Re: [backstage] Adding Subtitles/transcripts to /programmes pages

2008-06-04 Thread Tom Jacobs
Sorry to bring this topic back up but i would really like to hear from some of the people in the BBC about it. Having the scripts of each show, either in pain text or other format, on the /programmes would be a great resource. it would allow people to search and find information/section of BBC

RE: [backstage] Film Reviews

2008-06-04 Thread Kevin Hinde
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 03 June 2008 19:00 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Film Reviews I have forwarded this good idea on. I've also commented that

Re: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Brian Butterworth
Generally a great idea. But why on earth is this being done this way? The Astons on the channel carry the information anyway, and we know that this can be fed into another computer system, as the MHEG5 version of BBC Parliament. I can't be that hard for BBC Parliament to provide the feed of

Re: [backstage] Radio 4 on Realplayer

2008-06-04 Thread Brian Butterworth
James, Thanks for the information. I'm always interested to hear about how the systems work. I'm particularly pleased to hear that the encoding will happen from the full bitrate sources in the future. Aside from not having any service drop-outs and improved monitoring it can only hope that the

Re: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Matthew Somerville
Brian Butterworth wrote: But why on earth is this being done this way? If by Astons you mean the superimposed captions, then if you had read the text below (and the blog posting linked to), you would see that we did try exactly that and it sadly just wasn't good enough. ATB, Matthew The

Re: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Phil Wilson
However, a clear text feed of the data would keep the data pure, surely? Seriously, where would the fun in that be? Phil 'timestamp-tastic' Wilson - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.

Re: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Brian Butterworth
Phil, I'm sure one of the first computing acronyms I ever leant was GIGO... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIGO 2008/6/4 Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: However, a clear text feed of the data would keep the data pure, surely? Seriously, where would the fun in that be? Phil

Re: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Matthew Somerville
Phil Wilson wrote: Phil 'timestamp-tastic' Wilson People are catching up on you, Phil, better get back to it! ;-) ATB, Matthew - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list

RE: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Andrew Bowden
Forgive my ignorance, but what is an Aston? Aston is a company who provide systems for generating on-screen graphics for live programmes - however it's also used as a generic term for those same graphics. So the kind of graphics like you get on the News where they'll say Nick Higham reporting,

Re: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Phil Wilson
I'm sure one of the first computing acronyms I ever leant was GIGO... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIGO Yes, I know it. Take a look at Etienne's reply for one aspect of the details and why the captions may also count as garbage. Another important point is that the video captioner they've

Re: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Matthew Somerville
Brian Butterworth wrote: I thought they were trying to do OCR on the captions from the DVB-T stream. No, we have clear text. As it says in the blog post :-) However, a clear text feed of the data would keep the data pure, surely? Sadly not (trust me, I've spent some time on this!) - even

Re: [backstage] iPlayer download client for the Mac

2008-06-04 Thread Tim Dobson
Tim Dobson wrote: The immediate question that, I would like to ask $[spokesman|admin|person] is, in reference to [1], Why? ...and, as usual, the question falls into a deep, dark, hole with the rest of the unanswered questions about iplayer. :( it's a shame really... -- www.tdobson.net

Re: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Brian Butterworth
2008/6/4 Etienne Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought they were trying to do OCR on the captions from the DVB-T stream. What I was saying was that the old Freeview version of BBC Parliament used to have a

Re: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Brian Butterworth
Phil, 2008/6/4 Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm sure one of the first computing acronyms I ever leant was GIGO... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIGO Yes, I know it. Take a look at Etienne's reply for one aspect of the details and why the captions may also count as garbage. Another

RE: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Christopher Woods
Aston is a company who provide systems for generating on-screen graphics for live programmes - however it's also used as a generic term for those same graphics. So the kind of graphics like you get on the News where they'll say Nick Higham reporting, the name of an interviewee or

Re: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com

2008-06-04 Thread Martin Deutsch
On 6/4/08, Etienne Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I was saying was that the old Freeview version of BBC Parliament used to have a quarter-screen picture and the information that is now in the Astons was

Re: [backstage] Radio 4 on Realplayer

2008-06-04 Thread James Cridland
@christopher: Ooo ooo oo oo oo oo oo oo, *FLAC streaming*? Lossless WMA? If you'd be happy trebling your licence fee, and explaining why everyone else has to... (grin)... but I've plenty of experience adding odd formats to radio stations which don't have many listeners, thanks. @briantist:

[backstage] BBC Look East HTML rich newsletter

2008-06-04 Thread oohmechalfonts
Hello there, I'm a journalist working for BBC East in Norwich and I've joined this mailing list to get advice and guidance - and possibly some ideas - about a project I've been working on for the last 6 months. With the backing of my bosses at Look East and BBC English regions, I've

[backstage] Ray Gosling and Parsley Sidings

2008-06-04 Thread Richard Hyett
The first radio documentary I heard Ray Gosling do was a series about an overland trip, 'on the road to new zealand', it came out in the late seventies. I think I was expecting a whispering reverential right-on Bob Harris commentary, what we got was very different, very challenging. Ray has this