Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is my DNA leading to a distant ancestor on Pico?

[IslandRoutes]

Cheri,
On the plus side, I know my newly identified 5th cousins is from the 
Achada/Mello side of the tree.  He is not related to the Pacheco line of 
FVC.  That's got to account for something :)
Mel
On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 8:55:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> They don't HAVE TO have the same chromosome 2 sequence. It's really nice 
> when it happens, because it makes it easy, but as in life, most things 
> AREN'T easy. G.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is my DNA leading to a distant ancestor on Pico?

[Cheri Mello]

They don't HAVE TO have the same chromosome 2 sequence. It's really nice
when it happens, because it makes it easy, but as in life, most things
AREN'T easy. G.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:52 PM, IslandRoutes  wrote:

> Cheri,
> That gives me a little bit of a time frame to work with.  I'm slowly
> piecing together my mid to early 1700s for the Pacheco line.
> Unfortunately, my direct Pacheco line end in a Pai Incognito, so if it's
> that line, then I will never know.
>
> It's interesting how DNA works out.  I have another match on this same
> line.  He had a pretty good idea of his ancestry through the mid-1700s.  I
> was able to piece it together and figure out that he is my 5th cousin,
> meeting up with ancestors, Manoel de Mello and Barbara da Silva, married in
> 1794, Achada.  My line stayed in Achada, his veered off to Pico de Pedra.
>
> He and my known Pacheco 3rd cousin (mentioned in the previous post) are
> not common matches for me.  He doesn't have the chromosome 2 sequence.
> Yet, they both descend from the same ancestor.  (She would be his 5th
> cousin the same way as I am.)
>
> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 5:14:51 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> It goes back roughly 200 years from the birth of the testee. In your
>> case, the mid-1700s.
>>
>> You could have a sticky segment from the early 1700s. Maybe one of your
>> ancestors had a couple of siblings who went out west to Pico. Just a couple
>> of scenarios.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is my DNA leading to a distant ancestor on Pico?

[IslandRoutes]

Cheri,
That gives me a little bit of a time frame to work with.  I'm slowly 
piecing together my mid to early 1700s for the Pacheco line. 
 Unfortunately, my direct Pacheco line end in a Pai Incognito, so if it's 
that line, then I will never know.

It's interesting how DNA works out.  I have another match on this same 
line.  He had a pretty good idea of his ancestry through the mid-1700s.  I 
was able to piece it together and figure out that he is my 5th cousin, 
meeting up with ancestors, Manoel de Mello and Barbara da Silva, married in 
1794, Achada.  My line stayed in Achada, his veered off to Pico de Pedra.

He and my known Pacheco 3rd cousin (mentioned in the previous post) are not 
common matches for me.  He doesn't have the chromosome 2 sequence.  Yet, 
they both descend from the same ancestor.  (She would be his 5th cousin the 
same way as I am.)

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 5:14:51 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> It goes back roughly 200 years from the birth of the testee. In your case, 
> the mid-1700s.
>
> You could have a sticky segment from the early 1700s. Maybe one of your 
> ancestors had a couple of siblings who went out west to Pico. Just a couple 
> of scenarios.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is my DNA leading to a distant ancestor on Pico?

[Cheri Mello]

It goes back roughly 200 years from the birth of the testee. In your case,
the mid-1700s.

You could have a sticky segment from the early 1700s. Maybe one of your
ancestors had a couple of siblings who went out west to Pico. Just a couple
of scenarios.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:52 PM, IslandRoutes <
insearchofthehumanspi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Over the last year, I've been noticing 4th to remote cousin DNA matches
> whose trees are entirely on Pico.  I pretty much ignored them because my
> tree several generations back is entirely on Sao Miguel Island.  I didn't
> really think much of it and thought maybe they are identical by state,
> rather than true cousin matches.
>
> Then, last week I got a new match.  This person is another 4th to remote.
> But the difference is he matches my 3rd cousin on the Pacheco line
> (primarily in Fenais da Vera Cruz, Estrela, Nordestinho, Conceicao) on the
> same sequence on chromosome 2.  My Pacheco cousin shares most of her DNA
> with me on this block.
>
> My new match has 2 generations in Furnas and then the rest of the tree is
> on Pico.  I didn't see common surnames in his Furnas names and I have no
> ancestry there that I know of.
>
> So, now I wonder if someone in my Pacheco line has roots in Pico.  I am
> back into the mid 1750s or earlier on many of the lines on this side of my
> tree.  There's no clues thus far.
>
> How far back can autosomal DNA predict a relationship?  If it is a real
> match, I think it's probably going to be in the 1600s.
>
> Mostly this is curiosity about how far the autosomal test can really
> reach.  I'll continue to work on this side of the tree, but I'm not going
> focus on finding a link (unless it falls into my lap...LOL)
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Is my DNA leading to a distant ancestor on Pico?

[IslandRoutes]

Over the last year, I've been noticing 4th to remote cousin DNA matches 
whose trees are entirely on Pico.  I pretty much ignored them because my 
tree several generations back is entirely on Sao Miguel Island.  I didn't 
really think much of it and thought maybe they are identical by state, 
rather than true cousin matches.

Then, last week I got a new match.  This person is another 4th to remote.  
But the difference is he matches my 3rd cousin on the Pacheco line 
(primarily in Fenais da Vera Cruz, Estrela, Nordestinho, Conceicao) on the 
same sequence on chromosome 2.  My Pacheco cousin shares most of her DNA 
with me on this block.

My new match has 2 generations in Furnas and then the rest of the tree is 
on Pico.  I didn't see common surnames in his Furnas names and I have no 
ancestry there that I know of.

So, now I wonder if someone in my Pacheco line has roots in Pico.  I am 
back into the mid 1750s or earlier on many of the lines on this side of my 
tree.  There's no clues thus far.

How far back can autosomal DNA predict a relationship?  If it is a real 
match, I think it's probably going to be in the 1600s.

Mostly this is curiosity about how far the autosomal test can really 
reach.  I'll continue to work on this side of the tree, but I'm not going 
focus on finding a link (unless it falls into my lap...LOL)


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