Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-02-19 Thread James Cridland
This might be interesting and/or relevant to this discussion... -Original Message- From: Daniel Harris [*mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 February 2007 19:11 To: IWA-Europe/UK-Webcasting Cc: Philip Haggar; James Cridland; Alex Wolfe Subject: Re: [iwa-europe]

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-30 Thread Michael Smethurst
] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC On 1/26/07, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can i ask what ur artist id and track id are: var gimpdata=Steve Miller Band~391~The Joker~E148~A~Russ Williams~williams~the music we all love~Contact Russ~False~http

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-30 Thread Michael Smethurst
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 27 January 2007 23:26 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC On 1/26/07, Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 128 character description could well be the ISRC

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-30 Thread Michael Smethurst
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC Hi Michael, The label's prefix is always in the ISRC code this may explain further... http://www.riaa.com/issues/audio/isrc_faq.asp My understanding is that the code is attached to the original

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-30 Thread Nic James Ferrier
Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snipThey should never be the exact same audio object with different [isrc] codes./snip I'm just not sure this happens in practice. According to our production staff ISRC codes are not as reliable as intended Don't think i was too clear on the

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-30 Thread Richard Lockwood
For an extensive example of indexing of an artist's different recordings, releases, mixes etc, take a look at the Hawkwind Codex - all released Hawkwind tracks, in all different versions, and which albums/singles each different version was on. http://www.starfarer.net/hwcodex.html Cheers, R.

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-30 Thread Michael Smethurst
Bless you That is cool ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood Sent: 30 January 2007 18:33 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC For an extensive example of indexing

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-29 Thread Gordon Joly
All tru Brainz has advanced relationships to break Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel into paul Simon and Art Garfunkel (bad example I know) And for that matter Peter Andre and Jordan into Peter Andre and Jordan [http://tinyurl.com/2yxx76] This link is to Amazon.co.uk which reminded

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-27 Thread James Cridland
On 1/26/07, Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 128 character description could well be the ISRC code from the original label. It's not: it's in English, and is a description for the current artist. It goes onto DABtext and our player. The final number is, I suspect, actually a

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Kim Plowright
on here now? Hello love, if so!) k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wood Sent: 24 January 2007 23:47 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC I bumped into a fully fledged spec

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Kim Plowright
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P Edwards Sent: 26 January 2007 01:27 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC James, The 128 character description could well

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Brian Nixon
Dear --- Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] May I ask you who do you think music is made for? Who makes the music? If it comes from inspiration then it belongs to us all! Thereby hides the sins of man, he takes that which he does not make and uses to feather his own nest! Have a nice day!

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Richard Lockwood
The pubs are obviously open. Cheers, Rich. On 1/26/07, Brian Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear --- Richard P Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] May I ask you who do you think music is made for? Who makes the music? If it comes from inspiration then it belongs to us all! Thereby hides the sins of

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Smethurst
] On Behalf Of Kim Plowright Sent: 26 January 2007 10:46 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC I've been lurking on the Musicbrainz dev list for years; iirc, there is some hidden category to make duets/collaborations like that resolve

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Nic James Ferrier
Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All tru Brainz has advanced relationships to break Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel into paul Simon and Art Garfunkel (bad example I know) And for that matter Peter Andre and Jordan into Peter Andre and Jordan [http://tinyurl.com/2yxx76] BWA HA HA!

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Smethurst
Vigin ids or do they tie into some other id schema? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 25 January 2007 16:55 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Smethurst
it From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P Edwards Sent: 26 January 2007 01:27 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC James, The 128 character description could well be the ISRC

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Brian Butterworth
Now - an aside - Musicbrainz was set up because of Gracenote. If I understand correctly, the dataset that Gracenote CDDB is based on was orginally an 'open' database with information contributed by the public. It was sold, and changed its licensing structures away from the original open

RE: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Smethurst
@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC Michael, Ignoring for a while the question of why the BBC is now looking at putting third-party music information services out of business, and being constructive: The major problem we've found working with any third

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-26 Thread Richard P Edwards
Of Richard P Edwards Sent: 26 January 2007 01:27 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC James, The 128 character description could well be the ISRC code from the original label. If it is, then it contains a lot of those same details

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-25 Thread Richard P Edwards
James, The 128 character description could well be the ISRC code from the original label. If it is, then it contains a lot of those same details, and is unique across all manufactured CD's. I would also be surprised if you haven't come across these guys

Re: [backstage] Music, (meta)data, musicbrainz and the BBC

2007-01-24 Thread David Wood
I bumped into a fully fledged spec for a music ontology the other day [http://pingthesemanticweb.com/ontology/mo/], which looks like it hit revision 1.0 in December. Seems it's sharing your position of wanting to work with the musicbrainz model, but also wanting to extend it to make it more