Thanks Marcio, In relooking at the records this morning I see how I was off, a more careful examination of the surrounding records confirm you are correct.
Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcio Borba Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Andre de Carvalho & Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17?? It is March 6 1687. Sebastião Roiz son of Pedro Roiz Crespo and Luzia da Costa with Isabel Carvalha daughter of André Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com <http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com/> Em Quinta-feira, 13 de Fevereiro de 2014 19:48, Richard Francis Pimentel <[email protected]> escreveu: I think I just found another daughter of Andre Carvalho & Beatriz Ferreira. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1 713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P37.html upper left. A marriage on 6 Mar 1686 Sebastiao Perreira son of of Pedro Perreira ? and Luzia de ? wed Isabel Carvalha daughter of Andre Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreria. It is hard for me to read so another set of eyes would help. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Andre de Carvalho & Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17?? This discussion of this couple was started under another thread but I thought it is worth continuing in a new thread. I have been trying to reconcile this couple Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira who are my 7th great grandparents with Carlos Machado and the records I have found. Machado lists Andre Carvalho Benevedes b. about 1637 married to Beatriz Ferreira b. about 1637 Married about 1680. He also lists two daughters Marianna Carvalho b. about 1657 and Beatriz Ferreira b about 1677. Obvious these dates are incorrect. Machado also has Marianna Carvalho b. 1657 marrying to Manuel Rodrigues 28 Mar 1677 in Ginetes. I found this record for Marianna Carvalho and Manuel Rodrigues: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1 713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P27.html The date is 28 Mar 1677 Manuel Rodrigues son of Pedro Rodrigues and Isabel Moreira (dec) with Marianna Carvalha daughter of Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira. He also has Beatriz Ferreira marrying Pedro de Sousa 30 Oct 1707 in Ginetes. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1 713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P62.html The date is 30 Oct 1704 Pedro de Sousa son of Francisco Gonsalves and Catherina de Sousa wed Beatriz Ferreria daughter of Andre Carvalho de Benevedes and Beatriz Ferreira. Machado had 30 Oct 1707. At this point I will say that the Machado I am using is from the disk that was transcribed by Rev Viverios. The true accuracy needs to be determined by looking at the original manuscript. Needless to say it is useful in searches. I have also found this record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1 713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P75.html The date is 6 Nov 1705 Joam Carvalho son of Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira weds Lucia Martins the daughter of Joao Martins and Aguela Rodrigues. This marriage was not in Machado. At this point I have Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira with 3 children Marianna, Joam and Beatriz. All three married I know Joao had descendants. The birth range of the three children seems to be from 1657 to 1683 a span of 26 years. With Marianna being born around 1657 and Beatriz being born around 1683 (based on marriages). Because of the range I would make a safe assumption that Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira were married around 1657 placing their births around 1635. Care needs to be taken when sorting out these records in the book 1646-1713 for Sao Sebastiao in Ginetes as the names Carvalho, Rodrigues, Sousa are numerous and easy to confuse. What I have above appears correct according to the records . Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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