Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-16 Thread Brian Butterworth
. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 15 August 2007 10:10 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject: *Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links On 15/08/07, *Simon Cobb* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-15 Thread Simon Cobb
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 14 August 2007 18:12 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links I guess this brings us right back to Richard MacDuff's Anthem programme which attempted much the same but with music in the first Dirk Gently

Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-15 Thread Brian Butterworth
rather than a debunking. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 14 August 2007 18:12 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links I guess this brings us

RE: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-15 Thread Simon Cobb
. I'm done here. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 15 August 2007 10:10 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links On 15/08/07, Simon Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-15 Thread Jason Cartwright
] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 14 August 2007 18:12 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links I guess this brings us right back to Richard MacDuff's Anthem programme which attempted much the same but with music

Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-15 Thread Brian Butterworth
:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 15 August 2007 10:10 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links On 15/08/07, Simon Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim said: Useful or Playful? Is the question

Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-15 Thread Brian Butterworth
*Subject:* Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links I guess this brings us right back to Richard MacDuff's Anthem programme which attempted much the same but with music in the first Dirk Gently book (coming soon to Radio 4)... On 14/08/07, *Kim Plowright* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-15 Thread Matthew Cashmore
: Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links On 15/08/07, Simon Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim said: Useful or Playful? Is the question to ask. I'd argue that useful and playful can be part of the same thing. Certainly nothing ever stuck with me that I

[backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-14 Thread Simon Cobb
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/08/02/data-visualization-modern-app roaches/ Now, I'd like to see the musicovery.com approach applied as an alternative nav for the bbc radio player: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/index.shtml?button From: Simon Cobb

RE: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-14 Thread Ian Forrester
Subject: [backstage] more data visualisation links http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/08/02/data-visualization-modern-approaches/ Now, I'd like to see the musicovery.com approach applied as an alternative nav for the bbc radio player

Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
Some of these seem to be of dubious real use. Has anyone put any of them though Jakob Nielsen-style user testing? For example, I got taught to use mind-maps back at school in '86, but the whole point of them is that you create them personally to help you to use a visual system to help memorise

RE: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-14 Thread Simon Cobb
: 14 August 2007 14:54 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links Some of these seem to be of dubious real use. Has anyone put any of them though Jakob Nielsen-style user testing? For example, I got taught to use mind-maps back at school in '86

Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
? 1994. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 14 August 2007 14:54 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links Some of these seem to be of dubious real use

RE: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-14 Thread Ian Forrester
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Cobb Sent: 14 August 2007 15:25 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] more data visualisation links Every time with the Jakob. I've

Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-14 Thread Kim Plowright
I think the point here is 'does the visualisation of the data adds meaning, or is just pretty to look at?'. Does your visualisation tell people more about the data set than the raw numbers? Is it 'legible'? Does it expose trends and meaning that would otherwise be hidden to all but the most

Re: [backstage] more data visualisation links

2007-08-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
I guess this brings us right back to Richard MacDuff's Anthem programme which attempted much the same but with music in the first Dirk Gently book (coming soon to Radio 4)... On 14/08/07, Kim Plowright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point here is 'does the visualisation of the data adds