the site you suggested LOOKS like it should go somewhere, but
it has nothing on the page itself ***
I know dowsing works but I don't know why *
The 'Why' and the 'How', I thought, as I logged on for the first time
today. The site I had recommended must have been
how much longer are we going to take thisthats the statement
of the new year.
Perys situation is the (but one of many) story of 2003 and how do we
stand with him/them?
Bob -
I'm at a loss. The response must be both powerful and persistent.
I really believe that if the man or woman on the
If you want to chat this up on BD Now!, let me know. I think Michael
Roboz has also put your name forward.
Dear Allan,
You can put this up on your list if you like. In any event, please thank
Michael.
Methinks that until there is a real splinter group out there that
numbers not in the
There's no one there to teach them. No leader. No wise man. No wise
woman. No body. Vacuous. A vacuum at the top, middle and bottom.
Good people leave organizations like these - one way or the other. More
often than not, if they try to enlighten them, they are kicked out.
Which is good for
Another thing about WF is they have no policies that I know of for selling
local produce even in areas where there are local farms. When they had their
second store only in Houston (and the first in Austin) there used to be
highly trained staff who were very helpful (there is still some evidence
Gee, Allan, no I did not, but you should feel free.
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Jane - Did you forward a copy to
Title: FW: CSA's
Hi Allan et al,
I forwarded your post about csas referencing Robyns website to JP because he had just given me a little synopsis of how csas actually started. He should know, since he was one of the first few csas to start in the northeast. He was trained as a biodynamic
Isn't that interesting, actually? I wonder why we can forgive greed and not
sin?
JS
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It's
Hi all,
Couldn't help but comment on this topic. With my conference only a few
weeks to go, I've been busy setting up classes (8 from Feb.to May), 5 farm trips
this year, mentoring programs for newbies,and so on. Living at 6200+ feet with
extremely alkaline soils(9+) and strong west winds
As usual, Pat, you are both right on! and an inspiration. I wish you
could afford the time to mentor us all on community organization.
-Allan
Hi all,
Couldn't help but comment on this topic. With my conference only a few
weeks to go, I've been busy setting up classes (8 from Feb.to May),
Hey Allan,
It's an interesting discussion about the history of CSA but we need
to constantly remember that CSA is an evolving concept. (in fact, if
I had my druthers I would completely do away with the term CSA
because it is so unintuitive and because of so much of the baggage it
carries
I do like the one aspect of the 'old time' CSA theory in that the
subscribers share in the success and failure of the program. This
means, no outside sales. What you grow goes to your subscribers.
This works to make the subscribers feel more part of the farm, and
it does work to educate the
What I'm getting at is that felt a lot of remorse brought on by the
fact that we have no similar organization in the US. Many of the
questions that are brought up by new people on the list would be
dealt with so much better through a farm visit rather than a reading
list or a wisdom thrown
Hi! Allan,
Good Post.
My introduction to BD was AP with that well known TV special, all those years
ago. It still took years until I saw other people actually doing it and
eating their produce to make me want to make the move. It was then with their
help and encouragement that I set out to learn
Dear Allan, et. al.,
This is a discussion I don't join too often.
It should be obvious that we won't shake awake more than a slivver of our
population to the demon agendas. Sure we can iterate the rule that if a
thing CAN happen it WILL. And it can be that Monsanto has had a truly
oppressive
from Jean paul courtens
Hi Jane and Allan:
I think it is also important for the subscribers at BD Now to know
that Jan vanderTuin (whom I had forgotten to mention), had brought
the idea with him from Dornach, Switzerland. There Jan had either
worked, or just met with a farmer that had a
From: Jean Paul Courtens
I missed this one and I should have read this one-first before I
responded. It think it is important to understand that farming is
all three; Free spiritual life is represented by the wisdom of the
farmer.
The right sphere in the issues of who owns what right to what.
When I ran a Google search on CSA in Texas, I got one only. (And
I know the person running it, and I wouldn't trust her as far as I
could heave her.) But, instead they're calling it subscription farms.
I'd think even contract farming would have a good ring, nicer than
'subscribers'.
I don't mean to discourage anyone. Let's keep building awareness, and
rejection of the vogue agendas such as Monsanto's. But quite frankly I see
little salvation in this alone. What will help us most is if things get a
LOT worse. SNIP Like I said, things may have to get a LOT worse
before they
Martha - The USDA operates a CSA database that can be accessed at
their page, at the BDA's page and at the Robyn Van En pages, to name
just a few of the portals. that's the place to look for CSAs. I don't
know if it would make me happier if they added a 'subscription
farming' section. -Allan
I think we are wishing for an outdated paradigm when we expect to have some
top down organizational figure heads baby us through our movement. This is
the era of the conciousness soul, the age of individuality. What ever is
lacking in the movement is no one fault but our own. Christy
Tell me
Dear Allan,
We have certainly made ourselves available regionally, and offer advice and
suggestions for numerous growers each year, plus orgainzing educational
events. Jeff Poppen is always also taking in visitors, and holding
educational events, writing and doing the TV shows. Allan, you do a
My two bobs worth: Initially I had to agree with Greg and Allan about the
apparent lack of leadership in the USA. Then I started thinking about the
time I was part of the BDFGAA council (10 Yrs ago) and the lack of member
support we experienced at that time. Consequently I would like to put
Hello,
I'm new to the list and am new to the teachings of bd as well, so I hope
you'll help me understand something here. Isn't anthroposophy etc include
the belief in Archangel Michael? His day is revered in the Waldorf schools
and I know people there believe in him.
But Archangel Michael
Chronic pompous orificious flatulence emission is hardly a wise karmic
method in pointing out perceived deficits in others. It may be a sign that
one has bitten off more than one can digest spiritually. And, yes it can
still elicit comment with its imposing waft amongst a target audience.Still,
it
Might I respectfully suggest, that the Biodynamic message of the last 79
years could be typified by Mr Palmer's message?
Greg Willis, like him or hate him, communicates clearly, concepts and ideas.
The biodynamic movement does not. What started out as a simple concept,
bereft of politics, has
What I'm getting at is that felt a lot of remorse brought on by the
fact that we have no similar organization in the US. Many of the
questions that are brought up by new people on the list would be
dealt with so much better through a farm visit rather than a reading
list or a wisdom thrown
Isn't that interesting, actually? I wonder why we can forgive greed and not
sin?
JS
It's amazing how much immorality we can
tolerate if we believe it is simply motivated by greed -AB
Michael Moore points out the amount of violence the authorities will
bring down on an individual who
What is it you have, and why should I listen?
That, my friends, is the nub of what you need to answer..
Clarify your message, and foment a revolution of thought in your target
audience. Which is the world.
Messages designed to only stroke the committed never go far.
Please, stop nattering
Hi Allan,
Just in from chores for the day, and think you are quite right about doing
things ourselves as far as mentoring/cooperative efforts go. Although what I'm
doing on the local level is very intensive(pre-school to senior citizens) it
does take cooperation, effort and persistence.
Can anyone help Pat find BD farmers in the Santa Fe area? Beneficial
Farms comes to mind (arent they going to be at your conference?)
There's another initiative there, the one that's working with a local
grain cooperative. I can't remember the name of it. Tom Schley is out
there.
Can
Kara and Hugh and Allan,
There are a lot of people around the globe who have a different vision than the
green revolution, and see it for what it is. The meeting at Porto Allegre
was one. The strong movement in India too. That is why I brought up the great
work that is going on in teaching
Title: CSA
Alan,
I'm
sure you've seen this definition of csa's from the usda page.
what do you think?
by
Suzanne DeMuth
September 1993
Since our existence is primarily dependent on farming, we
cannot entrust this essential activity solely to the farming
population-- just 2% of Americans. As
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