Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2011-05-25 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/25/2011 5:02 AM, samuel_w...@t-online.de wrote: > Its not really easy to backup a backuppc, read in the mailing list rsync is > not a good idea because there a lot of hardlinks. > > Whats the best way to creat offline backups? First, if you are changing topics, please create a new thread rat

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-04-26 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Matthias Meyer wrote at about 11:43:23 +0200 on Monday, April 25, 2011: > Hi Jeffrey, > > Thanks for sending your perl script. Hmmm... not sure I even remember which of my scripts you are talking about... > Unfortunately I can't answer you because: > >- The following addresses had

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-04-25 Thread Matthias Meyer
Hi Jeffrey, Thanks for sending your perl script. Unfortunately I can't answer you because: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to smtp.secureserver.net.: <<< 550 5.7.1 SPF unauthorized mail is prohibit

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-03-15 Thread Matthias Meyer
Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: > > I think there is a 3rd camp: > 3. Scripts that understand the special structure of the pool and pc > trees and efficiently create lists of all hard links in pc > directory. > a] BackupPC_tarPCCOPY > Included in standard BackupPC installations. It uses a perl >

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-24 Thread Timothy J Massey
Les Mikesell wrote on 02/24/2011 05:21:27 PM: > On 2/22/2011 9:17 PM, Dennis Blewett wrote: > > What I'm also curious about is if I should be rsyncing any other files, > > thus allowing me to restore from the offsite backup in the case I lose > > everything and rebuild a backuppc configuration:

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-24 Thread Timothy J Massey
Dennis Blewett wrote on 02/24/2011 04:41:00 PM: > @ Tim > > I did *briefly* search before making this email thread. As I found > it similar to looking for the right kind of pants in a clothing > store, I made the thread with particular keywords with the hope that > Google would extract this em

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-24 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/22/2011 9:17 PM, Dennis Blewett wrote: > 13,849 items, totalling 3.8 GB > > It would appear that I have a feasible number of files. I'm not sure how > many more files I will have by the end of April, though. > > I've read about that "rsync -H" would be a practical command to use on > the backu

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-24 Thread Dennis Blewett
@ Tim I did *briefly* search before making this email thread. As I found it similar to looking for the right kind of pants in a clothing store, I made the thread with particular keywords with the hope that Google would extract this email rather than the others don't don't so *briefly* get to the p

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-24 Thread gregwm
i've been having good success with a script that selects only the most recent full and most recent incremental for each backup in the pc directory, as well as the set of backups last successfully transferred, and rsync's that set offsite, with -H. for me, this still deduplicates, and keeps a reaso

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-23 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
John Goerzen wrote at about 14:26:33 + on Wednesday, February 23, 2011: > Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom real-time.com> writes: > > > > > On 02/21 11:00 , Dennis Blewett wrote: > > > Will I come across many problems in later restoring the pool's data if I > > > just rsync /var/lib/backuppc to

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-23 Thread John Goerzen
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom real-time.com> writes: > > On 02/21 11:00 , Dennis Blewett wrote: > > Will I come across many problems in later restoring the pool's data if I > > just rsync /var/lib/backuppc to the server? > > Are there other files and folders I should be rsync'ing to the server? > > r

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-23 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 2/22/2011 11:13 PM, Timothy J Massey wrote: > Dennis Blewett wrote on 02/22/2011 10:17:29 PM: > > > 13,849 items, totalling 3.8 GB > > > > It would appear that I have a feasible number of files. I'm not sure > > how many more files I will have by the end of April, though. > > > > I've read abou

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-23 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Timothy J Massey wrote at about 23:13:52 -0500 on Tuesday, February 22, 2011: > Dennis Blewett wrote on 02/22/2011 10:17:29 PM: > > > 13,849 items, totalling 3.8 GB > > > > It would appear that I have a feasible number of files. I'm not sure > > how many more files I will have by the end o

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-22 Thread Timothy J Massey
Dennis Blewett wrote on 02/22/2011 10:17:29 PM: > 13,849 items, totalling 3.8 GB > > It would appear that I have a feasible number of files. I'm not sure > how many more files I will have by the end of April, though. > > I've read about that "rsync -H" would be a practical command to use > on

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-22 Thread Dennis Blewett
13,849 items, totalling 3.8 GB It would appear that I have a feasible number of files. I'm not sure how many more files I will have by the end of April, though. I've read about that "rsync -H" would be a practical command to use on the backuppc folder. What I'm also curious about is if I should

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-22 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
gregwm wrote at about 10:26:51 -0600 on Tuesday, February 22, 2011: > > rsync'ing the BackupPC data pool is generally recommended against. The > > number of hardlinks causes an explosive growth in memory consumption by > > rsync and while you may be able to get away with it if you have 20GB of

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-22 Thread Timothy J Massey
gregwm wrote on 02/22/2011 11:26:51 AM: > this issue sure comes up alot, and perhaps i should just keep quiet > since i personally am in no position to do it or even go off looking > for an rsync forum, nor do i have any knowledge of just how convoluted > the rsync source may be to try to look at

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-22 Thread gregwm
> rsync'ing the BackupPC data pool is generally recommended against. The > number of hardlinks causes an explosive growth in memory consumption by > rsync and while you may be able to get away with it if you have 20GB of > data (depending on how much memory you have); you will likely run out of > m

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc pool with rsync offsite

2011-02-22 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 02/21 11:00 , Dennis Blewett wrote: > Will I come across many problems in later restoring the pool's data if I > just rsync /var/lib/backuppc to the server? > Are there other files and folders I should be rsync'ing to the server? rsync'ing the BackupPC data pool is generally recommended against

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-31 Thread Les Mikesell
On 8/31/2010 12:09 PM, Josh Malone wrote: > Farmol SPA wrote: >> Hi list. >> >> I would like to ask which is the simplest yet effective way to dump >> backuppc stuff (mainly __TOPDIR__) eg to a removable hard disk that will >> be used in a disaster recovery scenario where the plant were destroyed >

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-31 Thread Josh Malone
Farmol SPA wrote: Hi list. I would like to ask which is the simplest yet effective way to dump backuppc stuff (mainly __TOPDIR__) eg to a removable hard disk that will be used in a disaster recovery scenario where the plant were destroyed and I need to restore data from this survivor device. Is

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-24 Thread Farmol SPA
Original Message Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom To: General list for user discussion, questions and support Date: Mon Aug 23 2010 17:42:43 GMT+0200 (ora Legale Europa Occidentale) > On 08/20 11:02 , Mirco Piccin wrote: >>

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-23 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Monday 23 Aug 2010 18:27:59 Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > On 08/23 05:04 , Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > > What was your disk configuration? Any RAID involved? > > It was RAIDed, don't remember the details. Possibly RAID 5 (yes, I know, > poor performance -- but low price, and acceptably fast for

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-23 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 08/23 05:04 , Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > What was your disk configuration? Any RAID involved? It was RAIDed, don't remember the details. Possibly RAID 5 (yes, I know, poor performance -- but low price, and acceptably fast for most needs). -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enter

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-23 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Monday 23 Aug 2010 16:42:43 Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > I've tried this in the past. Taking a snapshot of a live backuppc instance > and then backing up the snapshot (especially to tape, like I tried) turns > out to be murderously slow due to all the disk updates. > > At least to tape (whe

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-23 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 08/20 11:02 , Mirco Piccin wrote: > i usually use an LVM volume (easy to extend) as TOPDIR. > In this case a FAST solution could be the lvm volume snapshot. > Of course, you need to save also BackupPC conf files. I've tried this in the past. Taking a snapshot of a live backuppc instance and the

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Farmol SPA wrote at about 16:09:02 +0200 on Friday, August 20, 2010: > Original Message > Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc > From: Tyler J. Wagner > To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: Farmol SPA > Date: Fri Aug 20 2010 15:0

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Les Mikesell wrote at about 07:51:56 -0500 on Friday, August 20, 2010: > Farmol SPA wrote: > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc > > From: Mirco Piccin > > To: General list for user discussion, questions and su

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Les Mikesell
On 8/20/2010 9:46 AM, Farmol SPA wrote: > Original Message > Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc > From: Mirco Piccin > To: General list for user discussion, questions and support > > Date: Fri Aug 20 2010 16:28:05 GMT+0200 (ora Legale Europa O

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Farmol SPA
Original Message Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc From: Mirco Piccin To: General list for user discussion, questions and support Date: Fri Aug 20 2010 16:28:05 GMT+0200 (ora Legale Europa Occidentale) > the point is that a snapshot : > - is very fast, an

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Friday 20 Aug 2010 15:09:02 Farmol SPA wrote: > So, whenever I create the snapshot I have a "static" copy of the source > lv that I can copy with any method (eg rsync or netcat). At this point, > please forgive me, I don't see the advantage of LVM snapshots than using > directly the rsync approa

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Mirco Piccin
Hi > So, whenever I create the snapshot I have a "static" copy of the source > lv that I can copy with any method (eg rsync or netcat). At this point, > please forgive me, I don't see the advantage of LVM snapshots than using > directly the rsync approach on the "live" lv provided backuppc is > sl

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Farmol SPA
Original Message Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc From: Tyler J. Wagner To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Farmol SPA Date: Fri Aug 20 2010 15:00:37 GMT+0200 (ora Legale Europa Occidentale) > On Friday 20 Aug 2010 12:32:10 Farmol SPA wrote: &

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Friday 20 Aug 2010 12:32:10 Farmol SPA wrote: > A question: the source logical volume and the snapshot one must reside > in the same volume group for this feature to work? I believe a snapshot of a logical volume must necessarily reside in the same volume group, yes. So if you have an LV which

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Les Mikesell
Farmol SPA wrote: > Original Message > Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc > From: Mirco Piccin > To: General list for user discussion, questions and support > > Date: Wed Aug 18 2010 14:25:38 GMT+0200 (ora Legale Europa Occidentale) >>

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Farmol SPA
Original Message Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc From: Tyler J. Wagner To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Farmol SPA Date: Fri Aug 20 2010 12:48:15 GMT+0200 (ora Legale Europa Occidentale) > On Friday 20 Aug 2010 10:23:39 Farmol SPA wrote: >&g

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Friday 20 Aug 2010 10:23:39 Farmol SPA wrote: > TOPDIR resides on an LVM volume. I know about snapshots but I've never > tried them in practice. > > Is it difficult? How could I take a snapshot of a volume and put it on > another disk (external USB device not LVM)? It's easy. I've done it on t

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Farmol SPA
Original Message Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc From: Mirco Piccin To: General list for user discussion, questions and support Date: Fri Aug 20 2010 11:02:53 GMT+0200 (ora Legale Europa Occidentale) > > i usually use an LVM volume (easy to extend) as

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Mirco Piccin
Hi > I would like to ask which is the simplest yet effective way to dump > backuppc stuff (mainly __TOPDIR__) eg to a removable hard disk that will > be used in a disaster recovery scenario where the plant were destroyed > and I need to restore data from this survivor device. Is a "rsync -aH" > en

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-20 Thread Farmol SPA
Original Message Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc From: Mirco Piccin To: General list for user discussion, questions and support Date: Wed Aug 18 2010 14:25:38 GMT+0200 (ora Legale Europa Occidentale) > Hi, > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:00 PM, F

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-19 Thread Farmol SPA
Original Message Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc From: Les Mikesell To: General list for user discussion, questions and support Date: Wed Aug 18 2010 14:31:46 GMT+0200 (ora Legale Europa Occidentale) > If your archive is small and you have plenty of RAM you

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-18 Thread Les Mikesell
Farmol SPA wrote: > Hi list. > > I would like to ask which is the simplest yet effective way to dump > backuppc stuff (mainly __TOPDIR__) eg to a removable hard disk that will > be used in a disaster recovery scenario where the plant were destroyed > and I need to restore data from this survivor d

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2010-08-18 Thread Mirco Piccin
Hi, On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Farmol SPA wrote: > Hi list. > > I would like to ask which is the simplest yet effective way to dump > backuppc stuff (mainly __TOPDIR__) eg to a removable hard disk that will > be used in a disaster recovery scenario where the plant were destroyed > and I ne

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2009-10-30 Thread Cesar Kawar
I am currently backing up BackupPc using rsync 3.0.6 to a USB2 drive with no problems so far. The total amount of data being backed up is about 300 Gb with 5M files. The total time to sync all the BackupPc directories to the USB disk is about 1 hour. It's important to notice that the machine

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2009-10-30 Thread Jim Wilcoxson
On 10/28/09, Chris Owen wrote: > > Would like some advise on the best way to backup backuppc. I have a > 1TB USB drive that I would like to copy all of our backups to. Has > anyone done this? How easy is it to roll back from USB? Hi Chris - I have a backup program in beta, HashBackup, that I've

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2009-10-30 Thread Dan Pritts
> I have a setup with /var/lib/backuppc mounted to a 1 TB Firewire 800 > drive. From a standpoint local to BackupPC, it's transparent. With USB > you'll be limited to 480 Mbps minus overhead, but that's about the > only real consideration I'm aware of--and that's still 60 MB/s > theoretical, which

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2009-10-30 Thread Dan Pritts
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 09:25:31PM -0600, dan wrote: > You can tar up the whole pool directory and put it on an external drive > pretty easily. Serious question: of what value is a backup of (only) the pool directory? danno -- Dan Pritts, Sr. Systems Engineer Internet2 office: +1-734-352-4953

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2009-10-29 Thread Chris Owen
Hey Thanks for the posts back, I am going to have a look at the ideas posted here and will let you know how I get on and how I am going to do this. Thanks for your help. Chris Owen Sent from my iPhone On 29 Oct 2009, at 03:47, Shawn Perry wrote: If you are using LVM, just use pvmove and

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2009-10-28 Thread Shawn Perry
If you are using LVM, just use pvmove and vgsplit with only a little downtime. On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:25 PM, dan wrote: > You can tar up the whole pool directory and put it on an external drive > pretty easily. Just make sure that backuppc is not running when you do this > -OR- do an LVM sna

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2009-10-28 Thread dan
You can tar up the whole pool directory and put it on an external drive pretty easily. Just make sure that backuppc is not running when you do this -OR- do an LVM snapshot and then backup the snapshot. I have been using rsync to sync two servers for a long time but have recently started experimen

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2009-10-28 Thread Robert Kosinski
I have a setup with /var/lib/backuppc mounted to a 1 TB Firewire 800 drive. From a standpoint local to BackupPC, it's transparent. With USB you'll be limited to 480 Mbps minus overhead, but that's about the only real consideration I'm aware of--and that's still 60 MB/s theoretical, which you probab

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-10 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 11/10 06:37 , GATOUILLAT Pierre-Damien wrote: > > I probably did something like: > > > > old-machine# dd if=/dev/vg00/lv00 | gzip | nc newhost > > new-machine# nc -l -p | gunzip | dd of=/dev/vg00/backup > > I'm not sure that gzip works good with dd. I tested a dd / gzip and dd > alo

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-10 Thread GATOUILLAT Pierre-Damien
> > Or with netcat and dd like that : > > > > (new_server)#nc -l -p 1 > /dev/new_part > > > > (old_server)#dd if=/dev/old_part | nc -w 5 @IP_new_server 1 > > this is basically what I did when I had to move a 100GB > backuppc partition from one machine to another. it only took > about 1

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-10 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 11/10 04:49 , GATOUILLAT Pierre-Damien wrote: > Perhaps with dd ? Something like : > > (on the old server)#dd if=/dev/old_partition | ssh new_server dd > of=/dev/new_partition (perhaps indicate the bs= ? But with which ?) > > Or with netcat and dd like that : > > (new_server)#nc -l -p 10

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 16:49 +0100, GATOUILLAT Pierre-Damien wrote: > Perhaps with dd ? Something like : > (on the old server)#dd if=/dev/old_partition | ssh new_server dd > of=/dev/new_partition (perhaps indicate the bs= ? But with which ?) That approach will work as long as (a) the partiti

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-10 Thread GATOUILLAT Pierre-Damien
TED] > Cc : backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Objet : Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc > > On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 08:39 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:00 AM, daniel berteaud wrote: > > > > > >You can use rsync to do that

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-09 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 08:39 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:00 AM, daniel berteaud wrote: > > > >You can use rsync to do that, something like > > > >rsync -avP -H /old_location [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/new_location > > > >should do the trick > > > > > > You can also

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-09 Thread DHAJOGLO
On Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:00 AM, daniel berteaud wrote: > >You can use rsync to do that, something like > >rsync -avP -H /old_location [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/new_location > >should do the trick > > You can also just tar up the backuppc directory and move it as one chunk. You are going to h

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup backuppc

2006-11-09 Thread daniel berteaud
You can use rsync to do that, something like rsync -avP -H /old_location [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/new_location should do the trick Le Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:05:18 -0800 (PST), Ariyanto Dewo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Dear all, > I have a problem but not with my backuppc. The > backuppc is running f