Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
Hi all, Weirdly, Google doesn't provide a way to link to its handy "responses summary" page for a form, so you can have the raw data instead (names & email addresses removed). There weren't a massive number of responses to this, but it makes for some interesting reading as a finger-in-the-air survey of issues. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AtjAsC_LIC-ndDc3MzV3ZjVKdUZuY2NkQm1BakdJQkE&hl=en_GB&authkey=COfsk80M#gid=0 Thanks to everybody who filled it in! M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 14:13, Gareth Davis wrote: > I couldn't tell you what the official BBC position is on IPv6. But it > has been an ongoing agenda item for some months at the Online Operations > meetings, and we are well aware that we do have to adopt it sooner > rather than later. R&D have been doing some work in the area, and there > was (and may still be) a frontend server for the news site accessible > over pure IPv6. > > How we transition the public facing infrastructure is still up for > discussion (using some kind of proxy, a pure implementation or some > hybrid of the two) as we have well over a decade of legacy to consider, > which has the potential to behave in all sorts of new and exciting ways > when exposed to IP addresses greater than 32 bits long :) Thanks Gareth -- you've been tremendously useful! M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
I couldn't tell you what the official BBC position is on IPv6. But it has been an ongoing agenda item for some months at the Online Operations meetings, and we are well aware that we do have to adopt it sooner rather than later. R&D have been doing some work in the area, and there was (and may still be) a frontend server for the news site accessible over pure IPv6. How we transition the public facing infrastructure is still up for discussion (using some kind of proxy, a pure implementation or some hybrid of the two) as we have well over a decade of legacy to consider, which has the potential to behave in all sorts of new and exciting ways when exposed to IP addresses greater than 32 bits long :) -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH * bbcworldservice.com > -Original Message- > From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk > [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts > Sent: 13 August 2010 09:37 > To: BBC Backstage Mailing List > Subject: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire > > Happy Friday 13th Everybody! > > This month, I'm running a short questionnaire (should only > take a couple of minutes to complete) on IPv6 planning and > adoption in the UK. Not the most exciting of topics, I > realise, but *quite* important in some respects. > > Some of you will undoubtedly have seen this mentioned > elsewhere, and may even have filled it in (if so, thanks!). > For the rest, though, I'd appreciate it if you could take a > couple of minutes to have a look. > Some answers from within bits of the BBC would be grand if > it's at all possible, but I know it's relevant to a number of > others on the list, too. > > You can find the questionnaire at: > > https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDc3MzV3ZjVKd > UZuY2NkQm1BakdJQkE6MQ > > I'll be closing it on Friday 3rd September in time for UKNOF17 > (http://uknof.org.uk/) -- I'm not presenting the results, but > I will be publishing the stats in time for the meeting on the > offchance that there are related sessions on the agenda. > > Cheers! > > M. > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > unsubscribe, please visit > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
Not off the top of my head. I'll have a look monday. a Sent from my HTC -Original Message- From: Fearghas McKay Sent: 13 August 2010 11:26 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire On 13/08/2010 11:11, Ant Miller wrote: > We got contacted by a researcher on an eu project looking at this question. Can you remember which eu project ? f - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:11, Ant Miller wrote: > We got contacted by a researcher on an eu project looking at this question. > I pointed them to core tech strategy types. Not sure what response was. > > FOI time? Would need carefully framing. I have been pondering that route -- I don't particularly like FOI requests, mind. the staff in that dept are very nice, but they do wield a hefty stick on everyone else, and I don't like making (much) trouble unless there's a pressing reason... we'll see how it goes. some off-the-record gesticulation would probably be easiest to get. M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
On 13/08/2010 11:11, Ant Miller wrote: > We got contacted by a researcher on an eu project looking at this question. Can you remember which eu project ? f - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
We got contacted by a researcher on an eu project looking at this question. I pointed them to core tech strategy types. Not sure what response was. FOI time? Would need carefully framing. a Sent from my HTC -Original Message- From: Matt Hammond Sent: 13 August 2010 10:55 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire Hi Mo, I was looking at the question: "What is your current level of IPv6 deployment?". Either you've added the "No plans at all" question, or I missed it first time around! Either way, I have no concerns about this now. cheers Matt On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:13:43 +0100, Mo McRoberts wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:48, Matt Hammond > wrote: > >> Your questionnaire doesn't seem to have any provision for people to >> answer >> that they are "not doing anything about". To clarify: you only want >> submissions from people actively considering, deploying or who have >> deployed? > > All of the above, if at all possible! > > Which question was troubling you -- I can tweak the answers if needs-be? > >> PS: I've no idea about what the BBC is or is not doing with regards to >> IPv6. > > Neither do I, and that's worrying me somewhat. I would imagine that > the negotiations required will be... horrible, given the various > levels outsourcingness. > > Cheers, > > M. > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, > please visit > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, BBC R&D, Centre House, London | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:55, Matt Hammond wrote: > Hi Mo, > > I was looking at the question: "What is your current level of IPv6 > deployment?". Either you've added the "No plans at all" question, or I > missed it first time around! Either way, I have no concerns about this now. You're not going mad -- I took a wild guess that was the question you meant and added the option in :) Cheers! M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
On 13/08/2010 10:55, Matt Hammond wrote: I was looking at the question: "What is your current level of IPv6 deployment?". Either you've added the "No plans at all" question, or I missed it first time around! Either way, I have no concerns about this now. That was my (only) response! Gordo -- Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com http://www.joly.org.uk/ Don't Leave Space To The Professionals! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
Hi Mo, I was looking at the question: "What is your current level of IPv6 deployment?". Either you've added the "No plans at all" question, or I missed it first time around! Either way, I have no concerns about this now. cheers Matt On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:13:43 +0100, Mo McRoberts wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:48, Matt Hammond wrote: Your questionnaire doesn't seem to have any provision for people to answer that they are "not doing anything about". To clarify: you only want submissions from people actively considering, deploying or who have deployed? All of the above, if at all possible! Which question was troubling you -- I can tweak the answers if needs-be? PS: I've no idea about what the BBC is or is not doing with regards to IPv6. Neither do I, and that's worrying me somewhat. I would imagine that the negotiations required will be... horrible, given the various levels outsourcingness. Cheers, M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, BBC R&D, Centre House, London | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:48, Matt Hammond wrote: > Your questionnaire doesn't seem to have any provision for people to answer > that they are "not doing anything about". To clarify: you only want > submissions from people actively considering, deploying or who have > deployed? All of the above, if at all possible! Which question was troubling you -- I can tweak the answers if needs-be? > PS: I've no idea about what the BBC is or is not doing with regards to IPv6. Neither do I, and that's worrying me somewhat. I would imagine that the negotiations required will be... horrible, given the various levels outsourcingness. Cheers, M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
Hi Mo, Your questionnaire doesn't seem to have any provision for people to answer that they are "not doing anything about". To clarify: you only want submissions from people actively considering, deploying or who have deployed? regards Matt PS: I've no idea about what the BBC is or is not doing with regards to IPv6. On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:37:16 +0100, Mo McRoberts wrote: Happy Friday 13th Everybody! This month, I'm running a short questionnaire (should only take a couple of minutes to complete) on IPv6 planning and adoption in the UK. Not the most exciting of topics, I realise, but *quite* important in some respects. Some of you will undoubtedly have seen this mentioned elsewhere, and may even have filled it in (if so, thanks!). For the rest, though, I'd appreciate it if you could take a couple of minutes to have a look. Some answers from within bits of the BBC would be grand if it's at all possible, but I know it's relevant to a number of others on the list, too. You can find the questionnaire at: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDc3MzV3ZjVKdUZuY2NkQm1BakdJQkE6MQ I'll be closing it on Friday 3rd September in time for UKNOF17 (http://uknof.org.uk/) -- I'm not presenting the results, but I will be publishing the stats in time for the meeting on the offchance that there are related sessions on the agenda. Cheers! M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, BBC R&D, Centre House, London | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
Happy Friday 13th Everybody! This month, I'm running a short questionnaire (should only take a couple of minutes to complete) on IPv6 planning and adoption in the UK. Not the most exciting of topics, I realise, but *quite* important in some respects. Some of you will undoubtedly have seen this mentioned elsewhere, and may even have filled it in (if so, thanks!). For the rest, though, I'd appreciate it if you could take a couple of minutes to have a look. Some answers from within bits of the BBC would be grand if it's at all possible, but I know it's relevant to a number of others on the list, too. You can find the questionnaire at: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDc3MzV3ZjVKdUZuY2NkQm1BakdJQkE6MQ I'll be closing it on Friday 3rd September in time for UKNOF17 (http://uknof.org.uk/) -- I'm not presenting the results, but I will be publishing the stats in time for the meeting on the offchance that there are related sessions on the agenda. Cheers! M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/