On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 20:07 +, vijay chopra wrote:
> And I'm sure the proposal for "Linux DRM" will go down well in the
> FLOSS community, as well as a lead balloon anyway.
Well, Linus seems to think it's OK...
http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2003042401126OSKNLL
> I can see the slashd
Just incase you all haven't seen it already - This whole thing got
Slashdotted - http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/31/1947229&from=rss
An anonymous reader writes /"The BBC reports that following approval
from the BBC Trust (an independent oversight body) they are now allowed
to release
Raj Anand wrote:
Thanks for that Ian - I wish I could put the availability of the
tickets on my RSS feeder :)
(I guess if it was available as RSS all tickets will be gone in a few
minutes :) )
Cheers,
Raj
Got it in one. If it was RSS it would be minutes rather than hours.
Ian
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This is a splendidly informed debate, incidentally. I'm enjoying it.
On 1/31/07, Stephen Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Media groups tend to equate a download
with a (potential) lost sale. This is just not the case. Many people who
download, especially cross borders may discover television f
This I feel is one of the main sticking points which leads to the
current trends in litigation. Media groups tend to equate a download
with a (potential) lost sale. This is just not the case. Many people who
download, especially cross borders may discover television from other
countries to whic
"The Trust will require the BBC Executive to adopt a platform-agnostic
approach within a reasonable timeframe. This requires the BBC to develop an
alternative DRM framework to enable users of other technology, for example,
Apple and Linux, to access the on-demand services."
Can anyone tell me if
On 1/31/07, Josh at GoUK.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<< If you make furniture, the fact that furniture-duplication wands are
invented does not give you the right to restrict people from
duplicating chairs.>>
No, but I should have the rights to restrict people from duplicating MY
cha
Thanks for that Ian - I wish I could put the availability of the tickets on
my RSS feeder :)
(I guess if it was available as RSS all tickets will be gone in a few
minutes :) )
Cheers,
Raj
On 1/31/07, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Raj the tickets are not over. They are being given
"This requires the BBC to develop an alternative DRM framework to enable
users of other technology, for example, Apple and Linux, to access the
on-demand..."
I'm now taking bets on how soon "BBC DRM" is cracked.
Seriously, do the people who wrote that paragraph seriously think that they
can better
You may also be very interested in the OFCOM PSP document
The OFCOM DS and OFCOM DS Lite is outselling the OFCOM PSP by miles
though...
*Sorry*
*Ducks*
Hi Jeremy,
From your first link:
"This requires the BBC to develop an alternative DRM framework to enable
users of other technology, for example, Apple and Linux, to access the
on-demand services."
They do realise that this will be virtually impossible, don't they? any
iPlayer client that offer
Hopefully this works - I've not been able to post for some reason. I'm the
person at PA who contacted Rob. I tried to post last week to say we'd look
at freeing our data but couldn't post. We're quite keen to get involved in
backstage and see what you guys can do with our info and feeds and where
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland
> Sent: 31 January 2007 11:24
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: [backstage] BBC Web API - additional audio formats //
> additional speed descriptors
>
> Secondly, we al
Cor blimey, it's like watching Walter Benjamin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Work_of_Art_in_the_Age_of_Mechanical_Reproduction
and Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Joseph_Proudhon
Go at it like luchadores.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucha_libre
>On 31/01/07, Jam
"James Cridland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> No, but I should have the rights to restrict people from duplicating MY
> chairs.
I'm not sure... I don't think you should have that right if the means
of protecting it is detrimental to society.
Why should society accept that a device like the per
Read the press release, penguinista! :)
"This requires the BBC to develop an alternative DRM framework to enable
users of other technology, for example, Apple and Linux, to access the
on-demand..."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/news/press-releases/31-01-2007.html
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From: [
I find the Trust's wording careful - and wise.
It establishes a desirable goal - platform agnosticism - without
constraining how that is achieved. It opens up doors to third parties
(e.g. alternatives to Microsoft- or Apple-only DRM) to take
independent initiatives regardless of the BBC (i.
Raj the tickets are not over. They are being given out in waves, so if you keep
an eye on the barcamp wiki you might be lucky enough to get one when the next
wave go out.
Please don't ask when the next wave will be :)
Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk
On 1/31/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you make furniture, the fact that furniture-duplication wands are
> > invented does not give you the right to restrict people from
> > duplicating chairs.
>
> No, but I should have the rights to restrict people from duplicating MY
> ch
<< If you make furniture, the fact that furniture-duplication wands are
invented does not give you the right to restrict people from
duplicating chairs.>>
No, but I should have the rights to restrict people from duplicating MY
chairs.
That makes no sense. No chair is unique. They all fo
Also for those following the DRM thread on the list. (I know its getting all a
little overwhelming)
You may also be very interested in the OFCOM PSP document (OFCOM Review of
Public Service Broadcasting) which outlines OFCOM's view of the changing
digital landscape. Its still a recommendation a
On 1/31/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 31/01/07, James Cridland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/30/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Metaphors that compare digital data to physical objects are almost
> > always confusion.
>
> Agreed.
:-)
> > Stealing is steal
It's also
one reason why BBCi doesn't assign page numbers to individual stories
(there are other, more boring reasons as well!)
Please do! I find this really interesting, for example News South West is
1670. what happens when we get the interactive streaming of Local TV?
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This email is inte
Robert Kerry wrote:
UCLAP has been put on hold after someone from the PA contacted me and
is currently looking to make their cinema listings available to us.
Apparently he's in talks with Ian or someone else at backstage,
although UCLAP can be restarted if the deal falls through.
Cool, let us k
> "The Trust has also asked the executive to adopt a
> platform-agnostic approach to the iPlayer. The original
> proposal for the service would have meant it was only
> available to Microsoft users but the Trust's proposal will
> require them to develop an alternative framework which will
> al
On 31/01/07, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The Trust has also asked the executive to adopt a platform-agnostic approach
to the iPlayer. ... for example Apple Macs
What about GNU+Linux users, who are reputedly a larger userbase than
OS X users? :-)
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Regards,
Dave
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On 31/01/07, James Cridland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/30/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Metaphors that compare digital data to physical objects are almost
> always confusion.
Agreed.
:-)
> Stealing is stealing, copying is copying. Stealing is not copying.
Not agreed.
"The Trust has also asked the executive to adopt a platform-agnostic approach
to the iPlayer. The original proposal for the service would have meant it
was only available to Microsoft users but the Trust's proposal will require
them to develop an alternative framework which will allow users of oth
On 1/30/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Metaphors that compare digital data to physical objects are almost
always confusion.
Agreed.
Stealing is stealing, copying is copying. Stealing is not copying.
Not agreed. But then, you might be confusing physical objects with data. (!)
On 1/31/07, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
BBC Trust gives iPlayer the go ahead Jessica Rogers 11:00am
(Broadcast)
This is a better link - it gives rather more detail (and isn't Emap's
copyright either!):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/news/press-releases/31-01-2007.html
...in
Re: disability, accessibility & Movies Data
you might want to consider including data scraped from http://
www.disabilityfilms.co.uk/
not a business afaik despite the uri
cheers
Jonathan Chetwynd
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BBC Trust gives iPlayer the go ahead Jessica Rogers 11:00am
(Broadcast)
The BBC Trust has given the go ahead to the corporation's new on-demand
services, including the controversial iPlayer, but has made major changes to
a number of key features the BBC executive proposed.
Changes proposed fo
For those following the DRM/Player thread on this list will want to
know that the BBC Trust this morning "reached provisional conclusions on
BBC on-demand proposals".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/news/press-releases/31-01-2007.html
The headline is that
"Our (BBC Trust) view is that the BBC's n
Can someone help me get tickets for BarCamp London - Im absolutely desperate
for it!
The tickets seem to be over. :(
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 0787 627 4773
Your help will be apprciated!
Raj
On 1/25/07, Gordon Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 12:30 + 25/1/07, John wrote:
>Fi
On 31/01/07, James Cridland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/30/07, Davy Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Thought this might be the ideal crowd...
>
> I am looking for a free (or cheap) hosting for MP3 files for my
> various auto-generated podcasts such as Mood News and
> comp.lan
Hmn, well, the BFI is... Is it government funded? I'm not sure (checks site)
"Total income remained consistent at £30.9m. Grant-in-Aid income from the UK
Film Council, at
£14.5m, was unchanged from 2003, except that £1.33m of the 2005 grant was
paid-over ahead of
schedule in 2004 and is shown wi
http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/api/query.pl?method=bbc.channel.getLocations&channel_id=BBCROne&format=simple
...defines
real-audio
multicast-real
multicast-aac
...as location types.
Virgin Radio will support this API shortly; but we need additional audio
formats for this - possibly l
On 1/30/07, Davy Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi All,
Thought this might be the ideal crowd...
I am looking for a free (or cheap) hosting for MP3 files for my
various auto-generated podcasts such as Mood News and
comp.lang.python.
Not free, but certainly very, very cheap and hellishl
> Brian Butterworth wrote:
> >> It permits you, as you keep quoting it, to make a recording of a
> >> broadcast to let you view or listen to it at a more
> convenient time
> >> (timeshifting); it does *not* let you make copies of that
> recording
> >> (sharing). As I said, and you ignored, a
Hi Kim,
On 30/01/07, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
BTW - stumbled across this last night
http://www.bfi.org.uk/filmtvinfo/ftvdb/
Might be useful, or at least somewhere to poke to open up their data,
too? (Did the Movies Data list get set up?)
The BFI data looks a little harder to ac
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