Underwhelming. It's a big iPhone. It's named after the Star Trek PADD.
Might be good it if ran an operating system and had a keyboard.
2010/1/27 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net
So, what does everyone think?
(and how much effect will it have on the video situation over the
next 18 months or so,
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:03, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote:
Underwhelming. It's a big iPhone. It's named after the Star Trek PADD.
Might be good it if ran an operating system and had a keyboard.
It does, both.
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It does, both, what?
2010/1/28 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:03, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv
wrote:
Underwhelming. It's a big iPhone. It's named after the Star Trek PADD.
Might be good it if ran an operating system and had a keyboard.
It does, both.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:32, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote:
It does, both, what?
it runs an operating system.
it has a keyboard.
2010/1/28 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:03, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv
wrote:
Underwhelming. It's a
On 28/01/10 08:03, Brian Butterworth wrote:
Underwhelming. It's a big iPhone. It's named after the Star Trek PADD.
Might be good it if ran an operating system and had a keyboard.
As Mo points out it does. It can run iPhone apps so if it's not running
the iPhone OS it's running another OSX
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:06, Rupert Watson rup...@root6.com wrote:
Did he say whether iBooks will run on existing iPhones?
Not seen it mentioned.
iBooks is US-only for the moment, though.
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Did he say whether iBooks will run on existing iPhones?
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On 28 Jan 2010, at 08:53, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:32, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv
wrote:
It does, both, what?
it runs an operating system.
it has a keyboard.
Sorry, I didn't realise we were back in the 1970s where the software that
runs on the iPhone can be called an operating system.
And it clearly doesn't have a keyboard.
2010/1/28 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:32, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv
wrote:
It
What else would you call it? An operating system it is. Whether you like
it or not is a different matter.
It does have an input device which you would fall into the term defined as
Keyboard IMO.
FWIW I¹m a mac fanboy but the lack of decent interop with other devices,
lack of a camera (which
On 28/01/10 09:56, Brian Butterworth wrote:
Sorry, I didn't realise we were back in the 1970s where the software that
runs on the iPhone can be called an operating system.
It's a UNIX. It's a UNIX broken to remove your freedom, but it's still a
multi-tasking* memory-protected kernel-based
Am I missing something - how is it not an OS? :)
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote:
So, what does everyone think?
(and how much effect will it have on the video situation over the
next 18 months or so, do we reckon?)
Would make a very luxurious smart and expensive remote control, or if
you stuck legs on
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:56, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote:
Sorry, I didn't realise we were back in the 1970s where the software that
runs on the iPhone can be called an operating system.
And it clearly doesn't have a keyboard.
Not just an operating system, but a very close
It is an OS. It just doesn't allow you to do all the stuff that us power users
(and I would suggest membership of this list marks someone out as such) want to
do. The closed app ecosystem is similarly only really an issue for us. I
suspect a bigger issue for your normal user will be the lack of
I'm interested to see if the keyboard on the iPad will actually be worse
than the one on the iPhone - something I won't really know till I get a
chance to hold one.
At least with the iPhone, I can easily hold it in one hand, whilst still
being able to type using my thumb in that hand. To hold the
It doesn't look like anything new to me. Mind you, it's certainly not designed
for me, or anyone else who wants to work on their computer.
I've been trialling a tablet PC for the last few months. It looks nice, you
can write on the screen, the handwriting recognition is amazing, it has Vista
2010/1/28 Daniel Morris daniel.mor...@bbc.co.uk:
Sorry, I didn't realise we were back in the 1970s where the software that
runs on the iPhone can be called an operating system.
Am I missing something - how is it not an OS? :)
Apple actively oppose you installing whatever you want to, and
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:49, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote:
2010/1/28 Daniel Morris daniel.mor...@bbc.co.uk:
Sorry, I didn't realise we were back in the 1970s where the software that
runs on the iPhone can be called an operating system.
Am I missing something - how is it not an OS?
All good points.
I'm sitting here inside a university thinking that this is a potentially
really useful device. There was nothing hugely unexpected, though I'm a
touch disappointed at the lack of a camera or SD card slot. The lack of
Flash so far is also still an issue, but may not be forever -
I think the no-Flash means that it a seriously crippled web browser. Hardly
the best way to browse the internet, and thus will be a serious
disappointment, not only to power users, but to casual internet surfers as well.
The no-camera thing just screams wait for the second generation before
Some useful context on the Apple / Flash debate:
daringfireball.net/2010/01/apple_adobe_flash
Phil
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Michael Kraskin
michael.kras...@bbc.comwrote:
I think the no-Flash means that it a seriously crippled web browser.
Hardly the best way to browse the internet,
Dan Brickley wrote:
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote:
So, what does everyone think?
Would make a very luxurious smart and expensive remote control, or if
you stuck legs on it, a very very small multi-touch table.
Apparently that's not all it does:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:20, Michael Kraskin michael.kras...@bbc.com wrote:
I think the no-Flash means that it a seriously crippled web browser. Hardly
the best way to browse the internet, and thus will be a serious
disappointment, not only to power users, but to casual internet surfers as
Put Jellycar and Doodlejump on it and you will never see it again...
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Re camera, I want it for the exact same reason every single apple laptop has
one. Not point and shoot, but video chat.
And if developers do change because of this, that's great, and perhaps then it
will make sense to buy one.
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I can see why they didn’t put a camera on it.
Who’s going to be bother holding the thing still enough to enable decent chat?
It would be a nightmare to try and hold it out in front of your face and even
worse for the person getting motion sickness on the other end.
From:
I'd agree to a gentleman's wager that the second generation will have a front
facing camera and a native application just for this purpose.
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The lack of a camera (or two, 1 forward and 1 backward facing) is a shame for
augmented reality apps as well chat, it would have been good to see what
people could have done here, especially as we’ve already seen good stuff using
GPS and Q-codes on the iphone.
From:
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 22:37, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote:
So, what does everyone think?
It's very pretty, but I think it represents one of the more
significant moments in Apple's transition from computer company to
rich-media toy company. Which is great and all, but for the things I
heh, we have a virtual steadicam system in RD that could address this
problem (the motion sickness thing)...
has anyone got Steve Jobs' phone number?
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I tried calling him but he wouldn't take my call. Something about a blog entry
I wrote about the ipad?
:)
http://cubicgarden.com/wordpress/2010/01/27/the-apple-ipad-underwelming-but-not-a-bad-price/
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No more Macs. I'm done feeding this beast - for the same reason I was done
feeding the Microsoft beast a few years ago.
I'm not sure what I do now. I'll continue using the Mac I have until it needs
replacing. Then whatever I get won't be a Mac. If Linux still doesn't quite
fit, I'll hack
Mo McRoberts wrote:
So, what does everyone think?
Hm...
I'm a bit concerned that they've taken what is basically general purpose
computer and said you can only do what we allow you to do.
If this was a Mac Tablet, I'm not sure I'd have an issue.
On your Mac you can run pretty much
2010/1/28 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net
It's a piece of consumer electronics. A very powerful piece of
consumer electronics, but a piece of consumer electronics nonetheless.
I think that's what I was getting at.
Before home computers came along the things consumers bought were called
Ian,
I don't know where you host cubicgaren.com (at home, perhaps) but it's very
often down, as it is now...
2010/1/28 Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
I tried calling him but he wouldn't take my call. Something about a blog
entry I wrote about the ipad?
:)
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:43, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote:
Apologies for inflammatory language, I found out this morning someone has
stolen by external terrabyte drive. Lost a decade of TV recordings...
Oh cripes, my condolences :(
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Tim Dobson wrote:
It seems such a step backwards that the first device which will make a
real impact on the tablet form factor is going to stifle developers open
innovation and prevent consumers from getting the most out of their device.
Ahaha
This is probably the funniest thing I've seen so
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 22:37, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote:
So, what does everyone think?
I quoted it earlier on my blog - Alex Payne (@al3x) states succintly
what the problem is with closed platforms like the iPad:
The thing that bothers me most about the iPad is this: if I had an
iPad
2010/1/28 Tom Morris bbtommor...@gmail.com:
A quote from Apple COO Tim Cook: We believe that we need to own and
control the primary technologies behind the products we make
Err, no thanks.
No more Macs. I'm done feeding this beast - for the same reason I was
done feeding the Microsoft
2010/1/28 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:49, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote:
2010/1/28 Daniel Morris daniel.mor...@bbc.co.uk:
Sorry, I didn't realise we were back in the 1970s where the software that
runs on the iPhone can be called an operating system.
Am I
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