On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:40:22 +0200
"Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Toni Van Remortel wrote:
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> > dan wrote:
> >> toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i
> >> suggest mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup
> >> and is run on
i will put the wiki parts in place but someone else who is more familiar
with sourceforge should handle the setup of the cvs module.
i do this these are all great ideas.
On 10/11/07, Rodrigo Real <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi
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> David Nalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > On Thursday 1
Hi
David Nalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thursday 11 October 2007 16:30:57 Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote:
>> backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/>. Anyone willing to setup a sort of
>> skeleton for the wiki? I think that would be a lot better than having
>> a free for all and trying to fix it
ok, i like it. its pretty basic but that is good (KISS)
i have started some preliminary edits along the lines of the structure
list. i have put some of the page links on sidebar for easy navigation.
On 10/11/07, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Craig Barratt wrote:
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> >
Craig Barratt wrote:
Nils writes:
I don't know if spambots know how to operatie SF wiki's yet, but I'm
sure if they don't it won't be long before they do. But yeah, we can
see how things go... I found the wiki at .
You do need a SF.net login to edit, so I hope we are safe
for now.
Ah ok, g
On Thursday 11 October 2007 16:30:57 Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote:
> backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/>. Anyone willing to setup a sort of
> skeleton for the wiki? I think that would be a lot better than having
> a free for all and trying to fix it later.
>
> Nils Breunese.
I agree wholeheartedly,
only sourceforge members may edit. that is correct
On 10/11/07, Jack Coats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I think only registered users can edit anyway, if I remember right.
> So there is some 'social protection from vandalism.
>
> Yes, keeping it all in one place would be great!
>
> On Thu, 2007-
I think only registered users can edit anyway, if I remember right.
So there is some 'social protection from vandalism.
Yes, keeping it all in one place would be great!
On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 13:23 -0700, Craig Barratt wrote:
> Nils writes:
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> > > http://www.wiki.sourceforge.net/
> > >
> > >
Nils writes:
> I don't know if spambots know how to operatie SF wiki's yet, but I'm
> sure if they don't it won't be long before they do. But yeah, we can
> see how things go... I found the wiki at backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/>.
You do need a SF.net login to edit, so I hope we are safe
for now
Craig Barratt wrote:
Nils writes:
http://www.wiki.sourceforge.net/
(i'm not quite sure how membership/authorization work.)
I think that might be the option for continuity and everything will
be kept in the backuppc.sourceforge.net space. I think Craig may have
to 'enable' this somehow?
Nils writes:
> > http://www.wiki.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > (i'm not quite sure how membership/authorization work.)
>
> I think that might be the option for continuity and everything will
> be kept in the backuppc.sourceforge.net space. I think Craig may have
> to 'enable' this somehow?
I like
Paul Fox wrote:
Craig Barratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't have a proposal for a hosted site. Can someone volunteer
something that is sure to have a long available life? We might
consider code.google.com - it provides project hosting and a Wiki
but I don't know if it has the right featu
Craig Barratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't have a proposal for a hosted site. Can someone volunteer
> something that is sure to have a long available life? We might
> consider code.google.com - it provides project hosting and a Wiki
> but I don't know if it has the right features.
wh
Dan & others,
Thanks for the healthy and even-handed discussion.
I agree a Wiki would be great. I don't like the idea of a forum,
for many of the same reasons discussed.
The key thing to make a Wiki successful is committed support from
a critical mass of people. As you all know, I've never had
dan skrev:
> though the joomla idea is a little provocative, i do like a wiki
> better. just my opinion.
>
> how fine grained is mediawiki in security? can we have user levels and
> be able to lock useful articles down to only have a specific level of
> user able to modify it? that way the commu
Add my vote for a wiki but against forums
George
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though the joomla idea is a little provocative, i do like a wiki better.
just my opinion.
how fine grained is mediawiki in security? can we have user levels and be
able to lock useful articles down to only have a specific level of user able
to modify it? that way the community can have input but
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote:
>> So I'm more thinking about a Joomla based site. Joomla has lots of
>> Extensions that can provide structured functionality. Sure it needs a
>> good basic setup, but once that is done, the info stays in that structure.
>
> Just as a Joomla sit
Toni Van Remortel wrote:
dan wrote:
i havent research any mail list software but im sure something would
integrate with ldap and i think mediawiki can use ldap so it
should be
feasible. im not sure if our hosting voluteer is knowledgable with
ldap. i know im no pro at it!
MediaWiki can ea
Steen Eugen Poulsen a écrit :
> dan skrev:
>> toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i
>> suggest mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup and
>> is run on php. also phpbb is very nice for forums..
>
> Wiki might be nice, but forums?
Wery good idea.
dan wrote:
> i havent research any mail list software but im sure something would
> integrate with ldap and i think mediawiki can use ldap so it should be
> feasible. im not sure if our hosting voluteer is knowledgable with
> ldap. i know im no pro at it!
MediaWiki can easily be adapted to aut
dan skrev:
> toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i
> suggest mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup and
> is run on php. also phpbb is very nice for forums..
Wiki might be nice, but forums?
Your just forking a community and thats never a good ide
A wiki could be cool, but I only visit forums if they come up on a Google
hit when I am looking for info. I make an account to read things then, if I
need to, and abandon it immediately after. I never use forums otherwise.
At 07:42 AM 10/10/2007, Doug Lytle wrote:
>dan wrote:
> > i think the pr
i havent research any mail list software but im sure something would
integrate with ldap and i think mediawiki can use ldap so it should be
feasible. im not sure if our hosting voluteer is knowledgable with ldap. i
know im no pro at it!
On 10/10/07, Rob Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Dan,
Dan, thanks for taking initiative on this.
My vote is for a wiki and a mailing list.
The mailing list should obviously keep an archive, but ideally be more
searchable than the current sourceforge mailing list archive (which I
find to be quite painful). If signing up for the mailing list could
au
i have given my vote(wiki and forums = yes) but i think im done debating the
issue. this is all philosophy and philosophical debates rarely change
options and theirfore votes on a subject.
so the next step here is probably so send a request with the possible
solutions to the developers mailing li
les wrote:
> Neither forums nor email lists are great for accumulating answers to
> recurring problems in a way that others can find them. A wiki is
> perfect for that but it takes some manual intervention to gather
> information out of the the mail list and put it there in a more usable
> I second that. Forums are exceedingly slow, and they require you to remember
> to visit them.
> They only look good because MS Outlook is so *bad* as a mail client,
> anything else looks good by comparison. I suspect this accounts for 90% of
> their popularity.
I don't like forums either.
But I
Paul Fox wrote:
> > Requires yet another thing to sign into, another place I have to go to.
> > Mailing lists come to me, makes it easier to archive. When the network
>
> there seems to be a vacuum in the open-source world for a forum
> package that properly integrates mailing list access. ya
dan wrote:
> true enough.
>
> i have to say that project growth favors a forum over a mailing list.
>
> i guess i believe that the project should expand to become more well
> known and the obvious choice for expansion is forums.
I don't think that's obvious at all. Forums are good for people
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 11:03:50 Paul Fox wrote:
> doug wrote:
> > dan wrote:
> > > just curious, why not visit forums?
> >
> > Requires yet another thing to sign into, another place I have to go to.
> > Mailing lists come to me, makes it easier to archive. When the network
>
> there see
true enough.
i have to say that project growth favors a forum over a mailing list.
i guess i believe that the project should expand to become more well known
and the obvious choice for expansion is forums.
i wouldnt say im adamant about having forums and i wont fight you for it but
i should at l
dan wrote:
> im on the other side of the argument. i like forums as they are capable of
> attracting people that would not want the 'full involvement' of a mailing
> list. i also dont like the mixing of a mailling list and a forum, i think
> they both have their place and are both very good at s
I think a wiki would be a definite improvement. I've seen on the list a
few times where someone had a good solution to something and they needed
to request that it be added to the FAQ. This puts a burden on the
developers (since they seem to be the ones in control of the website)
and it's not nec
im on the other side of the argument. i like forums as they are capable of
attracting people that would not want the 'full involvement' of a mailing
list. i also dont like the mixing of a mailling list and a forum, i think
they both have their place and are both very good at servicing their target
Doug Lytle wrote:
dan wrote:
i think the project would certainly see more support and have faster
growth and improvement with a wiki and forums. just to
Wiki maybe, Forums I would never visit.
+1.
Nils Breunese.
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doug wrote:
> dan wrote:
> > just curious, why not visit forums?
> >
>
> Requires yet another thing to sign into, another place I have to go to.
> Mailing lists come to me, makes it easier to archive. When the network
there seems to be a vacuum in the open-source world for a forum
package
oops! i never went to backuppc.com before!
On 10/10/07, Toni Van Remortel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> dan wrote:
> > toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i
> > suggest mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup
> > and is run on php. also phpbb is v
On 10/10 10:43 , Doug Lytle wrote:
> dan wrote:
> > just curious, why not visit forums?
> >
> Requires yet another thing to sign into, another place I have to go to.
> Mailing lists come to me, makes it easier to archive. When the network
> connection or the forums are down, I can still access my
dan wrote:
> just curious, why not visit forums?
>
Requires yet another thing to sign into, another place I have to go to.
Mailing lists come to me, makes it easier to archive. When the network
connection or the forums are down, I can still access my archive.
Doug
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dan wrote:
> i think the project would certainly see more support and have faster
> growth and improvement with a wiki and forums. just to
Wiki maybe, Forums I would never visit.
Doug
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dan wrote:
> i think the project would certainly see more support and have faster
> growth and improvement with a wiki and forums. just to
Wiki maybe, Forums I would never visit.
Doug
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Ben Franklin quote:
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Temporary Safety,
Toni Van Remortel wrote:
dan wrote:
toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i
suggest mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup
and is run on php. also phpbb is very nice for forums..
Yes. I was planning on MediaWiki and phpbb :-)
I thought phpBB
dan wrote:
> toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i
> suggest mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup
> and is run on php. also phpbb is very nice for forums..
Yes. I was planning on MediaWiki and phpbb :-)
> who on the backuppc project would we ne
toni, do you have a lamp/samp/xammp etc php/sql enabled server? i suggest
mediawiki with is pretty straight forward and easy to setup and is run on
php. also phpbb is very nice for forums..
who on the backuppc project would we need to talk to? have them do
forums.backuppc.com
also, is the back
dan wrote:
> i think the project would certainly see more support and have faster
> growth and improvement with a wiki and forums. just to throw that out
> there. if someone can host it there are a few really nice wikis and
> forums in php out there. very easy to setup! also, i would be
> w
i think the project would certainly see more support and have faster growth
and improvement with a wiki and forums. just to throw that out there. if
someone can host it there are a few really nice wikis and forums in php out
there. very easy to setup! also, i would be willing to 'assist' in adm
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