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And not Hindus, because most non Buddhists in Sri Lanka are Hindu?
You're confusing general with specific. General is intolerance and persecution
of all groups other than your own. Specific in contrast is being okay with all
groups except one or a few groups you
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Dear friends,
Please do not respond to Stephen's email message since he insists on
propagating the views of Covenant breakers. I've still not had any success
in getting him removed as I can't seem to get a hold of Mark Foster.
However, I would like to say for the
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Susan, logically following that rule to its logical conclusion would ban all
Baha'is websites because each and every Baha'i denomination declares each other
to be covenant breakers. It's impossible to study the Baha'i Faith independent
of any of the denominations. To
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Susan, logically following that rule to its logical conclusion would ban all
Baha'is websites because each and every Baha'i denomination declares each
other to be covenant breakers.
This list is loyal to the Universal House of Justice in Haifa Israel
which you
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It's still is technically alot of a stretch to get the list being loyal to the
UHJ from just the name Baha'i Studies list which doesn't even have a
description other than its name. It's assume people will assume that it's not
Unitarian, Reform, Gaurdianist, or
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While I haven't formed an apostates narrative, I'll leave this as an example.
An Apostate's Narrative
Dr. Moojan Momen recently asserted that each apostate must construct a
narrative, and that it ought to take the form of a captivity narrative.
Apparently, this means
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Lots of interesting Raëlian sites, because I read them in the five Raëlian e
books I downloaded onto my iPad. Interesting side note, I have seen a Theraveda
Buddhist Facebook page attacking Raëlism and another Theraveda Buddhist website
attacking Scientology. While,
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Actually I only believe in Unitarian Universalism, Mahayana Nichiren
Buddhism, Religious Humanism, as my survey results if asked by a survey.
Sent
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I shouldn't have listed Neo-Druidism, Wicca, and Thelema separately. They are
all forms of Contemporary Modern Neo Paganism.
Contemporary Modern Neo Paganism (includes various ethnic, folk, and syncretic
religions)
Unitarian Universalism
Eckankar
LeVeyanism
Raëlism
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That presupposes enough people will have become Baha'i to make that feasible.
If a Baha'i society, one with a Baha'i majority, became a non Baha'i one, one
with a different religious group in the majority, would the Baha'is step down
from power?
Also, shouldn't it
.
Best,
Hasan
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Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
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Don C, read Eight Ways to Run the Country by Brian Patrick Mitchell. From,
this you
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Don't you mean if not in?
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On Apr 20, 2013, at 2:11 28PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
Baha'is say that people are supposed to use independent
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I should explain closer and in more depth. Religions and their scriptures
predict Messiahs, Christs, Paracletes, Holy Spirits
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Don't you mean if not in?
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On Apr 20, 2013, at 2:11
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On Apr 30, 2013, at 17:37, Stephen Kent Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com wrote:
That presupposes enough people will have become Baha'i to make that feasible.
If a Baha'i society, one with a Baha'i majority, became a non Baha'i one, one
with a
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Don C, read Eight Ways to Run the Country by Brian Patrick Mitchell. From,
this you sound like a populist which means nothing other than you side
with people, but is meaningless ideology wise.
You rejection of progressivism
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I shouldn't have listed Neo-Druidism, Wicca, and Thelema separately. They are
all forms of Contemporary Modern Neo Paganism.
Contemporary Modern Neo Paganism (includes
comments. Why are we so blessed?
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Actually I only believe in Unitarian
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Lots of interesting Raëlian sites, because I read them in the five Raëlian e
books I downloaded onto my iPad. Interesting side note, I have seen a
Theraveda Buddhist
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To copy and paste Juan Cole.
“John Ricardo I. Juan Cole (born October 1952) is an American scholar, public
intellectual, and historian of the modern Middle East and South Asia. He is
Richard P. Mitchell Collegiate Professor of History at the University of
Michigan.
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Don C, read Eight Ways to Run the Country by Brian Patrick Mitchell. From,
this you sound like a populist which means
in the soil of faith.
Best,
Hasan
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Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Enviado: Miércoles, 24 de abril, 2013 8:10 P.
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Don C, read Eight Ways to Run the Country by Brian Patrick
Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com
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Don C, read Eight Ways to Run the Country by Brian Patrick Mitchell. From,
this you sound like a populist which means
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Another message where I referenced Raëlism.
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There are a variety of religions in the world. While most either are
explicitly anti LGBTQQIA or
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I have no info on other states such as Northern Cyprus, Palestine, Somaliland,
Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, etc.
I'll also list the countries where there is no illegality for Muslims listed.
Algeria, Comoros, Egypt, Morocco, Niger, Tunisia, Iraq, Turkey. Sahrawi
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Also forgot to mention that Northern Cyprus is probably the same as Turkey.
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I have no info on other states such as Northern Cyprus, Palestine,
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I should explain closer and in more depth. Religions and their scriptures
predict Messiahs, Christs, Paracletes, Holy Spirits, Mahdis, Manifestations
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Stephen,
The name of this list is Bahá'í Studies. It seems that you do not realize
where you are.
The Bahá'í Faith has good presence in the Web, bahá'ís reside
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It's what Wikipedia says here.
Greater covenant
The greater covenant refers to the covenant made between each messenger from
God, which the literature of the Bahá'í Faith name Manifestations of God, and
his followers regarding the coming of the next Manifestation
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Yes, Don C, the onus of independent investigation requires everyone to
investigate the claims of every Messiah, Christ, Paraclete, Holy Spirit, Mahdi,
Manifestation, Avatar, Buddha, etc.
To repeat
The greater covenant refers to the covenant made between each
.
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Don C, read Eight Ways to Run the Country by Brian Patrick Mitchell. From,
this you sound like a populist which means nothing other than you side with
people, but is meaningless ideology wise.
You rejection of progressivism and its
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Stephen,
Are you a bahá'í?
Hasan
De: Stephen Kent Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com
Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Enviado: Lunes, 29 de abril, 2013 1:13 P.M.
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Hasan
of faith.
Best,
Hasan
De: Stephen Kent Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com
Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Enviado: Miércoles, 24 de abril, 2013 8:10 P.M.
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Don C, read Eight Ways to Run the Country
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Don C, read Eight Ways to Run the Country by Brian Patrick Mitchell. From, this
you sound like a populist which means nothing other than you side with people,
but is meaningless ideology wise.
You rejection of progressivism and its ideals, tell me you aren't anti
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Liberal religion is a religious tradition which embraces the theological
diversity of a congregation rather than a single creed, authority, or writing.
Because it may draw resources from many traditions, it cannot normally be
characterized as Christian, Jewish, or
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You seem to be intent on categorizing the Faith. It's not going to work.
Why is the Faith referred to as a liberal or progressive group? Because
when Abdu'l-Baha was here 100 years ago and emphasized what are now commonly
referred to as the Baha'i Principles (all
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I would rather like you to use liberal and progressive interchangeably. All
progressives are liberal, but not all liberals are progressives. Progressive is
a subset of liberal, not equivalent with liberal. Conservatives, libertarians,
and social democrats are
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Don, can I ask you to please stop answering Steve's posts. As
moderator I have made it clear that he is no longer welcome here. Not
after he referred to the Baha'i community as the Heterodox Haifan
Sect. He insists on staying, but we don't need to be encouraging him
by
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This reminds of of religious trends towards traditionalism versus liberalism,
fundamentalism versus humanism.
Within religions, traditionalism is a common reaction to rapid changes in the
surrounding world. Traditionalists maintain older forms of belief and practice
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Opps, needed to correct one of the links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgenderism_and_religion
The other redirected to this one anyways.
Don, what
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Like just assuming since Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism,
Bahai Faith, Zoroastrianism, and Bayaniism are the only world religions
mentioned
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There are a variety of religions in the world. While most either are explicitly
anti LGBTQQIA or neutral towards them, there are affirming religious groups.
Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Judaism have affirming factions.
This is a specific
.
But who knows?
GS
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Opps, needed to correct one of the links.
http
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Actually, not other religions, only Muslims. If you were familiar with what's
happening in Burma, you'd know the Muslims started it. Muslims attacked first,
so Buddhists are rationally retaliating rather than appeasing the barbarian
Muslim horde.
Lots of people not
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There are verses in the Quran that forbid them, too. They are abrogated by
other verses.
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I'm referring to beliefs not practices
No, you are not
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims_in_Burma
In Sri Lanka a couple months ago, Sinhalo-Buddhists called for the expulsion
of all Christians and Muslims.
However, a fundamentalist Buddhist usually believes that non-Buddhists are
condemned to be
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So, as my mother used to say, if they all jump off a cliff, are you going to
jump, too??
Let those so inclined go to those religions.
Don C
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You forgot that this was in the context of having a seperatist war with the
Tamil Tigers to preserve the territory of Sri Lanka against the creation of
Tamil Eelam.
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South Sudan is its own country now.
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Note Libya, Sudan, Afghanistan, Brunei, Bangladesh, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia,
Yemen, etc. are listed as completely
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People can use consultation aka Athenian Democracy without the Baha'i Faith or
any particular religion at all or even religion itself.
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How should
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Susan, let's try this. On your next trip to Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Brunei,
Kuwait, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen, etc. See if you can legally buy and
drink alcohol there. Then, try and search the black market for illegal alcohol
if you need to. While you don't
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Well. There is Mission of Maitreya religion.
http://www.maitreya.org/
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Because Baha'is believe that Baha'u'llah has given us God's most recent
bless us with your comments. Why are we so blessed?
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From: Stephen Kent Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 11:12 am
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Actually I only believe
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I'm referring to beliefs not practices.
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Stephen:
Actually the stories I've read of Baha'i Administration in action
rivals North Korea, Soviet Union,
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Why isn't the Baha'i Faith a liberal religion?
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Opps, needed to correct one of the links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgenderism_and_religion
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Why do they call it midnight if its really early morning?
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According to some blogs I've read...
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The Aeon of Isis represented a maternalistic age where people were children.
The Aeon of Osiris represented a paternalistic age where people were teenagers.
The Aeon of Horus represents individualism where people are adults.
The Aeon of Horus began in 1904.
The Aeon
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I'm a huge fan of Religious Humanism.
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That reminds me that while I'm fiscally responsible, I'm socially tolerant.
I'm currently religious
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Do you have or any else here have expertise in biology, psychology, and
sociology?
Also, what idiot can't spell psychological?
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Hi David,
I wonder
their preferences openly in the Baha'i
community.
But is that suggestion a vain imagining? Very possibly!
GS
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Sent: Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:18 pm
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The Baha'i
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You seem to be study nothing despite committing to the Baha'i Faith.
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You seem to study everything and commit to nothing. This can be a path to
insanity.
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Just because the Kitab I Aqdas hasn't been put in practice, doesn't make it any
less of an authoritarian dogmatic theocratic manifesto! Just look at all the
things the the Aqdas requires to be illegal in a Baha'i state.
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On what basis do they believe there haven't been more recent revelations?
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Because Baha'is believe that Baha'u'llah has given us God's most recent
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Don, which one of the eight ways are you? I'm Individualist, anti both ie archy
and kratos. You are pro archy, anti kratos or Paleoconservative.
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To
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Reparative therapy is seen as pseudoscience now.
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I wonder if science have discovered some kind of predisposition (genetic
mutation)? I believe the
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Buddhist states aren't oppressive with religious rules. Theraveda Buddhism and
Vajrayana Buddhism is the state religion in various countries in South Asia,
Southeast Asia, East Asia, and some parts of Russia.
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On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:28, Susan Maneck
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You forgot to add a link to the list of all the species of animals in which
homosexual behavior has been observed.
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If humans are supposed to be
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You could add Biblical Israel as a Jewish example.
Despite the fact that Thailand is an extremely devout Thereveda Buddhist
country, it is known internationally for the sex industry worldwide. The whole
of Southeast Asia is in the same boat in this regard, but
, Apr 18, 2013 12:19 pm
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Like just assuming since Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism,
Bahai Faith, Zoroastrianism, and Bayaniism are the only world religions
mentioned in the Baha'i Writings, they're the only world
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Opps, needed to correct one of the links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgenderism_and_religion
The other redirected to this one anyways.
Don, what if the influence of all secular progressivism went away, what
would society
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Sen, so actually none of the Baha'i laws may ever be enforced?
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not enforcing can be the best thing:
In the Taurat there are ten commandments
a vain imagining? Very possibly!
GS
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Sent: Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:18 pm
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Pardon me. The Deuteronomy reference emphatically should
am
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Opps, needed to correct one of the links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgenderism_and_religion
The other redirected to this one anyways.
Don, what if the influence of all secular progressivism went away, what would
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Authoritarianism is more of a mindset than actual practices. Those practices
are symptoms of authoritarianism rather than authoritarianism itself. If a
shadow government or government in exile, it authoritarian if it has such a
mindset, even if it can't do any of the
bless us with your comments. Why are we so blessed?
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Actually I only believe
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Consultation needs experts, not necessarily from Wikipedia.
Also, when I refer to consultation, I mean all consultation, not just the
Baha'i version.
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I'm one such still enrolled ex Baha'i. I think the Baha'i Faith will ultimately
fail to inability to retain believers. The math adds up to it eventually
becoming extinct.
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The
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That reminds me political compass rated all candidates including third party
ones on their Political Compass chart. Mitt Romney and Barack Obama had
identical spot on the grid. Virgil Goode was more Authoritarian and Right than
both. Gary Johnson and Rocky Anderson
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Does the method of consultation intrinsically involve scripture? Or just Baha'i
consultation?
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Things
like adoption and marriage are private contracts
?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder
It's a treatable disorder.
GS
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People can use consultation aka Athenian Democracy without the Baha'i Faith
or any particular religion at all or even religion itself.
And people can consult without any religion either. What's your point?
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You are
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Susan, let's try this. On your next trip to Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Brunei,
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and drink alcohol there. Then, try and search the black market for illegal
alcohol if you need to. While you don't
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I'm referring to beliefs not practices.
Really? And what beliefs do we share with the Fascists?
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Abby Martin's show is Breaking The Set for those who wanted to know.
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I really should study the implications of this. New religious movements,
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How will the punishments in the Aqdas get carried out if you that's true? If no
one is in charge how will people get executed, exiled, imprisioned, fined, etc?
The Aqdas looks like it presupposes a kind of authoritarianism you reject.
Baha'i laws will be enforced
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I don't commit to nothing, yet I study everything. Since I'm not omniscient I
have to study everything. Isn't that what everyone is required to do?
Everyone is required to investigate the claims of all claimants. Baha'u'llah
himself referred to this as the greater
...And yet you so often bless us with your comments. Why are we so blessed?
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Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 11:12 am
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Susan, the point is that Islamists all over the world want to turn the world
into one big Islamist Islamic Superstate of a Caliphate. Have you studied
Islamism?
Of course, I've studied it. But it is a radical political movement
inside of Islam. It is not Islam
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if you think liberal means No drugs, no booze, no hanky-panky then I guess
we're quite liberal.
Don C
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Why isn't the Baha'i Faith a liberal religion?
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Understood properly, all man's problems are
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i consider myself an independent centrist. I don't fit neatly into any
category. I am generally moderate, but have no compunction about adapting
workable ideas from a variety of perspectives. What is most important, as
Baha'u'llah has indicated, are the
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There are militant fundamentalist Buddhists that have attacked members of
other religions.
Don C
On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:17 46PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
Buddhist states aren't oppressive with religious rules.
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Understood properly, all man's problems
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I'm referring to beliefs not practices
No, you are not referring to beliefs instead of practices. Your own words
contradict you:
Actually the stories I've read of Baha'i Administration **in action**
**rivals** North Korea, Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and other
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A Baha'i involved in consultation will use Scripture as an ethical standard.
BTW, in the mid 80's, I took a college credit mid management course that
included a section on small group decision making. It was a very good
non-Baha'i description of consultation as
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They will be a minor part of their responsibilities. This is going to prob be
1500 years from now. Think the difference in civilization btwn Augustine and
now.
Don C
On Apr 20, 2013, at 2:39 08PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
How will the punishments in the Aqdas
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The Baha'i Studies ListservThere are militant fundamentalist Buddhists that
have attacked members of other religions.
Don C
On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:17 46PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
Buddhist states aren't oppressive with religious rules
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On Apr 20, 2013, at 2:11 28PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
Baha'is say that people are supposed to use independent investigation of
truth to verify or falsify the claims of each and every religious claimant,
I have never seen a statement like that in Baha'i
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Gary,
Stephen has not really even had any interaction with a real Baha'i
community in person. He declared online but rather than become
involved
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Oh Susan, please don't destroy my last illusion!!!
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I'm a Germanic, neo-Duns-Scotian glutton.
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I really should study the implications of this. New religious movements,
religions founded in the eighteenth century or later, and their relationship to
post conventional morality.
Baha'i Faith, Cao Dai, Cheondogyo, Tenrikyo, Wicca, Sekai Kyuseikyo, Seicho-
No-Ie,
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