Humility and Abu'l-Fadl

2004-02-05 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
One of my favorite narratives regarding humility and its manifestation. The following story gives us a glimpse of his greatness. In the early years of this century, 'Abdu'l-Bah sent Mirza Abu'l-Fadl to the United States of America to teach and help the believers deepen in the Faith. After his

Prophecy

2004-01-23 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Patti said: One thing I find interesting about the biblical prophecy concerning the timing in Daniel is that it appears that it can be interpreted in the same manner it was interpreted to validate Christ (see St. Augustine's City of God, Book 18 Chapter 34 from the fifth century). I've pointed

The rise of the darker races and the Baha'i Cenenaries

2004-01-20 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Dear Baha'i Friends One ought not make too much out of timelines. Nevertheless I am struck by the juxtapositions of the change in fortunes of the darker races in the United States of America as they relate to the Baha'i Centenaries. The first Centenary is 1944. In 1941 a U.S. Supreme Court

Biblical information

2004-01-15 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
NOW my question is this. When you read St John's Gospel you see an emphatic statement that John the Baptist **was not** the Light Is this because the Evangelist writing the Gospel wished to powerfully invite the followers of the Baptizer to turn to Jesus Christ? What was the reason for this

Re: Moses and the Pentateuch

2004-01-15 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Thank you. However, I am not subscribed to the Baha'i Biblical Studies list. - Original Message - From: Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:22 PM Subject: Fw: Moses and the Pentateuch - Original Message -

Re: Moses and the Pentateuch

2004-01-15 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Well, thank you for performing the go-between function. - Original Message - From: Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Daniel Grolin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Moses and the Pentateuch Thank you.

Re: Temptation of Abraham

2004-01-13 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
The relationship, i.e. the communion that occurs between the Manifestation of God and God cannot be comprehended through the use of human understanding. Consider the following: Thereupon a Voice replied: I love, I dearly cherish this emblem. How can I consent that Mine eyes, alone, gaze upon

Re: Why 95

2004-01-10 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
That is very interesting. Thank you. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Why 95 In a message dated 1/9/2004 6:45:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is

Re: Exemption

2004-01-10 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Perhaps the effect of the ablution lasts for twenty-four hours, or until the repetitions have been completed; which ever is completed first. Richard. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:41 PM Subject:

Re: Exemption

2004-01-09 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
As well, David, consider that no particular posture is required as with the other obligatory prayers. Therefore a woman in her courses may lie down or sit or move around during the repetitions. Moreover, it appears that the maidservant can use the entire twenty-four hours to repeat the verse 95

Re: Eclecticism

2004-01-06 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Mark, Just out of curiosity: why did you use the term unity of religions in the post to which I responded? Richard. - Original Message - From: Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 6:20 PM Subject: Re: Eclecticism

Re: Eclecticism

2004-01-06 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Mark, You have broached this subject in past posts. And I indicated in a later post that your point was well made out. My superficial search indicated then, as it does now, that oneness of religions and unity of religions do not show up on Ocean in any authenticated Scriptures. Another

Virgin Birth

2004-01-05 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Of course, after all this, perhaps I'm reading too much into what Shoghi Effendi wrote, and he didn't mean to suggest the Virgin Birth should constitute good proof, but simply that it indicated Jesus' station (going by our belief that it happened). This last (reading too much into...) is

Re: Firmness in the Covenant

2004-01-05 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
David, Whenever he appears, He does what He pleases: Were He to decree as lawful the thing which from time immemorial had been forbidden, and forbid that which had, at all times, been regarded as lawful, to none is given the right to question His authority. Whoso will hesitate, though it

Re: Salvation

2003-12-30 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
David, I have wondered about the same thing with regard to those Baha'is who have nothing of the Writings to read in the morning and at eventide. If even Mirza Yahya will be forgiven in the next world if he repents, it would appear, perhaps, that reunion with God, notwithstanding one's previous

Re: Questions concerning Immaculate Conception

2003-12-27 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
If the concern regarding the idea that the Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary implies that Mary having been from the instant of *her* conception, by a singular privilege by the omnipotent grace of God, through the application of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the human race,

Prayers and Meditations

2003-12-26 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Does anyone have information as to the time period during which Baha'u'llah revealed the Prayers and Meditations found in the book of the same name? Thank you. Richard -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to

Re: Prayers and Meditations

2003-12-26 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Thank you Max. I should have been more specific. Is there any information that the Prayers and Meditations in the book of the same name were revealed between 1863 and 1873? Richard. - Original Message - From: Max Jasper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: Eclecticism

2003-12-25 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Gordon, Yet if I refer to the entirety as the Baha'i Faith, which appears to be a legitimate designation, then it is a matter of substance. Otherwise a new set of rules would be required for Baha'i Society. It may be a relatively minor matter however. Richard - Original Message -

Ecclectic?

2003-12-22 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Mark stated: Although the Baha'i Faith, the organization, is not syncretistic, it is, and, IMO, should be, eclectic Ceasing to designate to itself a movement, a fellowship and the like -- designations that did grave injustice to its ever-unfolding system -- dissociating itself from such

Abdu'r-Rahman ibn-Kaldun

2003-12-14 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
A note in Miracles and Metaphors points out that "Ibn-Khaldun, who has been called the founder of sociology, argued that religion can only succeed if it receives the backing of the prophet's people on the basis of kinship solidarity". Was he truly the founder of sociology? Why was he called

ibn-Khaldun

2003-12-14 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
I see that we have quite a collection of ibn-Khaldun's works at Amazon. -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ibn-Khaldun

2003-12-14 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
H. Gravelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:41 PM Subject: ibn-Khaldun I see that we have quite a collection of ibn-Khaldun's works at Amazon. -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Franz Rosenthal

2003-12-14 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Mark And his name is Franz Rosenthal on the frontispiece. Perhaps it is an error on the part of Amazon. Richard - Original Message - From: Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Franz Rosenthal

Re: Recent Talk in Sydney Australia by Dr Peter Khan. NotesbyCounsellorStephe...

2003-12-12 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Susan, I don't have the answer to that question.Is it possible that he was calling upon the Baha'i communities to rehabilitate western societies; when Baha'i communities in the western societies seem to have the same problems as the surrounding areas? If that is so, then he is calling upon

Significance of Prayer-a review (long)

2003-12-11 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Marleen's original post caught my attention because I had been reciting the Meditation and Prayer for two nights. Kazeh's examination is moving and infused with spiritual meaning. Below, I offer what has struck me about this last Prayer and Meditation CLXXXIV. The weightiness of the theme is

Re: Recent Talk in Sydney Australia by Dr Peter Khan. NotesbyCounsellorStephen Hall

2003-12-11 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
As Dr. Khan was speaking specifically of western society and its need for spiritual and social rehabilitation; he may have been calling upon the worldwide Baha'i community (which may be doing much better in the four areas he highlighted) to help the western societies. Richard. - Original

Re: Temple Designs by Mason Remey

2003-12-10 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Would have grounds or would not have grounds? - Original Message - From: Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:30 AM Subject: Re: Temple Designs by Mason Remey Has the House actually confirmed that the Remey design

Re: All religions are one

2003-12-10 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
- Original Message - From: "Mark A. Foster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Baha'i Studies" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: Re: All religions are one Richard, At 11:41 AM 12/10/2003 -0800, you wrote: I am not certain that a "reasonable person"

Re: Inquiry

2003-12-02 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
most everlasting of the Names." The information was obtained through a learned friend, as I myself know nothing in the Writings of the Bab. Faruq"Richard H. Gravelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much Faruq. If you will indulge one

Re: Inquiry

2003-12-01 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
, means guided. I've never seen something like AMHAD for it, which can mean more or most guided!"Richard H. Gravelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for the meaning (definition) of:Qayyum in relationship to Qaim. Does Mihdi also have a superlativ

Inquiry

2003-11-30 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
I am looking for the meaning (definition) of: Qayyum in relationship to Qaim. Does Mihdi also have a superlative? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you. Richard. -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL

Ulterior motive friendships

2003-11-29 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
I would think that a Bah'i would be interested in all individuals for the sake of God. -- You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Whether or Not this constitutes BACKBITING...

2003-11-14 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Susan, Thank you. It wasn't understandable anyway. Richard. - Original Message - From: Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Whether or Not this constitutes BACKBITING... Dear friends, That last post

The Lesser Covenant of the Bab

2003-11-08 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
This quote may shed some light upon the Lesser Covenant of the Bab From the silence which Quddus observed, as well as from the expression which his countenance betokened, Mulla Husayn concluded that no one else except his host could have penned those words. He instantly arose from his seat and,

The Lesser Covenant of the Bab

2003-11-08 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Thank you for the response Brent, Also, when the Guardian refers to Baha'u'llah's explusion of Mirza Yahya and Siyyid Muhammad-i-Isfahani from the Babi community, he states that the Covenant of the Bab insured the integrity of the Community. (GPB 170) Interesting, as this was during the