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From: Daniel Harris [*mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 February 2007 19:11
To: IWA-Europe/UK-Webcasting
Cc: Philip Haggar; James Cridland; Alex Wolfe
Subject: Re: [iwa-europe]
] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC
On 1/26/07, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can i ask what ur artist id and track id are:
var gimpdata=Steve Miller Band~391~The Joker~E148~A~Russ
Williams~williams~the music we all love~Contact
Russ~False~http
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland
Sent: 27 January 2007 23:26
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC
On 1/26/07, Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 128 character description could well be the ISRC
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC
Hi Michael,
The label's prefix is always in the ISRC code this may explain
further...
http://www.riaa.com/issues/audio/isrc_faq.asp
My understanding is that the code is attached to the original
Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
snipThey should never be the exact same audio object with different
[isrc] codes./snip
I'm just not sure this happens in practice. According to our production
staff ISRC codes are not as reliable as intended
Don't think i was too clear on the
For an extensive example of indexing of an artist's different
recordings, releases, mixes etc, take a look at the Hawkwind Codex -
all released Hawkwind tracks, in all different versions, and which
albums/singles each different version was on.
http://www.starfarer.net/hwcodex.html
Cheers,
R.
Bless you
That is cool
;)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
Sent: 30 January 2007 18:33
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC
For an extensive example of indexing
All tru
Brainz has advanced relationships to break Paul Simon and Art
Garfunkel into paul Simon and Art Garfunkel (bad example I know)
And for that matter Peter Andre and Jordan into Peter Andre and
Jordan
[http://tinyurl.com/2yxx76]
This link is to Amazon.co.uk which reminded
On 1/26/07, Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 128 character description could well be the ISRC code from the
original label.
It's not: it's in English, and is a description for the current artist. It
goes onto DABtext and our player. The final number is, I suspect, actually a
on here now? Hello love, if so!)
k
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wood
Sent: 24 January 2007 23:47
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC
I bumped into a fully fledged spec
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P Edwards
Sent: 26 January 2007 01:27
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the
BBC
James,
The 128 character description could well
Dear
--- Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
May I ask you who do you think music is made for?
Who makes the music?
If it comes from inspiration then it belongs to us
all!
Thereby hides the sins of man, he takes that which he
does not make and uses to feather his own nest!
Have a nice day!
The pubs are obviously open.
Cheers,
Rich.
On 1/26/07, Brian Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear
--- Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
May I ask you who do you think music is made for?
Who makes the music?
If it comes from inspiration then it belongs to us
all!
Thereby hides the sins of
] On Behalf Of Kim Plowright
Sent: 26 January 2007 10:46
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC
I've been lurking on the Musicbrainz dev list for years; iirc, there is
some hidden category to make duets/collaborations like that resolve
Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
All tru
Brainz has advanced relationships to break Paul Simon and Art
Garfunkel into paul Simon and Art Garfunkel (bad example I know)
And for that matter Peter Andre and Jordan into Peter Andre and
Jordan
[http://tinyurl.com/2yxx76]
BWA HA HA!
Vigin ids or do they tie into some other id schema?
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland
Sent: 25 January 2007 16:55
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC
it
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P Edwards
Sent: 26 January 2007 01:27
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC
James,
The 128 character description could well be the ISRC
Now - an aside - Musicbrainz was set up because of Gracenote.
If I understand correctly, the dataset that Gracenote CDDB is based on
was orginally an 'open' database with information contributed by the
public. It was sold, and changed its licensing structures away from the
original open
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Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC
Michael,
Ignoring for a while the question of why the BBC is now looking at
putting third-party music information services out of business, and
being constructive:
The major problem we've found working with any third
Of Richard P Edwards
Sent: 26 January 2007 01:27
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC
James,
The 128 character description could well be the ISRC code from the
original label.
If it is, then it contains a lot of those same details
James,
The 128 character description could well be the ISRC code from the
original label.
If it is, then it contains a lot of those same details, and is unique
across all manufactured CD's.
I would also be surprised if you haven't come across these guys
I bumped into a fully fledged spec for a music ontology the other day
[http://pingthesemanticweb.com/ontology/mo/], which looks like it hit
revision 1.0 in December. Seems it's sharing your position of wanting
to work with the musicbrainz model, but also wanting to extend it to
make it more
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