Re: Two Adams??

2003-11-03 Thread Jeanne Inamuco
Title: Re: Two Adams?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:19:54 EST To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Two Adams?? In a message dated 10/27/03 11:15:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A friend has

RE: Two Adams??

2003-11-03 Thread Brill de Ramirez, Susan
, November 03, 2003 9:49 AM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re: Two Adams?? Dear Susan, I apologize for being so far behind in my reading. Thanks for your insights. Would you please clarify? Are you saying that the Adam that symbolizes the first human in an evolutionary is also the same man who

Re: Two Adams??

2003-11-03 Thread Smaneck
In a message dated 11/3/03 7:47:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you saying that the Adam that symbolizes the first human in an evolutionary is also the same man who is understood to be a Manifestation (the first?) of God? Dear Jeanne, The term Adam literally

RE: Two Adams??

2003-11-03 Thread Brill de Ramirez, Susan
P.S. For Susan B. Don't Jews see themselves as 'white folks'? Yes, I should have written gentiles which would have been the more common referent. As a Native Studies professor, I slipped into the referent used in Indian country from non-Indians. Within the Jewish community, non-Jews are

Re: Two Adams??

2003-11-03 Thread Susan Maneck
Re: Two Adams??She seems to think that she saw it in an article in the Baha'i Studies Journal and that the statement was attributed to Abd'ul- Baha. That wouldn't happen to ring any bells for you, would it? Dear Jeanne, The only reference i know to *two* Adams is from the New Testament where

Re: Two Adams??

2003-11-01 Thread Susan Maneck
The 10,000 to 100,000 year mentioned by the Master seems to indicate the beginning of human race around that time in my opinion. Aside from being a confirmation of current scientific thinking, does it matter, from a scientific point of view, when the Master said that the human race started?

Re: Two Adams??

2003-11-01 Thread Mark A. Foster
Susan, I wrote: Aside from being a confirmation of current scientific thinking, does it matter, from a scientific point of view, when the Master said that the human race started? You responded: I suspect that the reason 'Abdu'l-Baha gave two figures is because He was signaling the fact He

Re: Two Adams??

2003-10-31 Thread M Chase
The origin of H. sapiens has not yet reached an overwhelming consensus, and the answer depends to some extent on which group of researchers you happen to sample. The multiregional evolution model proposes an earlier origin for H. sapiens than the Eve or Out-of-Africa model. One of the

Re: Two Adams??

2003-10-31 Thread Mark A. Foster
The 10,000 to 100,000 year mentioned by the Master seems to indicate the beginning of human race around that time in my opinion. Aside from being a confirmation of current scientific thinking, does it matter, from a scientific point of view, when the Master said that the human race started?

Re: Two Adams??

2003-10-30 Thread M Chase
If you accept the evidence for the Eve or the out of Africa theory, science has already confirmed the origin of our present species 100,000 years ago. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 10,000 to 100,000 year mentioned by the Master seems to indicate the beginning of human race around that time in

Re: Two Adams??

2003-10-30 Thread Susan Maneck
If you accept the evidence for the Eve or the out of Africa theory, science has already confirmed the origin of our present species 100,000 years ago. Dear Marlene, I think even without the 'Eve' theory Homo Sapiens are supposed to emerge about 100,000 years ago aren't they? The Agricultral

Re: Two Adams??

2003-10-28 Thread Susan Maneck
Dear Susan You're right. I have seen what you say about the age of this world, but I couldn't find an answer to this Word of `Abdu'l-Baha about `ten thousand years'. Could you look at it in Makatib or second volume of Ma'idih (vol. 2, chapter 35)? (you can find it in both books) Dear Faruq,

Re: Two Adams??

2003-10-27 Thread Susan Maneck
A friend has mentioned that she seems to remember reading something from either Shoghi Effendi or Abdu'l-Baha where he stated that the Adam of the Garden of Eden was not the same Adam who was the Manifestation of God. Dear Jeanne, I thought I'd answer this post earlier, but for some reason

Re: Two Adams??

2003-10-27 Thread M Chase
Yes, you are right, we are all the same "species" Homo sapiens, which I think is what you meant. Races are actually subspecies in terms of classification. Whether or not we are all descended from Eve remains unclear, despite its popularity in the mass media. Scientific consensus is not