancestors realize it's practically a guarantee they also have many Pico ancestors as you trace them back in time. In fact, I would be surprised if there is even one person who can tell me their Faial ancestor born in the 1800s has no links back to Pico. Good luck. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria From: rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com Date: Thu, February 13, 2014 11:53 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Who knows Diane. You just have to keep verifying things from the original documents. There are many errors in the NEPS database but at least it's a place to start your search. Good luck! Rosemarie *From:* Diane Geoge digeorg...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:46 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria Thanks. I think you are right. It's funny that it appears that way in two databases--must have been the same person analyzing it. I have more mysteries with this line, but I will keep going to see if I can solve them. Diane *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *rcapodc *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:56 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria Diane, It's Manuel Ferreira and sua mulher (his wife) Maria Theresa! Whoever extracted the info took the sua as a surname! Rosemarie *From:* Diane Geoge digeorg...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:27 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria Hi, I located this record on CCA, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1748-1775/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1748-1775_item1/P292.html. The record I am interested in is on the upper right side. I believe it is for Maria, daughter of Manuel ? and Maria Teresa. The name that is causing difficulty is that of the father. In the NEPS database for Madalena and for Sao Mateus/Sao Caetano, he is listed as Manuel Ferreira Surra, but the last name looks more like an abbreviated version of Silva or Silveira to me. The middle name is also abbreviated and I am not sure if the abbreviation is for Ferreira or Faria. Any help would be appreciated. Diane George -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Faial da Terra ancestors
These folks are my direct ancestors. I have all their children, at least all I could find. They're on Ancestry.com if you have access. I can also provide them through private email or through this group. Let me know what's best. David On Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:02:03 AM UTC-7, JR wrote: Does anyone who wishes to exchange information have this couple in their database?: Manuel Cabral and Maria Raposo natives and married in Faial da Terra (?)circa 1748-66. Two of their children appear and marry in Ponta Garca, in 1788 and 1789. JR -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero
The google dictionary says: Hacker. How would that fit in to their lifestyle? Could it be like a lumberjack. This person was a Cabouquiero then later in baptismal records of his children, his profession is proprietero. Is proprietero a land/property owner? The google translation says it means owner. Thanks for any insight. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo
Cheri I just looked at your 2 posts. I used each link even those for Amaro, they look alike in appearance. These are the records that they brought up. 1 email for Amaro Achada, Óbitos 1854-1860 0040 for Vicencia São Miguel, Óbitos 1806-1832 0126 2 email for Amaro São Miguel, Óbitos 1806-1832 0299 I am not sure how you are so talented. I guess each of us will need to check the links we post to make sure it does link to the correct document. Marilyn On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Um, the link to Amaro SAYS Sao Miguel Arcanjo, but it took me to Achada! I hate Windows 8 (so I'll just blame that). Here's Amaro's death: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.html On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: For people related to me and this couple (Shirley Allegre, Altino DeMelo, etc) I found the deaths Amaro de Medeiros, b. 1747 d. 1823 (death lower right) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.htmlhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860_item1/P40.html Vicencia de Pimentel, b. 1745, d.1815 (death upper left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P126.html -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo
Marilyn, I did this last night. Well, let me back up. When I went to work, I finally allowed Windows to update to 8.1. Then I came home and started to do some genealogy. My pointer froze up twice. I couldn't get it to unstick, so I had to shut the power off and reboot. When it did it again the second time, I gave up and watched the Olympics. So I'm guessing that this a.m. it remembered the other link from the Achada records I was working with earlier. So it's Windows 8.1. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.comwrote: Cheri I just looked at your 2 posts. I used each link even those for Amaro, they look alike in appearance. These are the records that they brought up. 1 email for Amaro Achada, Óbitos 1854-1860 0040 for Vicencia São Miguel, Óbitos 1806-1832 0126 2 email for Amaro São Miguel, Óbitos 1806-1832 0299 I am not sure how you are so talented. I guess each of us will need to check the links we post to make sure it does link to the correct document. Marilyn On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Um, the link to Amaro SAYS Sao Miguel Arcanjo, but it took me to Achada! I hate Windows 8 (so I'll just blame that). Here's Amaro's death: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.html On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: For people related to me and this couple (Shirley Allegre, Altino DeMelo, etc) I found the deaths Amaro de Medeiros, b. 1747 d. 1823 (death lower right) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.htmlhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860_item1/P40.html Vicencia de Pimentel, b. 1745, d.1815 (death upper left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P126.html -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS - Pico families
Doug, My family traces back to Ribeiras also. Silveira, Soares, Cardoso, Pereira, Melo, Fiahlo, Goulart. I have them back to the early 1700s. Private mail me to collaborate. Eric Edgar On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:53 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Yea, Rosemarie. What gets me is understanding the thought process of why a person's birth is listed by NEPS but without any parents when both parents are stated. They have made the terrible decision to not name the parents when the father is incognito. I wonder why. Sometimes they get too confused, it seems, and just give up and don't list the parents when they are clearly written in the marriage record. I have been working a lot on the Ribeiras, Pico records where there is that very large gap in the marriages of the 1700s. This gap has led to so many mistakes by NEPS. And where is the logic when the mother is having children in her 60s or older? There are some instances where couples with similar names are not distinguished and so they lump all the kids into one family, sometime resulting in siblings just a month or so apart. Pretty good trick, I think. One needs to use a large amount of caution especially when linking the families they have linked together. And when you see a person with many names that don't agree with the record you are verifying, use extreme caution or you'll end up with garbage for a family tree. I have found many new cousins who are descendants of my remote ancestors in Ribeiras, so this is very satisfying to me. My goal is to bridge the gap for all families there and I have been very successful so far. If anyone is stuck with their Ribeiras, Pico ancestors and want to learn their older ancestors beyond the gap in the 1700s, feel free to contact me for professional help. For that matter, anywhere on Pico or Terceira is where I specialize. And for general interest, you can find many interesting things of value to the researcher on my website below. And I wonder how many people with Faial ancestors realize it's practically a guarantee they also have many Pico ancestors as you trace them back in time. In fact, I would be surprised if there is even one person who can tell me their Faial ancestor born in the 1800s has no links back to Pico. Good luck. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria From: rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com Date: Thu, February 13, 2014 11:53 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Who knows Diane. You just have to keep verifying things from the original documents. There are many errors in the NEPS database but at least it's a place to start your search. Good luck! Rosemarie *From:* Diane Geoge digeorg...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:46 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria Thanks. I think you are right. It's funny that it appears that way in two databases--must have been the same person analyzing it. I have more mysteries with this line, but I will keep going to see if I can solve them. Diane *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *rcapodc *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:56 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria Diane, It's Manuel Ferreira and sua mulher (his wife) Maria Theresa! Whoever extracted the info took the sua as a surname! Rosemarie *From:* Diane Geoge digeorg...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:27 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria Hi, I located this record on CCA, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1748-1775/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1748-1775_item1/P292.html. The record I am interested in is on the upper right side. I believe it is for Maria, daughter of Manuel ? and Maria Teresa. The name that is causing difficulty is that of the father. In the NEPS database for Madalena and for Sao Mateus/Sao Caetano, he is listed as Manuel Ferreira Surra, but the last name looks more like an abbreviated version of Silva or Silveira to me. The middle name is also abbreviated and I am not sure if the abbreviation is for Ferreira or Faria. Any help would be appreciated. Diane George -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo
I have not moved to Windows 8. Until I see a real reason that is important to me I am not changing. Somewhere down the line I may make the change or I will skip in entirely, like I did Vista On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Marilyn, I did this last night. Well, let me back up. When I went to work, I finally allowed Windows to update to 8.1. Then I came home and started to do some genealogy. My pointer froze up twice. I couldn't get it to unstick, so I had to shut the power off and reboot. When it did it again the second time, I gave up and watched the Olympics. So I'm guessing that this a.m. it remembered the other link from the Achada records I was working with earlier. So it's Windows 8.1. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.comwrote: Cheri I just looked at your 2 posts. I used each link even those for Amaro, they look alike in appearance. These are the records that they brought up. 1 email for Amaro Achada, Óbitos 1854-1860 0040 for Vicencia São Miguel, Óbitos 1806-1832 0126 2 email for Amaro São Miguel, Óbitos 1806-1832 0299 I am not sure how you are so talented. I guess each of us will need to check the links we post to make sure it does link to the correct document. Marilyn On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Um, the link to Amaro SAYS Sao Miguel Arcanjo, but it took me to Achada! I hate Windows 8 (so I'll just blame that). Here's Amaro's death: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.html On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.comwrote: For people related to me and this couple (Shirley Allegre, Altino DeMelo, etc) I found the deaths Amaro de Medeiros, b. 1747 d. 1823 (death lower right) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.htmlhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1854-1860_item1/P40.html Vicencia de Pimentel, b. 1745, d.1815 (death upper left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P126.html -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members
I'd guess that there are 4 or 5 churches named Sao Jose in the Azores. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] family members
Hello group members: Wondering if someone can help me. I am trying to tie in a family group and can not find the records of siblings. Either I am missing something or looking in the wrong places. I am just learning to read the records and have to admit I have a hard time. I am looking for the birth records for three brothers in the parish of Sao Jose. Father is Jose Pereira and mother is Ana Isabel de Teves. Joseph probably Jose Pereira, (Jan 1860) Marion Pereira( Feb 1866) and Manuel Augustine Pereira (July 10, 1870.) Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks Geneva -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS - Pico families
Doug, I know, it is so frustrating when using the NEPS site because of the pai incognito and other things! Everyone using the site just needs to be very careful about accepting what is there. They need to verify through the original documents when possible. I helped a friend, a couple of weeks ago, look for a marriage record. When we found the record it stated that the marrying couple were cousins! That is a very important piece of information to have that was not shown on the index. I guess it’s like any other index, use it as a guide and look for yourself! Rosemarie From: luiznoia . Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:39 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS - Pico families Doug, My family traces back to Ribeiras also. Silveira, Soares, Cardoso, Pereira, Melo, Fiahlo, Goulart. I have them back to the early 1700s. Private mail me to collaborate. Eric Edgar On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:53 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Yea, Rosemarie. What gets me is understanding the thought process of why a person's birth is listed by NEPS but without any parents when both parents are stated. They have made the terrible decision to not name the parents when the father is incognito. I wonder why. Sometimes they get too confused, it seems, and just give up and don't list the parents when they are clearly written in the marriage record. I have been working a lot on the Ribeiras, Pico records where there is that very large gap in the marriages of the 1700s. This gap has led to so many mistakes by NEPS. And where is the logic when the mother is having children in her 60s or older? There are some instances where couples with similar names are not distinguished and so they lump all the kids into one family, sometime resulting in siblings just a month or so apart. Pretty good trick, I think. One needs to use a large amount of caution especially when linking the families they have linked together. And when you see a person with many names that don't agree with the record you are verifying, use extreme caution or you'll end up with garbage for a family tree. I have found many new cousins who are descendants of my remote ancestors in Ribeiras, so this is very satisfying to me. My goal is to bridge the gap for all families there and I have been very successful so far. If anyone is stuck with their Ribeiras, Pico ancestors and want to learn their older ancestors beyond the gap in the 1700s, feel free to contact me for professional help. For that matter, anywhere on Pico or Terceira is where I specialize. And for general interest, you can find many interesting things of value to the researcher on my website below. And I wonder how many people with Faial ancestors realize it's practically a guarantee they also have many Pico ancestors as you trace them back in time. In fact, I would be surprised if there is even one person who can tell me their Faial ancestor born in the 1800s has no links back to Pico. Good luck. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria From: rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com Date: Thu, February 13, 2014 11:53 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Who knows Diane. You just have to keep verifying things from the original documents. There are many errors in the NEPS database but at least it’s a place to start your search. Good luck! Rosemarie From: Diane Geoge Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:46 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria Thanks. I think you are right. It’s funny that it appears that way in two databases—must have been the same person analyzing it. I have more mysteries with this line, but I will keep going to see if I can solve them. Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rcapodc Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:56 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria Diane, It’s Manuel Ferreira and sua mulher (his wife) Maria Theresa! Whoever extracted the info took the sua as a surname! Rosemarie From: Diane Geoge Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:27 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Maria Hi, I located this record on CCA, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1748-1775/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1748-1775_item1/P292.html. The record I am interested in is on the upper right side. I believe it is for Maria, daughter of Manuel ? and Maria Teresa. The name that is causing difficulty is that of the father. In the NEPS database for Madalena and for Sao Mateus/Sao Caetano, he is listed as Manuel
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members
The sister's birth record says parish of Sao Jose, city of Ponta D elgada, island of Sao Miguel, Diocese of Angra - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:03:32 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members I'd guess that there are 4 or 5 churches named Sao Jose in the Azores. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero
:) Hacker! hehe! Sorry, its funny! Maria, Cabouqueiro could be a man who works on lands with a hoe! Proprietario is Owner. They were classified as someone who owned the lands! Cheers On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote: The google dictionary says: Hacker. How would that fit in to their lifestyle? Could it be like a lumberjack. This person was a Cabouquiero then later in baptismal records of his children, his profession is proprietero. Is proprietero a land/property owner? The google translation says it means owner. Thanks for any insight. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with Faial parish name
Hi, it works again, thanks :) m On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rodney, reads: natural of of this church of Nossa Senhora da Graça in Faial (Faial da Terra). On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Rodney Figueiredo rodn...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks to everyone for their help. I think I was able to find his birth record and luckily, it includes the names of his grandparents. I'm still going to go through the rest of the records (this was on page 3 of the book!), but I think this is his birth record. I'm just going to go through the rest to rule any other possibilities out. The mother's name doesn't include Medeiros like on his marriage record, but it wouldn't be the first time I saw a record missing a part of a person's name. I suppose it's also possible she married after his birth to someone with the last name of Medeiros. culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P3.html Rodney On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:28:13 PM UTC-5, Rodney Figueiredo wrote: I found a marriage record for one of my ancestors Manoel de Medeiros in Vila Franca do Campo in 1747. It mentions that his mother Antonia Raposa de Medeiros was from somewhere in Faial, but I can't quite make out the parish name. Any help would be appreciated. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763_item1/P40.html Thanks, Rodney -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero
Hi Maria, Here's from PORTO Editor dictionary: cabouqueiro Masculin name 1. o que abre caboucos 1. one who digs/excavates 2. cavador 2. fits the definition given by Ricardo, one who works with a hoe 3. indivíduo que trabalha em minas ou pedreiras 3. a person who works the mines or quarries 4.pioneiro4. pioneer/digger On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.comwrote: The google dictionary says: Hacker. How would that fit in to their lifestyle? Could it be like a lumberjack. This person was a Cabouquiero then later in baptismal records of his children, his profession is proprietero. Is proprietero a land/property owner? The google translation says it means owner. Thanks for any insight. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero
Maria, trying again: Here's from PORTO Editorial dictionary: cabouqueiro Masculin name 1.o que abre caboucos 1. one who digs/excavates2.cavador2. fits the definition given by Ricardo, one who works with a hoe 3.indivíduo que trabalha em minas ou pedreiras3. a person who works the mines or quarries 4.pioneiro4. pioneer/digger On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.comwrote: The google dictionary says: Hacker. How would that fit in to their lifestyle? Could it be like a lumberjack. This person was a Cabouquiero then later in baptismal records of his children, his profession is proprietero. Is proprietero a land/property owner? The google translation says it means owner. Thanks for any insight. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero
Here's from PORTO Editorial dictionary: cabouqueiro Masculin name 1. o que abre caboucos 1. one who digs/excavates 2. cavador 2. fits the definition given by Ricardo, one who works with a hoe 3. indivíduo que trabalha em minas ou pedreiras 3. a person who works the mines or quarries 4. pioneiro 4. pioneer/digger cabouqueiro In Infopédia [Em linha]. Porto: Porto Editora, 2003-2014. [Consult. 2014-02-14]. Disponível na www: URL: http://www.infopedia.pt/lingua-portuguesa/cabouqueiro;jsessionid=oMHlT7n7-NJkNIR1MkHe0Q__ . On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Maria, trying again: Here's from PORTO Editorial dictionary: cabouqueiro Masculin name 1.o que abre caboucos 1. one who digs/excavates 2.cavador 2. fits the definition given by Ricardo, one who works with a hoe 3.indivíduo que trabalha em minas ou pedreiras 3. a person who works the mines or quarries 4.pioneiro 4. pioneer/digger On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.comwrote: The google dictionary says: Hacker. How would that fit in to their lifestyle? Could it be like a lumberjack. This person was a Cabouquiero then later in baptismal records of his children, his profession is proprietero. Is proprietero a land/property owner? The google translation says it means owner. Thanks for any insight. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members
Unfortunately there is no easy way to search. You have to go through each record looking. I would focus on one part of the record where it gives the father’s name. If it is a Perreira then see if it is one of the three brothers then look and see if the rest matches (mothers name and grandparents). Once you go through a few records you will get the hang of just where to look to find the Father’s name quickly. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ggervais1...@centurylink.net Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:48 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members Hello group members: Wondering if someone can help me. I am trying to tie in a family group and can not find the records of siblings. Either I am missing something or looking in the wrong places. I am just learning to read the records and have to admit I have a hard time. I am looking for the birth records for three brothers in the parish of Sao Jose. Father is Jose Pereira and mother is Ana Isabel de Teves. Joseph probably Jose Pereira, (Jan 1860) Marion Pereira( Feb 1866) and Manuel Augustine Pereira (July 10, 1870.) Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks Geneva -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word
No problem. I believe Tremocinho would have been a nickname that could have very well turned into a surname to diferenciate him or an ancestor from other with same name. The only word that I can associate with Tremocinho is Tremoço. Now Tremoço in portuguese means Lupine Bean I guess Tremocinho would be little Lupine Bean (the termination inho in portuguese means something smaller) Examples: Cão - Cãozinho (Dog - little dog) Barco - Barquinho (Boat - little boat) I hope I wasnt 2 confusing :) I have the advantage of being born and raised in Portugal so the language is easy for me. Reading and writting portuguese to me is like English to you :) Plus almost 20 years reading old records makes things much easier :) Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Sexta-feira, 14 de Fevereiro de 2014 11:39, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com escreveu: Oh- thank you Marcio. I had forgotten to make note of that for the DeSousa's. Do you know if they used that tremocinho to differentiate someone from a particular region named de Sousa or an occupation maybe? I have seen the word on other De Sousa's but not sure if that means they're related somehow. Again- thank you-( I can't imagine how you were able to read that) :) Maria Elena On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: Its Tramocinho Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Sexta-feira, 14 de Fevereiro de 2014 10:59, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com escreveu: On the left side for the marriage of Antonio de Lima and Francisca Roza, can someone decipher the very first word on the seventh sentence from the bottom(?)please? It looks like namebo (?) The sentence just before that word gives the name of Francisca's father. It says Manoel de Sousa then the first word on the next sentence is what stumps me. I don't know if it's his profession (?) then it continues to says he,( Manoel ) deceased. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P23.html Thank you. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word
Marcio- thanks for the explanation on Tramocinho. Now I'm wondering how I enter the name In the genealogy program- Manoel --de Sousa Tramocinho- maybe put the de Sousa Tramocinho in the box for the last name. (?) Maria Elena On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: No problem. I believe Tremocinho would have been a nickname that could have very well turned into a surname to diferenciate him or an ancestor from other with same name. The only word that I can associate with Tremocinho is Tremoço. Now Tremoço in portuguese means Lupine Bean I guess Tremocinho would be little Lupine Bean (the termination inho in portuguese means something smaller) Examples: Cão - Cãozinho (Dog - little dog) Barco - Barquinho (Boat - little boat) I hope I wasnt 2 confusing :) I have the advantage of being born and raised in Portugal so the language is easy for me. Reading and writting portuguese to me is like English to you :) Plus almost 20 years reading old records makes things much easier :) Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Sexta-feira, 14 de Fevereiro de 2014 11:39, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com escreveu: Oh- thank you Marcio. I had forgotten to make note of that for the DeSousa's. Do you know if they used that tremocinho to differentiate someone from a particular region named de Sousa or an occupation maybe? I have seen the word on other De Sousa's but not sure if that means they're related somehow. Again- thank you-( I can't imagine how you were able to read that) :) Maria Elena On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: Its Tramocinho Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Sexta-feira, 14 de Fevereiro de 2014 10:59, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com escreveu: On the left side for the marriage of Antonio de Lima and Francisca Roza, can someone decipher the very first word on the seventh sentence from the bottom(?)please?It looks like namebo (?) The sentence just before that word gives the name of Francisca's father. It says Manoel de Sousa then the first word on the next sentence is what stumps me. I don't know if it's his profession (?) then it continues to says he,( Manoel ) deceased. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P23.html Thank you. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members
Joao Ventura is going to be kind enough to do some research for me and see what he comes up with. I can't seem to find what I am looking for then again I can barely read Portuguese. I checked allot of records today but I came up with nothing even going one by one. I'm not sure I'm even looking in the right area. Thanks for your ideas I will keep trying. - Original Message - From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 4:12:16 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members Unfortunately there is no easy way to search. You have to go through each record looking. I would focus on one part of the record where it gives the father’s name. If it is a Perreira then see if it is one of the three brothers then look and see if the rest matches (mothers name and grandparents). Once you go through a few records you will get the hang of just where to look to find the Father’s name quickly. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ggervais1...@centurylink.net Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:48 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members Hello group members: Wondering if someone can help me. I am trying to tie in a family group and can not find the records of siblings. Either I am missing something or looking in the wrong places. I am just learning to read the records and have to admit I have a hard time. I am looking for the birth records for three brothers in the parish of Sao Jose. Father is Jose Pereira and mother is Ana Isabel de Teves. Joseph probably Jose Pereira, (Jan 1860) Marion Pereira( Feb 1866) and Manuel Augustine Pereira (July 10, 1870.) Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks Geneva -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word
No. I would put it in as double surname starting with Sousa not Tramocinho, but rather Sousa Tramocinho. After all, unless it became your name, it is just a nick name that was used and the real name is Sousa. If you put a / front slash in front of Sousa, it should show and appear under the double name. JR On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:24:05 PM UTC-5, Maria wrote: Marcio- thanks for the explanation on Tramocinho. Now I'm wondering how I enter the name In the genealogy program- Manoel --de Sousa Tramocinho- maybe put the de Sousa Tramocinho in the box for the last name. (?) Maria Elena On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.comjavascript: wrote: No problem. I believe Tremocinho would have been a nickname that could have very well turned into a surname to diferenciate him or an ancestor from other with same name. The only word that I can associate with Tremocinho is Tremoço. Now Tremoço in portuguese means Lupine Bean I guess Tremocinho would be little Lupine Bean (the termination inho in portuguese means something smaller) Examples: Cão - Cãozinho (Dog - little dog) Barco - Barquinho (Boat - little boat) I hope I wasnt 2 confusing :) I have the advantage of being born and raised in Portugal so the language is easy for me. Reading and writting portuguese to me is like English to you :) Plus almost 20 years reading old records makes things much easier :) Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Sexta-feira, 14 de Fevereiro de 2014 11:39, Maria Lima maria@gmail.com javascript: escreveu: Oh- thank you Marcio. I had forgotten to make note of that for the DeSousa's. Do you know if they used that tremocinho to differentiate someone from a particular region named de Sousa or an occupation maybe? I have seen the word on other De Sousa's but not sure if that means they're related somehow. Again- thank you-( I can't imagine how you were able to read that) :) Maria Elena On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.comjavascript: wrote: Its Tramocinho Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Sexta-feira, 14 de Fevereiro de 2014 10:59, Maria Lima maria@gmail.com javascript: escreveu: On the left side for the marriage of Antonio de Lima and Francisca Roza, can someone decipher the very first word on the seventh sentence from the bottom(?)please?It looks like namebo (?) The sentence just before that word gives the name of Francisca's father. It says Manoel de Sousa then the first word on the next sentence is what stumps me. I don't know if it's his profession (?) then it continues to says he,( Manoel ) deceased. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P23.html Thank you. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsub...@googlegroups.com. javascript: To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com.javascript: Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: family members
There are a lot of Teves, in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, so that is likely place to start. JR On Friday, February 14, 2014 11:47:49 AM UTC-5, ggerva...@centurylink.net wrote: Hello group members: Wondering if someone can help me. I am trying to tie in a family group and can not find the records of siblings. Either I am missing something or looking in the wrong places. I am just learning to read the records and have to admit I have a hard time. I am looking for the birth records for three brothers in the parish of Sao Jose. Father is Jose Pereira and mother is Ana Isabel de Teves. Joseph probably Jose Pereira, (Jan 1860) Marion Pereira( Feb 1866) and Manuel Augustine Pereira (July 10, 1870.) Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks Geneva -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: family members
I found a Jose Pereira, 22 yrs old, son of Jose Pereira, deceased and Elena de Jesus, married to Anna Izabel, daughter of Francisco de Teves and Anna Jacintha in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Dec 25- 1850. So if that is your ancestor, you can start looking from 1850 and go forward about 20 years to find the children born to this couple. If you only want to find the particular names, look for only those names in the same time period. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1850-1855/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1850-1855_item1/P16.html Good luck, JR On Friday, February 14, 2014 11:47:49 AM UTC-5, ggerva...@centurylink.net wrote: Hello group members: Wondering if someone can help me. I am trying to tie in a family group and can not find the records of siblings. Either I am missing something or looking in the wrong places. I am just learning to read the records and have to admit I have a hard time. I am looking for the birth records for three brothers in the parish of Sao Jose. Father is Jose Pereira and mother is Ana Isabel de Teves. Joseph probably Jose Pereira, (Jan 1860) Marion Pereira( Feb 1866) and Manuel Augustine Pereira (July 10, 1870.) Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks Geneva -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I'm having trouble with surname of mother of the bride.
There is no connection between the Brilhante of Ponta Garca and Faja de Baixo that I am aware of. In Ponta Garca, it si si,ple a nickname that was adopted by the Medeiros line circa 1800's. Ity is probably the same with the Medeiros of Faja de Baixo. JR On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:34:04 PM UTC-5, Azoreanno wrote: Looks like Macedo to me Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Quarta-feira, 12 de Fevereiro de 2014 3:43, Aaron Pereira perei...@gmail.com javascript: escreveu: Hello, I'm having trouble identifying the surname of mother of the bride, Maria de ? Initially, I thought it was Machado, but de Machado doesn't sound right.I also thought de Mello, but it looks a little too long for that.Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. This is a marriage between Manoel de Medeiros and Umbelina Joanna, top left of page. http://goo.gl/1mAKhJ Marriage of Manoel de Medeiros and Umbelina Joanna. Manoel;s parents are Joao de Medeiros and Francisco da Piedade. Umbelina’s parents are Joao de Medeiros and Maria de ? Manoel de Medeiros is a Brilhante from Ponta Garca and I’m trying to connect him to my Medeiros Brilhante’s in Faja de Baixo. I have all of Manoel and Umbelina’s children, but none list the grandparents. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Faial da Terra ancestors
Dear David, thank you for the offer. I would appreciate if you could send the children to my private email address. Many thanks, John Roias (JR) On Friday, February 14, 2014 11:06:09 AM UTC-5, David Perry wrote: These folks are my direct ancestors. I have all their children, at least all I could find. They're on Ancestry.com if you have access. I can also provide them through private email or through this group. Let me know what's best. David On Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:02:03 AM UTC-7, JR wrote: Does anyone who wishes to exchange information have this couple in their database?: Manuel Cabral and Maria Raposo natives and married in Faial da Terra (?)circa 1748-66. Two of their children appear and marry in Ponta Garca, in 1788 and 1789. JR -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero
Wow, Margaret!! cabouquiero makes sense then- as one who works in mines because Antonio must have known that business when he took his 2 teenage sons and sailed to Australia; set them up in business in the goldfields of Victoria. I know they were able to speak English and read and write. It's very intriguing. I've researched what was at first a family story and verified. I wonder what type of mines there were Sao Miguel. I've seen the occupation of Cabouqueiro recently. Thanks !! Maria Elena On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maria, Here's from PORTO Editor dictionary: cabouqueiro Masculin name 1.o que abre caboucos 1. one who digs/excavates 2.cavador 2. fits the definition given by Ricardo, one who works with a hoe 3.indivíduo que trabalha em minas ou pedreiras 3. a person who works the mines or quarries 4.pioneiro 4. pioneer/digger On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote: The google dictionary says: Hacker. How would that fit in to their lifestyle? Could it be like a lumberjack. This person was a Cabouquiero then later in baptismal records of his children, his profession is proprietero. Is proprietero a land/property owner? The google translation says it means owner. Thanks for any insight. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero
Margaret! That last definition makes TOTAL SENSE!! In Australia those who worked the mines were called DIGGERS!!!Isn't that enlightening. I know that both Jacinto Jose de Lima and his brother Jose Jacinto owned a part in the Humbug Hill Mining and Sluicing company. I don't know where to find Antonio sailing back to the Azores. I found him sailing with a boatload of people from Sao Miguel in 1852 as Unassisted Passengers on the Water Lily in November 1852. But I don't think he stayed in Australia; just don't know where to find ships from Australia to Azores. Always mire questions but you helped me again!! Thank you, Maria Elena On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Here's from PORTO Editorial dictionary: cabouqueiro Masculin name 1.o que abre caboucos 1. one who digs/excavates 2.cavador 2. fits the definition given by Ricardo, one who works with a hoe 3.indivíduo que trabalha em minas ou pedreiras 3. a person who works the mines or quarries 4.pioneiro 4. pioneer/digger cabouqueiro In Infopédia [Em linha]. Porto: Porto Editora, 2003-2014. [Consult. 2014-02-14]. Disponível na www: URL: http://www.infopedia.pt/lingua-portuguesa/cabouqueiro;jsessionid=oMHlT7n7-NJkNIR1MkHe0Q__. On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Maria, trying again: Here's from PORTO Editorial dictionary: cabouqueiro Masculin name 1. o que abre caboucos 1. one who digs/excavates 2. cavador 2. fits the definition given by Ricardo, one who works with a hoe 3. indivíduo que trabalha em minas ou pedreiras 3. a person who works the mines or quarries 4. pioneiro 4. pioneer/digger On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote: The google dictionary says: Hacker. How would that fit in to their lifestyle? Could it be like a lumberjack. This person was a Cabouquiero then later in baptismal records of his children, his profession is proprietero. Is proprietero a land/property owner? The google translation says it means owner. Thanks for any insight. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I'm having trouble with surname of mother of the bride.
There is no connection between the Brilhante's of Ponta Garca and Faja de Baixo that I am aware of. In Ponta Garca, it simply a nickname that was adopted by the Medeiros line circa 1800's. It is probably the same with the Medeiros of Faja de Baixo. JR On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:43:17 AM UTC-5, Aaron Pereira wrote: Hello, I'm having trouble identifying the surname of mother of the bride, Maria de ? Initially, I thought it was Machado, but de Machado doesn't sound right.I also thought de Mello, but it looks a little too long for that.Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. This is a marriage between Manoel de Medeiros and Umbelina Joanna, top left of page. http://goo.gl/1mAKhJ Marriage of Manoel de Medeiros and Umbelina Joanna. Manoel;s parents are Joao de Medeiros and Francisco da Piedade. Umbelina’s parents are Joao de Medeiros and Maria de ? Manoel de Medeiros is a Brilhante from Ponta Garca and I’m trying to connect him to my Medeiros Brilhante’s in Faja de Baixo. I have all of Manoel and Umbelina’s children, but none list the grandparents. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero
Digger is also common slang meaning Soldier in Australia Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero
That Australian slang for Soldier probably goes back to WW I and the digging of trenches. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Soares Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:22 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero Digger is also common slang meaning Soldier in Australia Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing
I never really got into the DNA testing but would like to know how and where to do it, how much would it cost. I live in Canada. Is there a diference between the companies that do it? Thank you for any input on the matter. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing
Marcio, It's best to go with Family Tree DNA. That's where the Azores DNA project is. I'd start off with the Family Finder test, which covers all your lines back about 200 years from your birth. That test is $99 USD + $7 postage since you are in Canada. Yes, there's a bit of a difference between the companies. There are over 600 people with Azorean descent at Family Tree DNA. There's probably about 12 people with Azorean ancestry over at Ancestry.com. There's more at 23 and Me, but since that company was originally set up for medical type info, most people there don't answer genealogy requests. Rick is going to have to send you the join link because my computer froze up again and I'm answering through my cell. Excuse the typos. Hope this answers your questions. Cheri On Feb 14, 2014 9:09 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: I never really got into the DNA testing but would like to know how and where to do it, how much would it cost. I live in Canada. Is there a diference between the companies that do it? Thank you for any input on the matter. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing
All lines including the ones from unknown parents? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:25 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Marcio, It's best to go with Family Tree DNA. That's where the Azores DNA project is. I'd start off with the Family Finder test, which covers all your lines back about 200 years from your birth. That test is $99 USD + $7 postage since you are in Canada. Yes, there's a bit of a difference between the companies. There are over 600 people with Azorean descent at Family Tree DNA. There's probably about 12 people with Azorean ancestry over at Ancestry.com. There's more at 23 and Me, but since that company was originally set up for medical type info, most people there don't answer genealogy requests. Rick is going to have to send you the join link because my computer froze up again and I'm answering through my cell. Excuse the typos. Hope this answers your questions. Cheri On Feb 14, 2014 9:09 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: I never really got into the DNA testing but would like to know how and where to do it, how much would it cost. I live in Canada. Is there a diference between the companies that do it? Thank you for any input on the matter. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
