[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel d'Avila de Bettencourt, Lajes do Pico

2014-03-11 Thread Dano
Could have been a little of both - perhaps a DNA test can answer ;) Actually, it was somewhat common practice for a prominent person in the parish to act as godfather (padrinho), or witness (testemunha), for church ceremonies. You will also see regular church members step up and help out with

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel d'Avila de Bettencourt, Lajes do Pico

2014-03-11 Thread Manuel Martins
Thanks Doug, that is true. However, what's intriguing is what two sister having children out of wedlock within a 17 year period. I may have to look at the history at that time, may be troops were in town. Manny On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:48:08 AM UTC-4, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Hi

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Stowaways

2014-03-11 Thread rcapodc
Antonio, At the end of the ship manifest (last page), the Captain (or purser, whoever) would write a list of the passengers and how many had died, how many were born and if any stowaways were found. There is no list that I know of that just lists the stowaways into the USA. Rosemarie

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Stowaways

2014-03-11 Thread E Sharp
There is/are ship(s) that brought people from the Azores to the US illegally and there is no ship's manifest documenting these people so trying to find them in a ship's manifest is highly unlikely. I often wondered if these people obtained a Passportes from the Azores since they entered the US

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anyone else matching to Basque from the population finder test from Ftdna

2014-03-11 Thread rondo ranch
I handle the DNA records for several relatives and I had one relative that was noted as Basque. -Original Message- From: Antonio Faria Sent: Mar 10, 2014 5:34 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anyone else matching to Basque from the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Two ship manifests from Sao Miguel

2014-03-11 Thread rondo ranch
I have no proof of the following but it is just a suggestion: If the ship picked up people from the islands in the same order every time then inter-island traveling would be impossible without going to the final destination (making the whole round trip). If they reverse their order on the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Matches to Mexico

2014-03-11 Thread luiznoia .
Bob, I have a file on the Frederick Vincent Ambrose family. He was married three times. To Anna Souza in 1882, Mary A Silva in 1904, and Frances V in 1915. What are you looking for? I'l start a new thread for that family. I have many photographs that are likely his family. Eric Edgar On Mon,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Rosa Duarte of Madalena, Pico

2014-03-11 Thread luiznoia .
Doug, He was born natural on 25 Feb 1883 in Madelena to Rosa Clara, single. he had a brother Manuel born natural to Rosa Clara on 18 Jun 1878. Her parents were Antonio Garcia Miguel and Rosa Clara . You can find them at NEPS in Madelena Eric Edgar On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:39 PM,

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Stowaways

2014-03-11 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
I think it was common knowledge that whalers from New England would stop in the Azores and pick up extra crew. After the trip the Whaler would go to New Bedford or any of the other ports in the US to deliver their catch and the crew would be paid and then left to their own means without returning

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Rosa Duarte of Madalena, Pico

2014-03-11 Thread pico
Very interesting, Eric.I see he has a Camacho line going back to Bandeiras and likely my relative, since my Camacho is also from Bandeiras.I also noticed one person in my database named Jose da Rosa Duarte from Feteiras, Faial in the 1700s. Of course, he's too old to be his father, but maybe my

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Two ship manifests from Sao Miguel

2014-03-11 Thread Candice Kiss
Thank you all very much for your posts in reply! Candice On Sunday, March 9, 2014 10:00:38 PM UTC-4, Candice Kiss wrote: Hello! Wondering, please, if someone might be able to help me locate manifests for two ships arriving from Sao Miguel as follows: June 6, 1899 - New York March

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Two ship manifests from Sao Miguel

2014-03-11 Thread Dano
Rondo, that's not the history of the Azores - Azoreans didn't travel anywhere unless there was an absolute need to. Their lives weren't much above subsistence level, so, they weren't into sightseeing, they were into survival. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cuba

2014-03-11 Thread Antonio Faria
During the Iberian Union which was approximately 1580 to 1640 Portugal and Spain remained separate countries technically, but had one king during that time I Azoreans immigrated to Puerto Rico I haven't done too much research on Cuba but I suspect there as well. Also Cuba was heavily settled