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> dear Susan,
> but altogether it should be based on truth.and lead to truth,and not
> allusions n fictions.Do not u think so?
> the best/Rohani
Sure, I just think that the heart has reasons which reason knows not of.
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gt; Subject: Re: Baha'i proofs of the existence of God
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> Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 12:17 AM
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> It seems to me that the major function of 'proofs'
> r
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Don Calkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Nov 19, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
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>> I would agree in the sense that the classic philosophical "proofs" for
>> the existence of God are insuffic
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On Nov 19, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
I would agree in the sense that the classic philosophical "proofs" for
the existence of God are insufficient. But I don't believe that what
you wrote above is a genderally valid principle. (e.g. It is possible
for
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Gilberto Simpson wrote:
>>I would agree in the sense that the classic philosophical "proofs"
for the existence of God are insufficient. But I don't believe that what
you wrote above is a genderally valid principle. (e.g. It is possible
for women to prove the existenc
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please don;t assume hatcher's "proof" wasn't studied .
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Everything in the universe is either preceded by a cause"
assumption of the thing to be proven. fallacy.
;"the whole field of computers is based on the logic of relationships."
no. it's based on the profit pr
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Ian Kluge
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Please study William Hatcher's pro
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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Don Calkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The members of a set (Creation) can not prove the existence of something
> (God) outside the set.
I would agree in the sense that the classic philosophical "proofs" for
the existence of God are
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It seems to me that the major function of 'proofs' regarding the
existence of God is to establish that belief is not absurd.
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On Nov 18, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Dean Betts wrote:
> Please study William Hatcher's proof.
I did. As I remember, he either makes an unwarranted assumption or
changes a definition in mid-argument.
Don C
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Please study William Hatcher's proof.
The Baha'i Studies Listserv >The members of a set (Creation) can not prove
the existence of
>something (God) outside the set.
An excellent point. I think there will never be a convincing, logical
proof
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>The members of a set (Creation) can not prove the existence of
>something (God) outside the set.
An excellent point. I think there will never be a convincing, logical
proof of God's existence, because humans have been attempting
this for centuries, and still not eve
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On Nov 18, 2008, at 12:07 PM, firestorm wrote:
the Master's "proof" is a paraphrease of stuff from avicenna.
in the usa, hatcher did a revise of the same "proof."
it should gooogle.
all such proofs fail by the logical fallacy of assuming the thing
to be proven,
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the Master's "proof" is a paraphrease of stuff from avicenna.
in the usa, hatcher did a revise of the same "proof."
it should gooogle.
all such proofs fail by the logical fallacy of assuming the thing to be
proven, positive causation.
on the other hand, hatcher's p
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Dear David,
Given the poor and outrightly mistaken understandings of the proofs of God
found in Dawkins, Harris, Dennett and Hitchens, I would first determine if
your atheist correspondents actually understand the proofs given. Moreover,
did you direct them to Godel
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