More DAB news...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/apr/15/digitaltvradio.radio
"Moretta, who is general manager of broadcast at National Grid Wireless, led
the consortium that was beaten by Channel 4 last year in the contest to
oversee the second generation of national commercial digital radio
> The first para is the claim is that the high transmission costs are
> currently making DAB unviable for commercial broadcasters. Many DAB
> stations are earning a profit - including, I understand, Planet Rock
and
> the Jazz - but nowhere near the kind of profit margins that commercial
> radio
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Not trying to 'call you out' or anything, but I note in a January article on
> Grauniad (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jan/23/digitaltvradio.radio)
> that,
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> *The number of digital radios is up nearly 50% on the
On 10/04/2008, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I presume they do the same for the Daily Service. LW Sport gets
> > carried on Five Live Sports Extra, hence it's not a problem.
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> From what I recall James Cridland telling me, the 5LSX service is created
> out of the general bitr
I presume they do the same for the Daily Service. LW
Sport gets
carried on Five Live Sports Extra, hence it's not a
problem.
From what I recall James Cridland telling me, the 5LSX service
is created out of the general bitrate pool and leaches capacity
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> *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [backstage] DAB rollout...
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> On 09/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Bit of luck you didn't move to where I live There is not digital
> anything here (no
On 09/04/2008, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Then you have GCap pulling out of DAB, the two stations closing down
> > (including Planet Rock, sniff)
>
> Planet Rock has had a reprive whilst they discuss sale options - and
> Global (who are taking over Gcap) are apparently more DAB
Some interesting responses guys, thanks for humouring me :) Contrary to how
it may seem occasionally, ;) I don't try to post stuff to here simply to
ruffle feathers (I find it absolutely fascinating to enter in to these kinds
of conversations with people actually involved in the broadcast industry!
Christopher Woods wrote:
Three years after the
BBC's digital radio rollout was first started with 6Music, the WorldDMB
decided to specify the inclusion of HE-AAC in the spec - yet, AAC had
been standardised in 1997. Foresight never came into the equation? BBC
R&D were testing AAC too back in t
Andrew Bowden wrote:
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> However when you have sizable audience bases, it's extremely difficult
> just to turn something off because something better has come along
> because people don't want to go out and buy new equipment. Such big
> switch-offs are rare
If we were to ditch everything and sta
Subject: RE: [backstage] DAB rollout...
> Then you have GCap pulling out of DAB, the two stations closing down
> (including Planet Rock, sniff)
Planet Rock has had a reprive whilst they discuss sale options - and
Global (who are taking over Gcap) are apparently more DAB friendly.
> Then you have GCap pulling out of DAB, the two stations closing down
> (including Planet Rock, sniff)
Planet Rock has had a reprive whilst they discuss sale options - and
Global (who are taking over Gcap) are apparently more DAB friendly.
> Plus my Dad prefers Radio 4 on FM because i
@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] DAB rollout...
On 09/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:
Bit of luck you didn't move to where I live There is not digital
anything here (not TV or DAB).
It'
;s always worth a try...
http://www.ukfree.tv/transmitters.php
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> Sent: 09 April 2008 05:35
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [backstage] DAB rollout...
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> I bought a
Bit of luck you didn't move to where I live There is not digital
anything here (not TV or DAB).
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Sent: 09 April 2008 05:35
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] DAB ro
James,
Another interesting point about technology sales is that DAB (like Freeview)
is actually sold at retail price, whereas almost everything else is sold at
a subsidized discount and then you pay for the price of the handset (ie,
mobile phone - iPhone in particular), set-top box (BSkyB) by sigi
I bought a Sony XDRS50B DAB radio last month so my wife could listen to BBC
London despite moving to Watford. As a result she loves DAB and has
converted a number of her friends.
For her it wasn't about quality; it was about convenience.
On 09/04/2008 03:47, "Christopher Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED
What concerns me is the pronounced slowdown in
consumer investment in digital radio technology.
5.5 million sets sold by end 2006
6.5 million sets sold by end 2007
Oh dear, that's not a 200% increase, DAB must be stillborn. Alert! Call the
police!
You put forth your argument well sir :P How
On 08/04/2008, James Cridland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Christopher Woods
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What concerns me is the pronounced slowdown in
> > consumer investment in digital radio technology.
>
> Well, there's maths for you.
>
> 1 set sold in 199
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> What concerns me is the pronounced slowdown in
> consumer investment in digital radio technology.
Well, there's maths for you.
1 set sold in 1994.
2 sets sold in 1995.
200% increase in DAB sets sold!!! Woot!!!
5.5
Yeah, I don't know why people are holding DAB+ up as the be all and end all,
I think if we think that we're all wearing those rose-tinted specs again.
That said, it would be a nice upgrade to receive, but they'd just think
"better quality at same bandwidths... OH WAIT, same quality at lower! More
c
Gareth Davis
> Andrew Bowden wrote:
> > You still have a Wavefinder? Blimey. I threw mine in the bin in a
> > fit of rage after it caused the signal to break up for about the
> > twentith time in the space of 30 minutes. That Wavefinder
> > caused me
> > so much stress and grief it was insan
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To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] DAB rollout...
Andrew Bowden wrote:
> You still have a Wavefinder? Blimey. I threw mine in the bin in a
> fit of rage after it caused the signal to break up for about the
> twentith time in the space of 30 minutes. That Wavefin
Andrew Bowden wrote:
> You still have a Wavefinder? Blimey. I threw mine in the
> bin in a fit
> of rage after it caused the signal to break up for about the twentith
> time in the space of 30 minutes. That Wavefinder caused me so much
> stress and grief it was insane.
>
I still have one, I f
> I know there's been discusson around DAB's quality, nationwide
> rollout, relative cost etc... An interesting aticle on El Reg today
> was (typically) biased, but it did have an interesting graph of year-
> on-year change of unit sales sales for DAB receivers
> http://www.thereg
> Agreed - even DVB-T radio channels are a higher bitrate...
> Unfortunately while that's viable, buying and installing a
> satellite dish & receiver is a bit out of the question for me
> :( I like my USB DAB radio, it's just so frustrating
> sometimes using it (for the various oft-discussed re
> Personally I think satellite radio may be a better option.
Agreed - even DVB-T radio channels are a higher bitrate... Unfortunately
while that's viable, buying and installing a satellite dish & receiver is a
bit out of the question for me :( I like my USB DAB radio, it's just so
frustrating some
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Christopher Woods
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sure we can all agree that the DAB receiver market is far from
> saturation. It doesn't bode well for the migration of radio to an
> all-digital platform if these are the kind of sales statistics we're getting
> afte
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