Re: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-30 Thread Allan Jardine
Or this could all simply indicate that the W3C is being very sensible and not trying to push standards beyond what people are actually doing or want to do. Perhaps to some extent. But then you end up in a situation such as the MSIE / Netscape browser war where multiple features are

Re: [backstage] Re: (freeing) content is king

2006-11-30 Thread Gordon Joly
At 04:02 + 30/11/06, Frank Wales wrote: On 11/29/2006 04:22 PM, Matthew Cashmore wrote: Only the BBC would be having a conversation about it's Chairman having to code Perl to get the job... Over at ITV they're talking Ruby, Ruby? At ITV? What? [checks immediate surroundings for

[backstage] Tag clouds and t-shirts.

2006-11-30 Thread Gordon Joly
How about this for a t-shirt? http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/rhn/media/iot_cloud_rhn.gif Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

RE: [backstage] Tag clouds and t-shirts.

2006-11-30 Thread Ian Forrester
I can reveal the final designs for the Backstage T-shirts if you like or I can make you all wait with baited breath till the Christmas Party or they start appearing all over Flickr on Sunday morning... *smile* Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965 -Original Message- From:

Re: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-30 Thread Nic James Ferrier
Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the questions is what could the BBC Backstage be doing to help the W3C? Besides recommending good practice and standards? Get the BBC to use W3C standards more? I'd say that was the biggest thing. -- Nic Ferrier http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk

Re: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-30 Thread Richard P Edwards
From looking at their web-site, perhaps Backstage could show them the way to a better designer. On the front page it mentions W3C over 40 times.. I fell of my seat before I got to the About page, but I was smiling broadly as I got up off the floor. Freakonomics can definitely be a

RE: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-30 Thread Lee Goddard
Ian Forrester: So the questions is what could the BBC Backstage be doing to help the W3C? Besides recommending good practice and standards? The BBC could clean-up its HTML output (at the very least that messy toolbar that gives my IA's such headaches), and enforce (not request)

[backstage] Video Search - Wall of Videos

2006-11-30 Thread Richard Hyett
I've been using blinks 'wall of video' service for some time now to display specific sets of videos on various web sites. They provide the option to embedd flash based code into your html web pages Take a look http://blinkx.com/wall?query=nhs I had assumed that this kind of option - embedding of

RE: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-30 Thread Jason Cartwright
I disagree, its all about the audience - W3C is a resource listing technical specifications of complex standards going back well over 10 years. I'd imagine its audience is highly technical and couldn't really give a damn about the design or fluff text. If you want to learn HTML or any of the

RE: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-30 Thread Jason Cartwright
Whilst tiny W3C Valid XHTML badges generally annoy me, but I think the BBC is the perfect place to display them. This is where some standards advocates over do it for me. 99.999%* of visitors to the BBC homepage (or pretty much any other mainstream website) don't care how its made - they just

RE: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-30 Thread Lee Goddard
Jason Cartwright: Lee Goddard: Whilst tiny W3C Valid XHTML badges generally annoy me, but I think the BBC is the perfect place to display them. ... Having to, or wanting to explain how something is achieved to an end users is, to me, a sign of the technology's infancy - and is

RE: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-30 Thread Deirdre Harvey
:) I wasn't thinking of the non-technies, but rather sticking the badge in the footer. A tiny little badge, You'd hardly notice it. Just feel that the BBC should be representing standards on all levels: whilst these days most listeners may not notice a split infinitive, one still

[backstage] BBC News video and Google custom search engines

2006-11-30 Thread Colin Donald
Hi, The post about walls of video search made me think about my own attempts to search BBC News video with a Google custom search engine. Video searching is something that I've been interested in for some time and when Google started their custom search engine project www.google.com/coop/cse I

Re: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-30 Thread Andy Roberts
On 30/11/06, Deirdre Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) I wasn't thinking of the non-technies, but rather sticking the badge in the footer. A tiny little badge, You'd hardly notice it. Just feel that the BBC should be representing standards on all levels: whilst these days most listeners

[backstage] Second Life Event - London 13th Dec

2006-11-30 Thread Mr I Forrester
A friend sent me this... Second life are running a workshop in London on the 13th of December This three hour workshop will help you understand the potential and value of Second Life as an interactive media platform, where you can construct buildings, create clothing, host events, stream media,

Re: [backstage] W3C and the Overton window

2006-11-30 Thread Gordon Joly
At 18:51 + 30/11/06, Andy Roberts wrote: On 30/11/06, Deirdre Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) I wasn't thinking of the non-technies, but rather sticking the badge in the footer. A tiny little badge, You'd hardly notice it. Just feel that the BBC should be representing standards on

Re: [backstage] Second Life Event - London 13th Dec

2006-11-30 Thread Mario Menti
Fyi, this event is now full (but i think you may still be able to get on the waiting list). m. On 11/30/06, Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend sent me this... Second life are running a workshop in London on the 13th of December This three hour workshop will help you understand