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> My comment: Unlike Sanders' understanding of Judaism, Baha'is are not born
> into a covenent relation with God;
Dear Gary,
Ultimately we are all, Baha'i or non-Baha'i in a Covenantal relation
with God. See my article here:
http://bahai-islam.blogspot.com/
warmest,
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Covenantal nomism
>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Covenantal nomism', in opposition to merit theology, is the belief that 1st
century Palestinian Jews did not believe in works righteousness. Essentially,
it is the belief that one is brought into the Abraha
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Stephen:
Of course that is true. Any true and faithful follower of any of the traditions
initiated by God which you have mentioned can, in one sense, be said to be a
true and faithful follower of the underlying Eternal Faith of God (even though
perhaps in a very con
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Also, isn't there a sura in the Quran that could be interpreted as a prophesy
of the whole world becoming Muslim? Sura 110 Al-Nasr Divine Help, Divine
Support, Divine Victory, Divine Succor
110:1 When Allah's succour and the triumph cometh
110:2 And thou seest
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Stephen:
I think you are absolutely right. Through the ages vagueness has been a
fundamental aspect of prophecy. Lack of vagueness would imply a straight-line
deterministic future. Vaguness implies an open-ended cloud of possibilities,
shaped and sharpened by severa
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Stephen, you wrote:
That's still vague. One, it assumes only the Baha'i Faith will be exclusively
successful. Two, it assumes all other religions will have failed.
My response:
Do you realize that all religious systems have already failed? Have you read
the letters o
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Well, the Baha'i Writings certainly stress moderation, if that is what
you mean.
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Stephen Gray wrote:
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> That's not what I meant.
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> I mean is virtue at the end of the spectrum (like Plato thought) or in
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Dear Stephen,
Well we do assume that Baha'u'llah's revelation reflects God's will
for today. That may well be interpreted as saying our religion is
superior. I don't know any way around that which would not make the
Baha'i Faith entirely irrelevant. We do not presume th
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That's still vague. One, it assumes only the Baha'i Faith will be exclusively
successful. Two, it assumes all other religions will have failed. Three, it
assumes a superiority of the Baha'i Faith over all other religions. Four, it
assumes people recognizing it a super
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> Are virtue and vice defined according to Plato or Aristotle?
For Baha'is virtues are defined largely by the attributes of God, not
by Plato or Aristotle.
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Hi Stephen,
What I meant by "good" is that the World Order of Bahá'u'lláh will be
successful in a broken world. So the leaders of religions/denominations will
attack the Bahá'í Faith, this will lead to investigation of the truth and then
mass conversion.
Shoghi Eff
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Are virtue and vice defined according to Plato or Aristotle? Plato had a binary
view where virtue and vice were opposing traits. Aristotle by contrast had a
tertiary view where virtue was the golden mean between two vices.
Christianity took a Platonic definition of v
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Stephen wrote: >I have seen Baha'i blogs where a sense 3 usage of Baha'ullah's
writings combined with promoting >independent investigation of truth leads to
imply that every man, woman,
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These prophecies usage of vague wording doesn't specify conversion to the
Baha'i Faith. Belief in it's truth may increase, but that may result from an
increase in inclusivism/pluralism, people who believe that religion other than
their own are true as well as their ow
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Who is happy in the next life and who is not?
This passage has always struck me as indicative of a very inclusive and
even-handed policy concerning the souls of individuals from various belief
systems and the judgments of their actions:
Baha’u'llah, Gleanings from
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