[BangPypers] Raising issue WRT Bangpypers mailing list
Hello Brian Jesse, I am an incognito member of the BangPypers mailing list. Reason for being incognito is simple, the people who run the list are very sensitive to criticism and react in a harsh and non-professional manner. I was looking to see, who I could raise this issue to, via the Python.org website, I saw Brian was the communications officer and Jesse is the Vice-Chairman of the PSF. This time, I write to you with links to the content of the emails, which can be found at https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2014-May/010156.html My replies are available here - http://pastebin.com/7kWWcMvF Both my emails were rejected with the response: Your message was deemed inappropriate by the moderator. Screenshot of replied from the moderator. http://www.anonimg.com/uploaded-510571c65c8efdb3970761d95f85f5a8.png.html At the risk of sounding like a 5 year old complaining about a bully hitting him in school, may I request you to kindly warn the moderators of the mailing list. I guess as member of the community, if I feel something is not right, I have the right to voice my opinion. A few months back Anand Pillai, a PSF member. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2013-September/thread.html It would really help, if there is some intervention. I would have ideally written to the list owners, but I have real bad experience in dealing with them earlier. Regards Pratham ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India
Please forgive me for replying to this thread. I would have written to her off-list, but she has a pretty reputation of slamming who sends her an email! On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Annapoornima Koppad a.kop...@gmail.comwrote: Morever, I was busy last night, sending this email thread to all the women groups all over the word. The Ada initiative, The Anita Borg institute, The systers group, the Pyladies international group, the ubuntu women, the openstack group, Linuxchix, the pyladies organizers group, and the other groups that I am part of are reading this email thread currently. with reference to the earlier incident, I believed this lady, had some good motive and initiative. But, it seems, she is pretty much misguided. I pity all the people on the other lists, who have been spammed by this lady! Lady, take a deep breath, realise that you are making a 'fool' out of yourself on not one, but many public mailing lists. Why are you so bitter? Thank you. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Ramdas S ram...@gmail.com wrote: Anand is someone who has contributed immensely as a programmer, and as an evangelist to Python community. His humour may be distasteful, misogynist or whatever, but that are his personal views, and definitely not as IPSS President or PSF member. This is more or less similar to justifying why Obama got the Noble peace prize. He did some good work earlier, but now he is free to wage war on other nations, BUT don't forget the good work he has done! If he has been such a good evangelist of the Python community, he should have been far more careful before trying to crack 'sarcastic' jokes on a community trying to do some good work. It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently. ~ Warren Buffett I am done with my thoughts on the issue and leave it to the community to decide what is wrong, what is right and what action should be taken. Cheers Pratham ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py
On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 11:50:03PM +0530, Anand B Pillai wrote: Dear all, +1. Btw, I founded and manage this list, but I see my actions deserve some explanation. As Sriram, said I do have a (somewhat extreme) sense of sarcastic and dry humour. I am also a PSF member from 2010 and also President of PSSI. The first thing, I was taught in Linux, when using the 'su' command, with power comes great responsibility. Looks he forgot that important lesson. Forgive the poor sod. He does not realise, how is justification has harmed him his 'repustation' more than that 'intelligent' piece of code. To err is human, to forgive is divine, they say. BTW, Anand is it PSSI or IPSS? (typo, I think) Cheers Pratham ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py
Audrey, We would like to hear your thoughts on the antics pulled by Anand Pillai (member of PSF). ref: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2013-September/thread.html Mails with the subject : https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py Most of us, don't like the way he is hiding behind his style of sarcastic humor, but for fear of being called an outcast from the community, we don't have the guts to come out in the open. Being a member / moderator / owner of various e-groups (tech non-tech) in India, I know very well, how quickly one can become an outcast for speaking out. Especially, against somebody popular like Anand. I would personally, recommend, that a proper warning be served to Anand for his misconduct. I sincerely hope that Anand is given his due for his uncalled and unwarranted 'sarcastic humor'. I am taking the trouble to escalate this issue, since Anand is a member of PSF and President of Indian Python Software Society. People with attitude like his should not be allowed to hold such posts. Regards Pratham PS: If somebody has cloned the code repository by Anand, please share the code with pyladies. If you don't want to get entangled in this mess, email the code to me, I will guarantee your anonymity. Anand, in the meanwhile please read : http://www.pyladies.com/CodeOfConduct/ On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Daniel Greenfeld pyda...@gmail.com wrote: As a PSF member I'm going to delurk right now. That's because as an admirer/supporter of the India Python community, I'm rather shocked and saddened by this thread. Angry. Furious. Demanding of real apologies. Svashka is standing up for what's right. I'm behind what she says 100%. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
