Thought this might be interesting,
So a few weeks after Mario posted about Psiphon,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/persian/2006/11/post_143.html - (obviously in
farsi)
I find that the links tell you everything you need to know. Comment 16
specially. Comment 20 seems to be a proxy which
Second Life. And starts a blog.
Kim
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Hi
Yes, actually most kids my sons age - 20 ish
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Yes, actually most kids my sons age - 20 ish don't watch tv at all.
They might watch YouTube occassionally but mostly they are either
watching
Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I keep meaning to draw this out and post it on my blog
I am suprised at the level of heavy breathing going on about Grade's
departure. Clearly there is very little vision in the executive branch
of the television industry right now.
I think it's time
Ian, why don't you apply for the job of Chairman of the BBC?
I think the Chairman is more of a strategic hands-off job, and I'm
sure Ian would miss getting his hands dirty with widget code :-)
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?)
:)
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Yes, actually most kids my
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Ian,
As a geriatric, I am
Ian Forrester wrote:
I keep meaning to draw this out and post it on my blog
Aw, fuff. I'm too busy writing individual, pithy-oid
quips on mailing lists to post things in my blog.
(Hold on, I think I'm having an epiphany...nope, just gas.)
--- my own thoughts on TV generations ---
Maybe
I hear about a really cool programme, such as 'Itchy and Scratchy
meet the Fairly Odd Parents -- on ice!', which was so subversive
they'll *never* be allowed to show it again.
Just you wait until my until-now secret project; 100 Greatest
Asbestos Removal Disasters gets aired...
Oh - and if
November 2006 5:30 a.m.
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Ian,
As a geriatric, I am pleased to be 3rd Generation, with a hint of 4th !!
I'm looking forward to real virtual reality as well, been waiting
since 1987 although Second Life isn't up my street
From P Edwards (Monday, November 27, 2006 11:19 PM):
I think it is pretty laughable :-)
I am very happy to pay for quality and expensive programming,
but being censored from the same, just because of a legal
precedent, is almost the ultimate insult, especially if one
does have a UK TV
In my hallucination, it should take one person within
Auntie's legal department about a month to change the
contracts for content production, add some budget for servers
and bandwidth, to make the biggest change to how the BBC
works since radio gave way to black and white TV.
I reckon
On the other hand, UKTV is part (50%?) owned by the BBC, so there *are* new
ways the Beeb can work, and the Beeb is capable of finding them. Which is a bit
of a surprise, but a pleasant one.
--
Lee Goddard
Independent Contractor, Software Development/Analysis
BBC Radio * Room 718 ยท Henry
Hi Lee,
I accept your points, at the same time though, the British are being sold on
this idea of privacy with a number, an ID number. Well, as a public Corporation
the BBC could reverse that thinking and treat us all as UK residents wherever
we are in the world already.. it is still far
I would love to see the BBC reverse its thinking and engage us, as
the public, in allowing much more access, even if they have to
pressure government to change the law.
There is nothing to fear :-)
oh we know that - honestly, we really do. we're in the business of
maximising the value our
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Hi Lee,
I accept your points, at the same time though, the British
are being sold on this idea
.
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Its certainly interesting.
Something I was reading the other day
http://torrentfreak.com/downloading-tv-shows
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I see your 'written by a Torrent site' and raise you a 'written by a
broadcaster'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6168950.stm
Some 43% of Britons who watch video from the internet or on a mobile
device at least once a week said they
I agree with Tom, too much can be read into data like this. Just to add some
more data to the mix, and for a different slant: Consumers cool on video
downloads: http://www.mrweb.com/drno/frmemail/article6175.htm
(what have I started here... this has moved into a direction I wasn't
thinking of
/bbc_online_view.html
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I see your 'written by a Torrent site' and raise you a
'written by a broadcaster
As far as I am aware, every song on TOTP up until 1983 was
re-recorded so that the BBC owned the rights of broadcast in the
charter it clearly states that the BBC must distribute its content to
the UK public. so where is all that music that I payed for :-)
A lot of it got discarded,
On 28/11/06, Richard Hyett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I trust more the evidence of my own eyes, not some survey that I haven't
read.
The evidence of my own eyes is that the HiFi in family homes is gathering
dust, or has become the ocassional play thing of the senior member, the kids
use the
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Hyett
It seems obvious to me that this transition, led by music will mean
that they spend more time on the PC, watching than they do on the TV.
Its a generational thing
Yeah: keep the kids away
On 28/11/06, Lee Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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It seems obvious to me that this transition, led by music will mean that
they spend more time on the PC, watching than they do on the TV.
Its a generational thing
So the facts support the premise that the BBC can embrace this
audience, or let someone else... Google/MSN earn the profit and pay
the BBC for the right.
Is it wrong for the public to be afforded the same right, as in this
case, we are contributors to the original cost of production?
Tom,
now since there are only so many hours in the day, it's
pretty certain that TV's dominance in terms of time (and it's
*hugely dominant, even for kids) will be challenged - but
yotube won't kill TV - it'll change it, just like TV changed
radio, but radio listening is more popular than
Yes, actually most kids my sons age - 20 ish don't watch tv
at all. They might watch YouTube occassionally but mostly
they are either watching DVD's on their wide screen laptops,
or creating their own content with digi-cams, photoshop
artwork, websites or generally out and about
Speaking
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Yes, actually most kids my sons age - 20 ish don't watch tv
at all. They might watch YouTube
Just stumbled upon this, and thought it may be of interest to some folks on
the list: http://psiphon.civisec.org
According to the front page, psiphon is a human rights software project
developed by the Citizen Lab http://www.citizenlab.org/ at the Munk Centre
for International Studies that
Wow, I will be watching the next World Cup live on the BBC then. ;-)
If this does what I think it will, then the resulting discussion
will, again, have consequences for everyone. Personally, I like the
idea of sharing and from this side of the Channel, the UK is a state
that censors.
I
November 2006 11:53
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Wow, I will be watching the next World Cup live on the BBC then. ;-)
If this does what I think it will, then the resulting discussion will,
again, have consequences for everyone. Personally, I like the idea
On 11/27/06, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What happens when setting up a proxy service is as easy as running an
application and using one is as easy as typing in a url?
isn't that what Torpark is all about?
http://www.torrify.com/
--
Jakob.
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On 11/27/06, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What happens when setting up a proxy service is as easy as running an
application and using one is as easy as typing in a url?
isn't that what Torpark is all about?
http
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I believe that the music market place has already answered your
question Ian
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