Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-07 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hallo Hendrik, Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag 07 Januar 2008 schrieb Michael Buesch: What's the problem with all of this? Other drivers change firmware to incompatible versions on a regular basis. Look at ipw2200. There was a time when they changed the firmware basically

b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Buesch
The b43 driver will need an incompatible firmware upgrade, soon. I'm probably going to do this in 2.6.25 or 2.6.26. The update will require people to download and extract updated officially supported firmware. The firmware will be linked to from the usual place at linuxwireless.org. The driver

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 06 Januar 2008 schrieb Michael Buesch: The b43 driver will need an incompatible firmware upgrade, soon. I'm probably going to do this in 2.6.25 or 2.6.26. The update will require people to download and extract updated officially supported firmware. The firmware will be linked to

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 06 January 2008 21:05:23 Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Sonntag 06 Januar 2008 schrieb Michael Buesch: The b43 driver will need an incompatible firmware upgrade, soon. I'm probably going to do this in 2.6.25 or 2.6.26. The update will require people to download and extract updated

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread John W. Linville
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 06:02:38PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: This is needed in order to add support for new devices (N-PHY). Broadcom changed the ABI of the firmware, so we are forced to also change the ABI of the driver. Do we have reasonable confidence that the newer firmware will run on

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Pavel Roskin
Quoting Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: see fwpostfix module parameter Can we please avoid this annoyance this time? It was bad at the bcm43xx/bcm43xx_mac80211 time, but it's going to be a bigger annoyance this time, because the driver with the same name b43 will need a different

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread John W. Linville
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 09:58:22PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 06 January 2008 21:05:23 Hendrik Sattler wrote: Do these firmware files go to a different directory then? I would like to run my current kernel (b43 from git or 2.6.24) and the new one without having to

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 06 January 2008 22:35:51 Pavel Roskin wrote: Quoting Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: see fwpostfix module parameter Can we please avoid this annoyance this time? Go and complain at Broadcom please. -- Greetings Michael. ___

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 06 January 2008 21:34:35 John W. Linville wrote: On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 06:02:38PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: This is needed in order to add support for new devices (N-PHY). Broadcom changed the ABI of the firmware, so we are forced to also change the ABI of the driver. Do

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread John W. Linville
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:38:43PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 06 January 2008 22:35:51 Pavel Roskin wrote: Quoting Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: see fwpostfix module parameter Can we please avoid this annoyance this time? Go and complain at Broadcom please.

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 06 Januar 2008 schrieb Michael Buesch: On Sunday 06 January 2008 21:34:35 John W. Linville wrote: On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 06:02:38PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: This is needed in order to add support for new devices (N-PHY). Broadcom changed the ABI of the firmware, so we are

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Pavel Roskin
Quoting Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 06 January 2008 22:35:51 Pavel Roskin wrote: Quoting Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: see fwpostfix module parameter Can we please avoid this annoyance this time? Go and complain at Broadcom please. Mind you, there is nothing

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 06 January 2008 23:01:00 John W. Linville wrote: On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:38:43PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 06 January 2008 22:35:51 Pavel Roskin wrote: Quoting Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: see fwpostfix module parameter Can we please avoid this

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Monday, 7 of January 2008, Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 06 January 2008 23:01:00 John W. Linville wrote: On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:38:43PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 06 January 2008 22:35:51 Pavel Roskin wrote: Quoting Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: see

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Buesch
On Monday 07 January 2008 00:28:15 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Monday, 7 of January 2008, Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 06 January 2008 23:01:00 John W. Linville wrote: On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:38:43PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 06 January 2008 22:35:51 Pavel Roskin

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Pavel Roskin
Quoting Rafael J. Wysocki [EMAIL PROTECTED]: People don't want N-PHY support? Well, as it sometimes is said the better is an enemy of the good. If they feel comfortable without the N-PHY, why would they want it? Still, if you can add the support for it as a feature that doesn't affect the

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Buesch
On Monday 07 January 2008 00:51:55 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Monday, 7 of January 2008, Michael Buesch wrote: On Monday 07 January 2008 00:28:15 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Monday, 7 of January 2008, Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 06 January 2008 23:01:00 John W. Linville wrote:

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread John W. Linville
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 12:02:11AM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: The _just_ wanted to tell people about a serious change _before_ it happens. I'm not sure why this results in all kinds of complaints. Don't be so inhuman... :-) (For those just joining us, that is an inside joke...) Please

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Rafał Miłecki
2008/1/7, Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: People don't want N-PHY support? Well, if your definition of people is similar to my one, they definitely want it! :-) I think we are just a little afraid of _possible_ problem with a few kernels installed at one time. Sometimes I need to run basic

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Stefano Brivio
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:03:12 -0500 Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Rafael J. Wysocki [EMAIL PROTECTED]: People don't want N-PHY support? Well, as it sometimes is said the better is an enemy of the good. If they feel comfortable without the N-PHY, why would they want it?

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Buesch
On Monday 07 January 2008 01:12:25 Rafał Miłecki wrote: 2008/1/7, Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: People don't want N-PHY support? Well, if your definition of people is similar to my one, they definitely want it! :-) I think we are just a little afraid of _possible_ problem with a few

Re: b43 will need a firmware upgrade soon

2008-01-06 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 07 Januar 2008 schrieb Michael Buesch: Still, if you can add the support for it as a feature that doesn't affect the people's working configurations, no one will complain. Impossible, sorry. We are going to add support for new firmware, which will be needed for N-PHY, or we