Re: Fwd: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI

2002-02-20 Thread Allan Balliett

Greg - Hugh - Lorraine -

Please fill me in on this. When did Loraine become 'the best at 
this'? What is her background, what is this testing service that she 
is offering?

AND, why hasn't she tested Lovel's or Courtney's preps?

Thanks

-Allan


When will all the other prep makers in the US and Canada send 
theirs to Lorraine to be tested.  She's the best at this.  I would 
think they would be proud to get them tested.  I would think that 
they would be anxious to know
whether or not their remedies worked as well as they should.




Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-20 Thread Gil Robertson

Thanks Lloyd,
That makes much more sense.

I have a lot of problems with a Laboratory attached to Sales Organisation and I
would also have a lot of difficulty with the use of Radionics in this area. When
I am doing soil reclamation work, that requires a Lab Test, I use one of two
Labs, then pay a consultant I greatly respect, to interpret it and  make
recommendations. I have the client pay both directly. When it comes to doing the
actual work resulting from it, I will supervise the client's employees or
contractors, for a fee, but that is my limit of involvement.

At the risk of sounding puritanical (And I have been intentionally pushing a few
comfort zones on this list), Radiesthesia/ Radionics is only reliable when done
with complete detachment. I do not see how Radionics can be reliably used, if
there is a potential for personal gain or loss involved. Others have talked of
working from a position of Love. That is one way of stating it. For Radionics/
Radiesthesia to be of value, it must include utter independence of the
practitioner. Personally I think in terms of having no ownership in the out
come. I strive to put my self in a space, what ever the out come, it is of no
concern to me. I do not mean that this is a position of not caring, but that I
recognise that every situation in which a person finds them selves, they have
made some contributing action to that situation. I have client files on my desk
with people wanting Golden Bullets for situations they have created, ranging
from a the physical, to relationship issues. While I will do what I can and work
with empathy, I will avoid emotional involvement.

Gil
Lloyd Charles wrote:

 Hi Gil --- Yeah I did it again eh -- garbled my message!
I was referring to the use of radionic analysis to build
 physical fertiliser programs which is a bit outside of BD but common
 practice in eco farming circles. When we couple this with the situation of
 commission sales or permanent employment  (the product seller)representing a
 particular product (supersoup brand x or whatever) then there is a real
 problem. This is already happening and is getting radionics a bad name. Some
 of these guys will be at that weekend special  I referred to. This is the
 sort of thing you are trying to stop and a major reason that I agree with
 you even tho I have no proper training!!
  Cheers Lloyd Charles

 Gil wrote
  I am a little puzzled by  how on earth can an operator  (regardless of
 his
  inherent honesty) get a proper and beneficial analysis result when the
 whole
  purpose and INTENT of sitting down at the instrument was to increase his
  sales of brand X supersoup or whatever .
 




FWD: Belated Groundhog and Mustard Musings from Jim Duke

2002-02-20 Thread bdnow

Mustard Musings

I'm starting the New Year in a new way. I'm auditing the opening classes
of
the new school in town, The Tai Sophia Institute of Herbal Healing,
offering
a Master's Degree therein. Got back in town from Peru in time to attend
a
potluck dinner welcoming the new faculty and the first crop of ten
promising
students. I brought my vegetarian lentil soup, described in an earlier
lentil newletters.  I almost always add a dash of several of the pungent

spices to most of my soups, black pepper, capsicum, garlic, ginger,
mustard,
onion, and turmeric, in a sense making many of the antiarthrtic
phytochemicals including the COX-2- inhibitor curcumin more readily
available. Yes, now that I am no longer employed by the Herb Industry, I
am leaning more and more towards food farmacy, at the same time as the
press is scaring the pants off the public with frightening stories of
herb/drug
interactions. They fail to tell us that herbs kill fewer than 100
Americans
a year (usually those who are abusing the herb) while prescribed
pharmaceuticals kill more than 100,000 Americans a year. And they fail
to
tell us, as did NBC TV News Jan 29, 2002, that 9 million Americans,
including one of the President's close relatives, are abusing
prescription
pharmaceuticals.
I'm auditing these classes because I am very keen that this first
Master's
Degree Program in Herbal Healing  succeed. I'm auditing so that when my
classes come up, I can relate my lectures to the lectures the students
have
already heard or will be hearing, from such luminaries as 7-Song,
Soaring
Bear, Kerry Bone, Steve Dentali, Mary Enig, Kathe Koumoutsias,
Jacqueline Krikorian, Kathleen Maier, Simon Mills, Rachel Pritzker,
Aviva Romm,  Lynn Schumake, James Snow,  Kevin Spellman, Claudia Wingo,
David Winston, and Tom Wolfe. It's been a great pleasure listening to
Simon Mills pivotal openings lectures on the Six Tastes, in which he
first covered the pungent compounds,which have triggered this issue of
my newsletter.
In their book, Principles and Practice of Phytotherapy, used as a text
in
the Tai Sophia Program, Mills and Bone (2000) note that most, if not
all,
members of the mustard family contain glucosinolates (sulfur and
nitrogen-containing compounds, which though not pungent in themselves
are
responsible for the pungency). When a glucosinolate comes in contact
with
the enzyme myrosinase, located in different parts of the cells of most
mustyard relatives, the glucosiniolate is enzymatically converted into
the
pungent (and corrosive) isothiocyanate. Mustard compresses are still
widely
used in Europe for bronchial troubles and chronic inflammatory diseases.
The mucolytic activities of the hot compounds could be useful in many
inflammatory conditions.  Glucosinolates and/or their breakdown products

have long been known for their  allelopathic, bactericidal, fungicidal,
and
nematicidal properties and lately cancer chemoprevention:
GLUCOSINOLATE: \Anticancer PC56:5; \Antiseptic PC56:5; Antithyroid
NIG;\Bactericide PC56:5; \Chemopreventive PC56:5; \Fungicide PC56:5;
\Nematicide PC56:5;

And here's what my database says about isothiocyanates, not surprising
since the glucosinolates, when enzymatically altered by myrosinase, form

isothiocyanates:

*ISOTHIOCYANATE: Anticancer PC56:5; Antiseptic MAB; Antithyroid NIG;
Antitumor MAB; Bactericide MAB; Chemopreventive MAB; Fungicide MAB;
Hypotensive; Goitrogenic MAB; 450- Inhibitor X11506821 ; Mucolytic MAB;
\Nematicide PC56:5;   Respiradepressant; LD50=120

Most interesting to me in Mill's lecture was his description of a
British
mustard handbath for digital arthritis or arthritis of the hand. Simply
put
some dry powered mustard into a pan of hot water. Then immerse your
hands for a few minute. Deep penetrating action detoxifies, apparently.
It's
certainly worth a try. How well I remember my mothers last ten years.
Both
of her hands were almost locked uinto the curved position by what I
assume
was arthritis. And every time my hands lock up due to too much garden
work, I fear that I'll suffer the same fate. But, taking command, I get
on my
exercise bike, get those dumbells, peddling as I exercise the very
muscles
that are tending to cramp up. I believe the rheumatologists when they
say
that one of the best things for arthritis is exercise. And if I find
them
locking up on me rheumatically, I may use some powdered mustard in a
handbath. Or maybe I'll cook up a big batch of mustard greens, with
black
pepper, capsaicin, curry, garlic, and onion, and drink half the
potlikker
and steep my hands in the other half. (making it even more potent by
psiking
with horseradish or wasabi..
But now, let me warn you, as Simon Mill skillfully warned his audience.
Appropriately used, these can be very good phytomedicines. But overdo
it,
and you're in trouble. These compounds are corrosive and will cause
blisters
(sometimes desired by some healers, if not their patients). And while
normal
doses will prevent cancer, this does not mean 

Re: Demeter Non-profit - Not!

2002-02-20 Thread Susan Misgen

**In order to clear up any confusion, an organization or a company cannot
have one without the other.  You cannot declare yourself non-profit
WITHOUT securing tax exempt status.  The IRS likes to know about these
things because that means they owe back taxes and penalties.**

I don't think the above statement is true.  Non-profit corporations are a
name for a type of corporation, not a statement.  Tax-exempt status is
granted by the IRS to certain organizations that meet the requirements for
charitable organizations.  (See publication 557 from the IRS.)  Because the
tax-exempt status is difficult to receive, many non-profits set up a
separate corporation for that purpose.  In many circles, it usually is for
educational purposes--even scholarships to universities.

Susan




Fw: [USCC] Re: Own inspector scolds EPA on sludge

2002-02-20 Thread Frank Teuton

Are we all in the same canoe?

What was it Sojourner Truth said?

If you draw a small circle that excludes me, I will draw a bigger circle
that includes you.

Frank

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 I think the whole argument can be summed up in an American Indian proverb
 which states that, You can't sink the other person's end of the canoe and
 keep your end afloat.

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Re: Demeter Non-profit - Not!

2002-02-20 Thread jsherry

To all especially Frank  Greg,
I have NO interest in pursuing this thread. Go for it those of you who find
it useful. I have NO interest of war of any kind. I am a pacifist. I believe
in PEACE is what that means. Besides, you CAN have a non-profit company and
NOT be tax exempt.

Because Demeter has chosen NOT to engage with us in this dialogue, I choose
to no longer pursue any dialogue on this subject. As far as I am concerned,
certifying agencies are worthless as are names such as organic, biodynamic,
natural etc. Natural was the first of these words to be co-opted by the
powers that be (economic self interest) to use it to sell unnatural products
thirty years ago or more.

The best way I know of to decide whether I should buy a product is to use
the knowledge I have about the company IF I do not know the producer myself.
KNOWING WHO IS GROWING AND PRODUCING YOUR FOOD IS THE BEST WAY TO KNOW THE
VALUE OF YOUR FOOD, NOT AN OUTSIDE CERTIFYING AGENCY.

Those of you who are in the business of producing, distributing, and selling
food may have legitimate economic concerns about third party certifying
agencies. However, as a consumer (or if I were a producer) I am firstly
wanting to know my producer and failing that I would use my INTUITION when
shopping to sense whether or not the food is safe, vital and local.

If you don't trust your intuition and want someone else to tell/sell you
what is accepted as safe or organic or natural, well, good luck. I
think you'd be best off learning to use your intuition since it is unlikely
you're going to know all of the people who produce all of the food you use.
And intuition is a tool that gives good advice!

Know your farmer, know your shopkeeper, talk to the people who are involved
in getting you your food. Learn about the distribution system and the farms
involved. This is the way to engage with your community and be part of the
food system  in which you find yourself.

When you know your producer and you trust your intuition, then certification
is redundant.

I would also like to know how a discussion about healing and radionics so
quickly devolved into a discussion about the failings of the old guard of
bd yet again. And has devolved once again into a sales pitch for Greg
Willis' preps.

How can you have a meaningful discussion about this in this venue, if all
the parties will not engage? It devolves into the same old rant. It is more
constructive to hear how you will change things, how the trademarking of
biodynamics will change the face of bd agriculture, how this nomenclature is
making certification ultimately useless, watering down what has been age old
practices of working in partnership with nature. Let's hear more about your
innovations and less about your litigious threats.

Or please, go ahead and sue already and report back your progress. But
please, please stop trying to start or continue a war with the mother
(Demeter that is).

Blessings,
Jane


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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: FWD: Demeter Non-profit - Not!


Dear Allan and Listmembers,

Due to a momentary misalignment of my brain cells with my eyeballs, I




Re: March 2 - Sustainability, psychology and spirituality workshop

2002-02-20 Thread jsherry

Merla wrote: how do you overcome the fear among us all, whatever our
beliefs, which makes the process so scarey?

If an action does not address the underlying cause of the problem, you
will not solve it.   It's so hard to understand and accept and give up
beliefs and behaviors even when they are not serving us well.

Dear Merla,

It has been my experience that people usually don't give up their beliefs or
outmoded form of behaviors until something forces them to or it feels so bad
that they can't take it anymore and then choose change.

Love is the antidote to fear.

Love  Blessings,
jane




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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: March 2 - Sustainability, psychology and spirituality workshop


This draws me.  It would be wonderful to be able to share in such a
setting.  Markess, will you bring a report of your experiences at this
workshop to us?  Some bibliography.  I would love to go to this, but, of
course, it's too far away.

Reading Savory's book, Holistic Management is very helpful and I've been
thinking about paradigms a lot.  When working closely in the community
with people who support and protect the conventional agriculture
paradigm, how do you overcome the fear among us all, whatever our
beliefs, which makes the process so scarey?

If an action does not address the underlying cause of the problem, you
will not solve it.   It's so hard to understand and accept and give up
beliefs and behaviors even when they are not serving us well.



Moen Creek wrote:





  Planting Seeds of Change:  In Search of a New Paradigm
  An interactive and experiential workshop where we will
  explore the connections among ecology, psychology, and
  spirituality, and how it can lead us to an understanding of
  how to create a more sustainable and life affirming society.

  When: Saturday, March 2, 2002, 10AM to 2PM
  Where: Min Gei Center for Creation Spirituality, 2274 Uphoff
  Road, Cottage Grove
  Madison Wisconsin
  Cost: $5-25 donation (to cover lunch and organizing
  expenses)
  Preregister: Call (608) 257-2553 or email
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] to preregister (required to join)
  Sponsors: Sustain Dane and Min Gei Center for Creation
  Spirituality


  Program schedule
  * Presentation on evolutionary psychology and the mismatch
  theory
  * Identify various core concepts/ideas and use them to
  analyze our present social order
  * Think about how to re-create our institutions to be life
  affirming
  * Open dialog throughout once opening presentation is
  finished
  / Break  lunch
  * Experiential activities: Guided visualization and journey

  Description
  This presentation and workshop is oriented toward
  questioning the fundamental ground work our present social
  system is based upon.  Recent scholarship suggests that
  humans must attend to the context of their evolution if they
  are to function well socially.  You will be introduced to
  some of the ideas associated with ecopsychology and the
  mismatch hypothesis.  These ideas will serve as a vehicle
  for us to contemplate what a sustainable and humane social
  system would look like.  Later in the day you will have the
  opportunity to participate in some experiential exercises
  oriented to deepening the more cognitive aspects of the
  workshop.  We will use a hybrid form of hypnotic guided
  visualization and shamanic journey to create a more
  emotively grounded sense of our ecological identity and our
  animal body.

  Bring
  Food donation (non-perishable)
  Something to lay on
  Something to cover your eyes
  Pillow
  Notebook/pad/journal

  



  Heaven is my father and Earth is my mother and
  even such a small creature as I finds an intimate place in
  its midst.
  That which extends throughout the universe, I regard as my
  body
  and that which directs the universe, I regard as my nature.
  All people are my brothers and sisters and
  all things are my companions.

  The Western Inscription,
  Chang Tsai, 11th century, China.











Re: Demeter Non-Profit - Not!

2002-02-20 Thread jsherry

Frank wrote with great insight: I think the people on this list are much
more in tune with the concept of multiple methods of accomplishing a goal
rather than one orthodoxy. One
pitfall to avoid is excessive indulgence in demonizing the Other.

Here here! I would love it if this list could set itself apart from other
conversations in the world, and NOT participate in demonizing the Other!!

Thanks for your insight,
Jane


- Original Message -
From: Frank Teuton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Demeter Non-Profit - Not!


Hi Jane,

Sorry but all I have for you is a chiding admonishment, eh? Please think of
it kindly





Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-20 Thread Steven McFadden



 I wish you'd comment on this info a bit more. What intentional particles?
 And intention--who's and how to counteract this?

Hi All -
 I would first observe that, from the point of view of Western Tropical
astrology, both Uranus (Cosmic Shakti)  and Neptune (Cosmic Waters) are in
the dry, yang air sign of Aquarius.  That to me seems to be a major Sky Sign
of all this.

Uranus in particular will exactly conjunct the USA Moon (27 Aquarius in the
July 4, 1776 horoscope - Sibley version)  three big times this year.  The
Moon is a major player in our nation chart, for we are founded under the
sign of Cancer, ruled by the Moon.

The three exact conjunctions are :
March 29-31, 2002
Aug. 10-12, 2002 (but in truth Uranus goes slowly over the Moon all summer
in close orb)
Jan 19-21, 2003.

Since the Moon is the primary ruler of the physical waters, it would seem
the year-long conjunction of the drying, shocking  Uranian  impulse will
continue to hit us in the belly and breast (Moon), the heart (Sun in the
Moon's sign of Cancer), and the ankles (Aquarius).  What does that mean in
terms of a nation's physical being?  Your speculation is as good as mine.

We seem collectively unable to handle the Shakti shocks, which are
altogether drying in addition to everything else, and the waters - in all
respects physical, emotional and etheric - are toxic.  All this seems
entirely likely to be intensified in the months ahead.

I could go on at length about the Big Planetary Sky Sign of the year (Saturn
in Gemini opposite Pluto in Sagittarius), but I will suffice to say that
this influence - which has been dominant since 2001, is waxing toward
fulfillment in late May, 2002.

Without trying to be glib, I feel the best any individual can do is to
follow our visions with integrity, and hoe carefully our own little acres.
Larger forces are at work.  Yet our responsibilities to hold the vision and
work toward their realization continue.  But I am getting preachy, so I will
close this section with a short expression of hope.  I feel we (all of us)
are going to come through all of this - ultimately - much more wide awake
spiritually, and much more ready to build a culture that is honoring of all
the beings who are part of the Sacred Hoop of life on Earth. That is good.

 
 Also, Steven, you're a Reiki master, are you not? I was hoping you too could
 share a couple of stories about vibrational healing with us if you don't
 mind...

I have been a Reiki practitioner since 1977, and a Master since 1990.  I
studied with John Harvey Gray, 89, the longest-practicing Master in the
West.  He's great.

I've had dozens and dozens of wonderful experience giving Reiki over the
years, for it is in truth an effective aid.  I served as a firefighter for
years in my small town, and often was able to effectively comfort and
support people in extreme trauma at accidents and fires.

Most recently I arrived to visit at the home of my old friend Sherry
Jennings in Wilton, NH (she has taught the K class at Pine Hill Waldorf
School since forever).  Sherry had just fallen and twisted her ankle
wickedly.  She was in excruciating pain.  The Reiki (and a Medicine Song)
helped enormously.  She was able to sleep comfortably all night, and,
thankfully, next day the X-rays showed no damage.  After the treatment she
never felt any pain, nor was she at all hobbled in her walking.   Sherry was
amazed.  (And truth to tell, so was I - I always am amazed, over and over,
for I'm a skeptical kind of guy. But there, once again, was fresh evidence
staring me in the face).  Yay Reiki !   It's good stuff. Not the answer to
all health issues, but a definite aid. Should be a part of everyone's
Medicine Bag.

Watch who you approach as a teacher, though.  Lots of people have gotten
Wildly Creative with Reiki in recent years.  Some of the innovations are no
doubt worthwhile, but some are dangerous.  Best, I feel, to start with just
the simple basic energies teachings and then work with them for several
years before getting too experimental.  It's good to cultivate humility in
this miraculous realm, and know how little you (and often others) know.

Best, Steven



Steven McFadden, Director
Chiron Communications
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Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-20 Thread jsherry

Glen Atkinson finished off with So folks this is a self regulating
society. Do 'we' have the morality to actually learn consciously what we are
doing and exercise some level of caution and restraint on its development
and distribution or is it every being for themselves regardless of
outcome?

Our societies seem to have both kinds of folks eh? Seems to me we DO have
the morality to learn consciously and exercise wisdom for the greater good.
Let's work on those that have the greater good in their hearts becoming the
dominant force on the planet.

To further Barbara's question about weather patterns, do you use your all in
one homeopathic prep remedies for rain with sequential sprays? Have you
worked on weather patterning with your preps you make, Glen?

Blessings,
Jane

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From: Glen Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Radionics (Drought update)


Gil
I support your concerns here. The little amount of playing around with
my pipe tells me it is a very powerful instrument that can very easily
be abused, consciously or unconsciously. And my experiements with the BD
preps show me they are also very powerful and can create chaos if used
inappropriately.
Given that very few people on the planet actually understand the
spiritual activity of each of the preps and what they do at various
potencies, I am a tad afraid of what this sudden burst of broadcasting
of them will ultimately be doing to themselves and every living being in
their environment. Given the relatively little ability folk have for
viewing life Biodynamically - seeing what the preps do to plants and
animals - then they will probably allow any inbalance to perpetuate for
much longer than is healthy and so on.
So yes highly skilled practitioners are needed for these devices.
For many years I was not inclined to spread potentised prep knowledge
to  BDers as they do not have or seem interested in gaining the skills
to use them. The 'cat is out of the bag' though now, so it is better
people have access to how to understand them, if they wish, than not.
WHich is why I am prepared to travel about the planet showing my basic
understanding and making my books and diagrams available for free on the
web in the vain hope that they will be read, understood and applied in a
manner that can make for conscious preparation usage.
Dowsing I am concerned though does not take steps toward conscious
understanding, it sets folk free with an inexact technique for diagnosis
to apply powerful substances thru a powerful instrument to a wide area
of land. Scarey
 Interestingly there is little chance any form of 'legislation' of this
practise will arise soon as this will neccessitate scientific
acknowledgment that a highly dilute water sample contained in a closed
bottle can influence a simple copper circuit powered by the earth.
Yeah right.
So folks this is a self regulating society. Do 'we' have the morality to
actually learn consciously what we are doing and exercise some level of
caution and restraint on its development and distribution or is it every
being for themselves regardless of outcome?
Glen A

Gil Robertson wrote:

 Hi! Jane, Hugh and the List.
 I agree with your concerns about some one driving a Cosmic Pipe or other
 Radionic Device and putting out energy other than that which is desired.

 I could make your skin crawl with stories about inappropriate use and
 miss use
 of these devices. That is one of the reasons that there is specialised
 knowledge
 that is not in the public domain. While one can open up a Radionic
 Instrument or
 Device and copy it, there are some things that are not apparent, that
 are
 unlikely to be observed and the resulting instrument will not be as
 powerful as
 is possible.

 This is an area in which I differ from Hugh. I do not think that devices
 like
 his Field Broadcaster should be in the public domain. I think it
 requires
 specialist knowledge along with a high degree of  responsibility for the
 resulting broadcast. I note that I do not know of anyone who has
 actually
 followed his design to the last turn on a coil. It seems to be human
 nature to
 improve things. Every deviation from hugh's design, be it the number
 of turns,
 the diameter of a coil or the wire gauge, changes the function of the
 device. If
 you have ever built an old style radio, you will know how important this
 is.
 When one gets to making Preps and setting the boundary of the broadcast,
 is
 where knowledge and taking responsibility really become important. You
 may be
 growing a vegetable crop, such as grass to be grazed, and want to pile
 on
 nitrogen, but the next farm may be into a fruit crop, if your broadcast
 trespasses, you could wipe out his income!!!

 I really think these things should be operated by trained, accredited
 folk,
 possibly supplying the service in some form of profit sharing, based on
 the crop
 produced above average.

 Do 

Mail Irridiation - Seeds

2002-02-20 Thread Aurora Farm

Dear Folks:

We've checked with several other seed companies to find out what they're
doing, and what their understanding is of the situation:

From Rico at Horizon Herbs in Oregon:

In short, USPS is irradiating at two places in the eastern US.  They have
bowed to the seed industry and assure us that they do not irradiate packages
stating LIVE SEEDS, DO NOT IRRADIATE.  Our postal shipments now are
labelled in this manner.  Regards,  Richo

From Deb at Abundant Life Seed Foundation in Washington State:

 We speak to our post office on a weekly basis - right now they are
irradiating those envelopes that are mailed to 6 specific zipcodes in
Wash DC ( we ups there) and envelopes out of New Jersey - they assure
us and because we have also checked with the postmaster general - who
says the same thing at this point we are trusting and still sending
the bulk of our seeds through the post office.  deb

No response yet from Johnny's or Turtle Tree...

Woody and Barbara
Aurora Farm is the only
unsubsidized, family-run seed farm
in North America offering garden seeds
grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods
of spiritual agriculture.  http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora





Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-20 Thread Essie Hull

Our winter in NH has been quite dry.  Unusually dry.  Much too dry.
Essie

At 07:44 AM 2/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
Dear List:
Our experience at Aurora Farm for the past two years or so has been one
where we have to work much harder at the sequential sprays in order to bring
that Blessed Moisture.
And we would have to very much agree with Peter Thompkins take on having
devices(eloptic) any where in one's vicinity. Too much atmospheric
interference for nature to find a balance.
How has everyone's winter been? Dry?
Blessings, Barbara
Aurora Farm is the only
unsubsidized, family-run seed farm
in North America offering garden seeds
grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods
of spiritual agriculture.  http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora


-Original Message-
From: Steven McFadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: Radionics (Drought update)


 
 
  how does this new information jive with the growing
  belief among growers that tiny manmade airborne particles are being
  intentionally released in the atmosphere?
 
 
 Most uncomfortably, I should say.  - S
 
 
 
 Steven McFadden
 Chiron Communications
 7 Avenida Vista Grande  #195
 Santa Fe, NM 87508   USA
 http://www.chiron-communications.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





Re: OFF:Fw: [globalnews] THE CAUSE OF COT DEATH AND HOW TOPREVENT IT.

2002-02-20 Thread Allan Balliett

Friends -

Crib deaths are also caused by innoculations. For many reasons, this 
cause is commonly overlooked or unreported by the authorities. Cases 
of innoculation crib death are often referenced in homeopathic texts. 
-Allan




Re: Radionics (Drought update)

2002-02-20 Thread Allan Balliett

I wish you'd comment on this info a bit more. What intentional particles?
And intention--who's and how to counteract this?

Jane - I talk to farmer regularly - particularly farmers in 
California's Central Valley - who believe that the u.s. airforce is 
depositing small particles of aluminum in the atmosphere. They are 
doing this with alarming regularity and the effects of these drops 
can often be seen, they tell me, by long lasting 'vapor trails.' I'm 
told that at times the sky over the valley becomes a checkerboard, 
with enough lines to make over a hundred squares in the sky. Of 
course, there is even less rainfall in the area than usual.

What's up and why? Who knows? Plausible explanations: the military 
working with the forces of globalization to make certain that all 
U.S. commercial agriculture will occur in other countries? The 
airforce working for the insurance companies to put an end to strong 
tropical storms reaching the U.S. mainland? The airforce  working 
overtime to insure record snows in Utah for the Olympics? Who knows...

But, it's stuff like this that's making cloudbusting - - with it's 
ability to suck clouds of anti-life forces out of the sky - - a 
growing operation on savvy biological farms.

Here's a question for you: why is the government so concerned that I 
wear my seatbelt that they hold more roadblocks for checking 
seatbelts than they ever do for checking exhaust systems for leaks, 
or breaks, or wipers, or, it seems to me, sobriety.

-Allan




RE: Healing

2002-02-20 Thread Paul Fieber

Hi Jane
 
I am a holistic practitioner and I have been involved with vibrational energy healing 
over the past two years.  I use EAV ( Electro Accupuncture by VOLL) instrument.  This 
is a non-invasive, computer based, biofeedback device which measures energy flow 
through the body's accupuncture meridians (energy channels).  It is based on the 
Chinese medical theory that improper energy flow through these meridians causes 
imbalances, which in turn can lead to disease.  

The Chinese model stresses that symptoms are not the disease; they are only messengers 
telling you a problem exists and needs to be addressed.  The BioScan biofeedback 
device has he unique ability to interpert what the messengers are saying.  The cause 
of the problem can then be examined and dealt with.  

A major advantage of the BIoScan over traditional methods of evaluation is that 
thousands of energetic measurements can be produced in less than 5 minutes.  Computer 
printouts of these evaluations then guide the practitioner in confiming energy 
imbalances in the body.  These imbalances are then alleviated with the use of 
homeopathics and herbs as well as mediatiation, yoga and nutrtition.  

Biofeedback and Bioenergitic screening is considered to be one of the most significant 
and advanced brealkthroughs in health care in many years.  It is widely accepted in 
Europe and Canada as a primary method of evaluation for health conditions.  

A total of 12,000 energy vibrations can be measured in a very short period of time.  
It scans all of the major body systems as well as chemicals, heavy metals, geopathic 
stress, yeast, industrial pollutants and allergies along with more than 50 other 
categories.  It also has the ability to look at miasms, which show energy patterns 
from our ancestors.  The energy blocks that are discovered cause the symptoms that 
manifest themselves as disease.  If we free these energy blocks it prevents the 
disease process from occuring.  A big component of the scan is vibrational emotions.  
It will show emotions that have been buried deep in the body for a number of years.  
The Bach Flower Remedies are used to correct these emotional imbalances.  

I quess a better way to put this into easy terms is that it literally looks into our 
future and gives us a picture as to where our health is going.  It is amazing what 
reveals itself in the scans.  We also have the ability to do scans by simply placing a 
hair sample on the instrument and then using ourselves as a proxy which always show  
the energy imbalances on the DNA of the hair sample.  This has also been very 
succesful with pets as they can be scanned using the same procedure.

Even with this incredible device, my personal opinion is that healing iteself must 
begin within us first.  We must have a desire to want change and take responsibilty 
for this change. All the healers or instruments in the world will have no meaning if 
we don't first look within ourselves for the answer.  I have found that most all 
diseases have an unresoved emotional confict as the underlying cause of disharmony.  
This is especally true with Cancer.  It is so easy to run to the doctor and get a pill 
which only masks the symptom and never addresses the real problem. 

True healing begins with loving ourselves as we are and to express love in everything 
we do.  If we were to say everyday to someone I Love You it would change the world.

Paul.  


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From:   jsherry[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Healing

Dear Peter, Barbara et al,

Peter, I am the last person you should ask to define terms like ego
according to the many systems which use such terms: Freud, Theosophists,
Jung, and Steiner all mean something slightly different. Perhaps you or the
many others well read and versed in anthroposophy can discuss 'ego' within
the context of Steiner's work, I however am not qualified to do this.

When I talked about the ego, I meant the part of the self  that has been
constructed by us in order to 'hide' the deeper soul parts of ourselves. The
part that allows us to function with our peers and society with a
superficial persona that we wear like a mask. Many folks actually have
constructed very elaborate personas in order to justify the ways in which
they harm others daily just by going to their job, and the ways in which
they harm themselvs and loved ones through the many intricate and societally
acceptable ways there are in which to do this.

The ego in occult terms is the part of personality that must 'die' in order
to be transformed. The initiate would go through a 'death' experience of
that constructed part of the self that is not the true Self.

Barbara, as for 'going with the flow' I mean not robot-like but being in the
moment, being fully present, Mindful.

Thanks for your eloquent message about 'quantum' healing, Barbara! Any
examples of working with the blueprint and