[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: SLW typesets

2020-01-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Now for sale at "Le Luth Doré". :-( Jean-Marie Le 15/01/2020 à 19:00, Roman Turovsky a écrit : Dear collective wisdom, What ever happened to the J.D.Forget's Weiss typesets? RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 5 of the 6 Dresden Weiss volumes are online now

2018-11-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thank you for the heads up, Markus ! All the best, Jean-Marie -- >Dear friends, >today I found out, that 5 of the 6 Dresden volumes are online now. > >http://digital.slub-dresden.de/werkansicht/dlf/276092 >http://digital.slub-dresden.de/werkansicht/dlf/92747 >http://digital.slub-dr

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: London Weiss manuscript is online

2018-06-20 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
same here "error retrieving pdf"... :-( Jean-Marie -- > I get "error retrieving pdf" :( > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Markus Lutz <[1]mar...@gmlutz.de> > wrote: > > Dear Matthew, did that work for you? > Tim and also me tested it, and it didn't work. > But

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
beautiful piece anyway ! All the best, Jean-Marie -- >Dear Jean-Marie, >Let me be the first, hoping that your PC opens Fronimo files. >Mathias > > > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: Jean-Marie Poirier [mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr] >Gesendet

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
"SORRY FOR THE TYPO" :-D -- >ooops ! Sorry fothe typo : "except the odd mistake"... >Classical flat tuning here A D g b flat d f, supposing a lute in A... > >Jean-Marie > > >-- > >>Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see >>anything st

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
ooops ! Sorry fothe typo : "except the odd mistake"... Classical flat tuning here A D g b flat d f, supposing a lute in A... Jean-Marie -- >Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see anything >strange about the 3rd course in this piece which I love and p

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see anything strange about the 3rd course in this piece which I love and play regularly. It sure could be a transcription from the old tuning. When I have the time, I will try to transcribe it back to old tuning ;-) ! Just to see.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
sire to deprive Gaultier from his wonderful pieces in d minor, which I love and play, but I simply want to question the traditional presentation of Gaultier as a rather monolithic monument of the baroque tuning, which for me he is not ! I think his contribution was much more complex and deep than it

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
pen questions as open questions, if there are no very string reasons to attribute a piece to a certain Gaultier. 2. Jean-Marie Poirier suggested in his „answer" to G.C.'s question „So did Denis could pass on works of Ennemond as being his own and not only transcribi

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
irst half of the century) is far from having delivered all its secrets ! Best wishes to all, Jean-Marie Poirier -- > Hi, > > Â > > I don't think one can accuse Denis of having "hijacked" or "passed on > works by Ennemond as his own

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
to the XVIIIth century. [1988] CD Booklet Astree E 8703 On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier <[1][3]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: :-D !!! Le 2 dà �c. 2017 à 20:40, G. C. <[2][4]kalei...@gmail.com> a à �crit : So did Denis pass

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
:-D !!! > Le 2 déc. 2017 à 20:40, G. C. a écrit : > > So did Denis pass on works of Ennemond as being his own, and not only > transcribing them from vieil tone and getting huge credit from D. A. > Smith 40 years ago for that? > > -- > > > To get on or off this list see list informatio

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
He sure does even though he sort of hijacked a good part of his older cousin’s output ;-) ! Jean-Marie > Le 2 déc. 2017 à 20:19, G. C. a écrit : > > When looking again at D.A. Smith's Weiss thesis of 1977, I look at the > following passage: "Weiss's work unquestionably can stand beside the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Ballard 1623

2017-03-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
mysterious title-page. Would anyone on this list know where precisely this precious document is preserved ? Thank you for your feedback anyway ! Best wishes to all, Jean-Marie Poirier To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: F-Pcnrs Ms. sans cote

2017-03-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Abhandlung/Schreiber/Schreiber.html > >Andreas > >Am 09.03.2017 um 10:37 schrieb Jean-Marie Poirier : > >> Interesting Ernst ! >> Two (very small) remarks nonetheless : there is no point calling Merville >> "Nicolo" (or is it a typo ?) as he w

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: F-Pcnrs Ms. sans cote

2017-03-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Interesting Ernst ! Two (very small) remarks nonetheless : there is no point calling Merville "Nicolo" (or is it a typo ?) as he was a Parisian born and such a typical French lutenist, especially as you call him properly "Nicolas" a little further down in your text. The second point is about th

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: "Courante" Performance broadcast live on Facebook Live

2016-04-21 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Good luck, Ed ! Enjoy yourselves with this fine repertoire ;-) ! Best wishes, Jean-Marie -- > This Saturday, April 23, Edward Martin and Thomas Walker will be > performing the program from their duet recording of baroque lute duets > "Courante" at the Sacred Heart Music Cent

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le bout de lan de Mr. Gautier

2015-07-30 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Exactly Stewart. It is the end of a year of mourning actually. "Bout de l'an" was a religious service for the anniversary of someone's demise. In the dictionary by Nicot, Thresor de la langue française (1606), we find this definition : "Faire le bout de l'an, ou l'anniversaire, Feralia vel parent

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le bout de lan de Mr. Gautier

2015-07-30 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
A "bout de l'an" was a traditional religious service in memory of a deceased person, taking place one year after his death. So this Allemande was probably a posthumous tribute to Gaultier one year after his burial. All the best, Jean-Marie -- >Dear All, > >I’m wondering about the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: request...

2015-07-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I got it almost imediately, so forget this request ! Thank you Susanne ;-) and all, All the Best, Jean-Marie -- >Dear collective wisdom, >Would there be a charitable soul among you having an access to JSTOR and who >would accept to download and send me [ private email : jmpoiri.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] request...

2015-07-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear collective wisdom, Would there be a charitable soul among you having an access to JSTOR and who would accept to download and send me [ private email : jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr ] the following article : Matthew Locke and the Consort Suite Christopher D. S. Field Music & Letters Vol. 51, No. 1 (

[BAROQUE-LUTE] request...

2014-04-23 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
, xv (1982), 52–83 Thank you very much to all in advance for your help. All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Dresden Manuscript, one volume is online

2014-02-03 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thanks for the tip Markus ! >Hello, >it seems as if now the second volume of the Dresden Weiss manuscript is >online on the SLUB homepage - the sonatas in C major and a minor: >http://digital.slub-dresden.de/werkansicht/dlf/92747 > >Best regards >Markus >-- > >Markus Lutz >Schulstraße 11 > >8

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New UR Research Publications [Lute MS & Vallet psalms]

2013-08-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
ounder of Western Union! > > > > **Formerly in the library of Brahms' friend and biographer Max Kalbeck > (Vienna). It was never in the Prussian State Library (*pace* > Boetticher). > > > > Arthur > > > > - Original Message - > From: &qu

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New UR Research Publications [Lute MS & Vallet psalms]

2013-08-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
ion! > > > > **Formerly in the library of Brahms' friend and biographer Max Kalbeck > (Vienna). It was never in the Prussian State Library (*pace* > Boetticher). > > > > Arthur > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jean-Ma

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Preludes by Vieux Gaultier ???

2012-11-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
>On 15/11/12 20:04, Arto Wikla wrote: >> >> Dear Jean-Marie, >> >> in GB-Ob ms. G.617 there seems to be one "Prelude de Gautier de P", p. >> 120-121, in A minor. Peter S's pages say it is V. Gaultier. Isn't the >> "P" for &quo

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Preludes by Vieux Gaultier ???

2012-11-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
(Ennemond). My CNRS old >edition doesn't have any... If you know of the existence of such pieces, could >you cite the sources where they may be found, please? > >Thank you in advance for your unremitting generous help, > >All the best, > >Jean-Marie Poir

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Preludes by Vieux Gaultier ???

2012-11-14 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
tting generous help, All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Tombeau de gogo

2012-05-05 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I think I remember reading somewhere that Gogo was the name of a parrot or some sort of exotic bird, some aristoctrat's pet, and this Tombeau was written in honour of this pet... I found the reference, in Monique Rollin's introduction to Mouton Complete Works for the CNRS Editions : "This Tomb

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Tombeau de gogo

2012-05-05 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
"Gogo", possibly the nickname of Elisabeth Montgobert, lady-in-waiting to Mme. de Sevigné... after C. Liddell's notes to her recital for the Lute Society of America. Best, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 05-05-2012, 13:27:57 == > > Does anyone ha

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
A very good read indeed ! Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 07-01-2012, 11:03:41 == > > Read Lindley's book on lute temperaments if you don't believe me. > > MH > --- On Fri, 6/1/12, howard posner wrote: > > From: howard posner > Subject:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
rk Lindley , Lutes, Viols and Temperaments, Cambridge University Press, 1984) I like the isea of playing a "charlatan of music" :-). Don't you ? Best, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 06-01-2012, 22:39:12 == >2012/1/6 Jean-Marie Poiri

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
[Then he points out that those using the tastini do not know much about theory, they just want to hear 'marvels'.]" Another plea for equality in other words... Jean-Marie Poirier == En réponse au message du 06-01-2012, 21:48:18 == > >On Jan 6, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Jean-Mar

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Isn't that evocative of the "Well-tempered keyboard"... JM >There is another important passage in the Jean Denis's text, well woth >quoting. I will try a translation : > >After hearing a harpsichord tuned in equal temperament Denis asks why they use >this temperament which he judges bad : > >"B

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
quest of the, if not impossible, yet very hard to achieve solution for unequal temperament which will, anyway, remain an " anti-user friendly" way of coping with music in general. I trust my ears more than my Korg tuner :-) My humble opinion ;-) ! Best wishes, Jean-Marie

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
s sort of parctice in all the musical literature, od iconography by the way, but perhaps I missed something... Anyway, it is obvious that when we say equal temperament we do not refer to a genuine equal temperament but to some sort of equal temperament; To play satiscfactorily I think we hav

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392

2011-12-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
in particular, if it was ever done with some of > the >large 11- or 13- course baroque lutes of the type that we mostly > use to >play solos. >Bill >From: Jean-Marie Poirier >To: William Samson >Sent: Wednesday, 30 N

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bouvier

2011-08-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Wouldn't "Hautman" be a misspelling for "Hotman" the well-known viol and lute player from mid 17th century represented in the Saizenay ms and in the Goess ms as well ? Best, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 22-08-2011, 09:17:36 == > There are pieces

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Top luthiers of 11-courser?

2011-05-25 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
My 11 course Warwick Frei by David Van Edwards is a Rolls Royce indeed ! But David seems to be slowing down his production and his waiting list is now quite long (4 or 5 years). Of course if you have a lot of money in the bank there is Paul Thomson or Michael Lowe... Good luck to you Arto ! Be

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms. Lei. II 6 14 ?

2011-03-04 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I agree 200 percent Bernd ;-) Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 04-03-2011, 11:58:11 == >I find that we all should get the RISM for free from the UN Lute High >Commissioner. > >B To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmo

[BAROQUE-LUTE] French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700

2010-12-20 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
ntastic subject. Best wishes and season's greetings to all ! Jean-Marie Poirier To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700

2010-12-19 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I am sorry to disagree, but this little book was "recommended" by Per Kjetil Farstad, who is a reputed musicologist, as something written by "the Swedish/Norwegian lute researcher Robin Rolfhamre". We had a right to expect more, a lot more... End of discussion.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700

2010-12-18 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
s not. Maybe "publishers should be rewarded for publishing these books", but they should also be better advised before making such choices. Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 18-12-2010, 22:03:43 == >On 18 December 2010 20:42, Jean-Marie Poirier

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700

2010-12-18 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
With a little delay, time to get the book, I must confess I am very disappointed. This little book is much too expensive for what it is... I expected something more professional, in the line of works by Ledbetter or Rave (not even quoted in the bibliography...), but it is in fact only a short m

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A couple of questions...

2010-11-20 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Hi all, A few years ago I was invited to play in the St John Passion. I used an archlute in G, no problem. Exactly as David says : a few arias (including the "musts", plus chorals, choirs and instrumental ritornellos. A lot of fun in fact ! Best, Jean-Marie =

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: test

2010-05-08 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
bp, bp back, Bernd ! Good job you did with the A major Prelude and thank you for uploading the jpgs so quickly ! A nice piece indeed. Best wishes from across the border, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 08-05-2010, 17:45:34 == > >beep > >