Brian Butterworth wrote:
The whole Astra 2D thing is a bit of a red herring.
The Television Without Frontiers directive (89/552/EEC CHAPTER
II, Article 2) allows for any terrestrial channel to be broadcast via
satellite in Europe
Gareth,
From what I remember (it was a while ago now), it is the bit about
retransmission:
Whereas the requirement that the originating Member State should verify that
broadcasts comply with national law as coordinated by this Directive is
sufficient under Community law to ensure free movement of
Iain Wallace wrote:
So it looks like C4 is shareholder-free.
Wow, every day is a school day. I never realised that. Even
so, none of my money is going towards Channel 4 so I don't
feel like it's any of my business how they digitally
distribute their programming.
In a sense, some of
2008/10/17 Kevin Hinde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Iain Wallace wrote:
So it looks like C4 is shareholder-free.
Wow, every day is a school day. I never realised that. Even
so, none of my money is going towards Channel 4 so I don't
feel like it's any of my business how they digitally
Doesn't the BBC also derive some of it's funding from non-license fee
activities? If this is the case then C4 and the BBC are both indirectly
funded by the tax payer and commercial activities although in different
proportions and to a different scale.
Since most residents are TV license payers
2008/10/17 Phil Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Doesn't the BBC also derive some of it's funding from non-license fee
activities? If this is the case then C4 and the BBC are both indirectly
funded by the tax payer and commercial activities although in different
proportions and to a different scale.
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2008/10/17 Phil Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dawkins knows why UKTV uses SSSL encryption on it's satellite
services, free to air channels get all the
Andrew Bowden wrote:
Even for smaller channels, there are benefits to being encrypted, such
as reduced EPG listing fees.
It costs less to tell people about your programmes if you encrypt them?
The reason being...?
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Andrew Bowden wrote:
Even for smaller channels, there are benefits to being encrypted,
such as reduced EPG listing fees.
It costs less to tell people about your programmes if you
encrypt them?
The reason being...?
Sky effectively subsidise certain costs for
Frank Wales wrote:
Andrew Bowden wrote:
Even for smaller channels, there are benefits to being encrypted,
such as reduced EPG listing fees.
It costs less to tell people about your programmes if you
encrypt them?
The reason being...?
The same company provides EPG and encryption
Quoting Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Andrew Bowden wrote:
Even for smaller channels, there are benefits to being encrypted, such
as reduced EPG listing fees.
It costs less to tell people about your programmes if you encrypt them?
The reason being...?
Sky give you a discount.
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2008/10/17 Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Frank Wales wrote:
Andrew Bowden wrote:
Even for smaller channels, there are benefits to being encrypted,
such as reduced EPG listing fees.
It costs less to tell people about your programmes if you
encrypt them?
The reason being...?
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Given there are no companies that have both unencrypted and
unencrypted channels on the EPG, it would still seem th at rule is part
of Sky's contacts...
Sky have unencrypted and encrypted
2008/10/17 ST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoting Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Andrew Bowden wrote:
Even for smaller channels, there are benefits to being encrypted, such
as reduced EPG listing fees.
It costs less to tell people about your programmes if you encrypt them?
The reason being...?
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Given there are no companies that have both unencrypted and
unencrypted channels on the EPG, it would still seem that rule is part
of Sky's contacts...
This is why, for example, Five can't just jump onto Freesat,
2008/10/17 Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Given there are no companies that have both unencrypted and unencrypted
channels on the EPG, it would still seem th at rule is part of Sky's
contacts...
Sky
2008/10/17 Gareth Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brian Butterworth wrote:
Given there are no companies that have both unencrypted and unencrypted
channels on the EPG, it would still seem that rule is part of Sky's
contacts...
This is why, for example, Five can't just jump onto Freesat, because
I note that Stephen Fry has posted this, which seems to cover it quite
well..
'I have opened myself to charges of the most monstrous hypocrisy by
championing open source and free software while simultaneously using
proprietary systems here and there, hither and yon. I hold my hand up to the
sin
: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc
I note that Stephen Fry has posted this, which seems to cover it
quite well..
'I have opened myself to charges of the most monstrous hypocrisy
by championing open source and free software while simultaneously using
Brian Butterworth wrote:
I note that Stephen Fry has posted this, which seems to cover it quite
well..
Hear hear. :-)
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Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Iain Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Similarly, if Channel 4 want to DRM all their media then it's entirely
their choice because they don't have my money and they aren't funded
by what amounts to a tax. If I was a Channel 4 shareholder I might
raise the
Similarly, if Channel 4 want to DRM all their media then it's
entirely their choice because they don't have my money and
they aren't funded by what amounts to a tax. If I was a
Channel 4 shareholder I might raise the same issues of DRM at an AGM.
You are a Channel 4 shareholder. In
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Brian Butterworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I note that Stephen Fry has posted this, which seems to cover it quite
well..
'I have opened myself to charges of the most monstrous hypocrisy by
championing open source and free software while simultaneously using
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Scot McSweeney-Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Iain Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Similarly, if Channel 4 want to DRM all their media then it's entirely
their choice because they don't have my money and they aren't
/
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Sent: 16 October 2008 07:19
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc
I note that Stephen Fry has posted this, which seems to cover it quite
well..
'I
2008 10:50
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Deirdre Harvey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I the only person in the world who finds Stephen Fry an
unutterable bore?
That's entirely likely.
:D Maybe I'm just
On Thursday 16 October 2008 14:21:18 Andrew Bowden wrote:
Nope. It's fully public - the Channel 4 Television Corporation officially.
Ahh, maybe I'm thinking of a discussion in 2004 where it mooted having a share
release then, leaving it at 51%. Obviously that never happened.
Michael.
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Dave Crossland wrote:
2008/10/15 Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yes, the fact that this will run on all the Linux PCs in
both my houseand office is a shockingly pro-Microsoft
move and must be stopped!
The fact that this will run only with proprietary software is
continuing the BBC's
I wonder how one can best persuade the relevant people at the BBC to lay
out, adopt and embrace a forward thinking strategy to allow end users to
access any and all of their services using only free software...
I suspect that, for the most part, it isn't the BBC that you need to convince.
Indeed I had been under the impression there was progress when Ashley
Highfield told me last November that long-term, DRM should be open
source or better yet, work should be done with rights holders to do
away with DRM.
In my conversations with people from PACT I got the distinct
impression that
…on any mobile device, set top box (STB), handheld, phone, web
pad, tablet or Tablet PC (other than Windows XP Tablet PCEdition and
its successors), game console, TV, DVD player, mediacenter (other
than Windows XP Media Center Edition and its
2008/10/15 Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yes, the fact that this will run on all the Linux PCs in
both my houseand office is a shockingly pro-Microsoft
move and must be stopped!
The fact that this will run only with proprietary software is
continuing the BBC's discriminatory policy against
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Phil Wilson wrote:
Yes, the fact that this will run on all the Linux PCs in both my houseand
office is a shockingly pro-Microsoft move and must be stopped!
My Linux box is PowerPC. But it is a great comfort to know that you
can run it.
- - Rob.
On Tue Oct 14 11:32:36 2008, Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote:
the backstage mailing list may be interested in these blog posts -
please do leave your comments
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/digital_media_anywhere.ht
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On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:51 +0100, Fred Phillips wrote:
Basing it on Adobe AIR is just as bad as having a proprietary BBC
program running on a native Windows clone (e.g., WINE). AIR still does
not support free software[1], and is as far from being platform
independent as the current client is.
On Tuesday 14 October 2008 11:58:09 Nick Reynolds-FMT wrote:
the backstage mailing list may be interested in these blog posts -
please do leave your comments
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/digital_media_anywhere.html
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