Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-04 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:26 PM Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils In the agriculture lectures Steiner refers several times to keeping the work on the farm Hi Steve, Alan This is what I like about

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-03 Thread Lloyd Charles
Hi Gil I dont like the idea of sodium bentonite for our soils and am unable to locate calcium bentonite in the time I have left - used in the wine industry but the type they use is a high grade and very expensive - no local suppliers have any - have decided to go with my favourite farm

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-03 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus
Hi Hugh, Steve and BDNowers, After visiting your seminar Hugh, I had the good fortune to spend some time with Greg. As part of that experience we did some stiring in a small barrel. The only vessel that I could imagine being better than a barrel

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-03 Thread SBruno75
In a message dated 4/1/03 6:15:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK Steve (and any others that would like to comment) - I'll try this - a couple of questions though - 1. will this stirred water hold the energy pattern long enough to use it in a vial in the broadcaster (weeks or months) - that

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-02 Thread SBruno75
I do recommend your pipe. Phil Wheeler installed one at a consultation I did the day after I left. I endorsed it and will work within the parameters of these farmers wishes. They need to cover 2500 acres and they want good results. They have been 25 years no till and want to see more

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-02 Thread SBruno75
In a message dated 4/2/03 1:16:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know soil conservation used to recommend bentonite for repairing leaky dams and I thought I had heard of a calcium bentonite is there such a thing ? Maybe my ears were ringing at the time. Calcium bentonite is what Greg Willis

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-02 Thread SBruno75
In a message dated 4/1/03 9:36:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeez, Storch! Why not put your clay in a horn? What's the problem? Afraid it will get some cosmic forces? I use clay/manure or clay silica, I use clay caps in 500 and 501, I am ot really sold on horn clay. Is the horn really

Fwd: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-02 Thread SBruno75
At 5:28 AM -0500 1/4/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I am glad to here that you will get around to actually doing some realm of the living spraying. When you make your cards are the preps right out of the ground or are they stirred? How can you introduce the stirring process to radionics and

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-02 Thread Hugh Lovel
Dear Steve, Okay, next time I stir 500 and 501 I'll make the stirred cards. I'm sure Wendy didn't stir before making the cards. Just incidentally, the most beautiful vortices I've ever seen in stirring were in barrels stirred by Greg Willis. His method was a meticulously prepared pole supported

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-02 Thread James Hedley
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils In a message dated 3/31/03 11:02:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heck I'm not trying to convert you guys to radionics you have no need of it - just see our side

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-02 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:34 PM Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils In a message dated 4/2/03 1:16:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know soil conservation used to recommend bentonite

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-02 Thread SBruno75
In a message dated 4/2/03 4:42:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Steve, question: I don't know if I have missed something, but what would you perceive as the essential difference between broadcasting from an egg filled with compost teas and preps etc, compared to a Hugh Lovel field

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Diver
Hugh Lovel said he likes human-powered BD prep stirring that is done with a tripod stirrer over a barrell, the kind made by Greg Willis, that they made a real nice vortex. These were in use at Topolos Vineyard in Sonoma County. Slide #3 and #4 in the RealSlideShow on my farm home web page shows

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-02 Thread Gil Robertson
Charles and the list, I am interested in the possibility of trialing a number of clays. If I am using a clay, I would tend to go for either bentonite, or a commercially prepared pottery clay, simply because as a one time potter, I have prepared all the clay I want to do for the

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-02 Thread Gil Robertson
Charles and the list, I am interested in the possibility of trialing a number of clays. If I am using a clay, I would tend to go for either bentonite, or a commercially prepared pottery clay, simply because as a one time potter, I have prepared all the clay I want to do for the time and as a

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread SBruno75
Hey, I am glad to here that you will get around to actually doing some realm of the living spraying. When you make your cards are the preps right out of the ground or are they stirred? How can you introduce the stirring process to radionics and field broadcasting? Is there a stirred water

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread SBruno75
In a message dated 3/31/03 11:21:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you meaning cow pat pit or horn clay as the BCR? Due to some bs government eyebrow raising on interstate shipments we stopped all reference to barrel compost or cow pat manure and call it biodynamic compound

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread SBruno75
In a message dated 3/31/03 11:02:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heck I'm not trying to convert you guys to radionics you have no need of it - just see our side of the story - and try to appreciate why we (or some of us) are so interested in these other ways of doing things. Cheers Lloyd

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils Hey, I am glad to here that you will get around to actually doing some realm of the living spraying. When you make your cards

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread SBruno75
In a message dated 4/1/03 8:53:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: broadcaster coils and blending with the patterns of the preps held in the well replicates the role of stirring. cosmic energies coming in through vortex and chaos to blend with the patterns of the preps. I have to dis agree. If

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Lloyd Charles
Steve Storch wrote I have to dis agree. If it is not done by the human hand where does the farm individuality arise from. Take ten minutes, stir the water and make the reagent,, you owe it to yourself...sstorch OK Steve (and any others that would like to comment) - I'll try this - a

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Hugh Lovel
In a message dated 3/30/03 7:08:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: how it can be measured and how it can be changed using Albrecht/Rheams. How can we enhance the vitality using the biodynamic remedies??? By doing sequential sprays of 500, 501, and biodynamic compound remedy [bcr] with 502-508,

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Christiane . Jaeger
of knowledge between the past and the present? Regards, Christiane [EMAIL PROTECTED]@envirolink.org on 02/04/2003 09:27:47 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils Steve Storch wrote I

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Lloyd Charles
Hugh wrote I haven't any doubt that were Rudolf Steiner around today he would be teaching farmers how to use radionic instruments and field broadcasters as well as getting kids to stir preparations for their Waldorf School gardens by hand. Nor have I any doubt about that All those 'anti' to

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Hugh Lovel
In a message dated 3/31/03 11:21:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you meaning cow pat pit or horn clay as the BCR? Due to some bs government eyebrow raising on interstate shipments we stopped all reference to barrel compost or cow pat manure and call it biodynamic compound preparation.

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Hugh Lovel
In a message dated 3/31/03 11:02:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heck I'm not trying to convert you guys to radionics you have no need of it - just see our side of the story - and try to appreciate why we (or some of us) are so interested in these other ways of doing things. Cheers Lloyd

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Hugh Lovel
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils Hey, I am glad to here that you will get around to actually doing some realm of the living spraying. When you make your cards

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Hugh Lovel
In a message dated 4/1/03 8:53:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: broadcaster coils and blending with the patterns of the preps held in the well replicates the role of stirring. cosmic energies coming in through vortex and chaos to blend with the patterns of the preps. I have to dis agree. If

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Lloyd Charles
What about an egg shaped urn buried in the earth, the one I have has a 12,000 foot influence on the farm and surrounding area. I fill it with teas of 500, bc, 501 508, nettles, etc...sstorch Steve, I missed this first time around . this is not radionics ? but as my old dad would say its

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Lloyd Charles
Hi Christiane Thanks for your input - bentonite sounds like good stuff to me - is there just one bentonite - animal feeders round here use sodium bentonite and I can get some of that - I know soil conservation used to recommend bentonite for repairing leaky dams and I thought I had heard of a

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-04-01 Thread Christiane . Jaeger
respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils Hi Christiane Thanks for your input - bentonite sounds like good stuff to me - is there just one bentonite - animal feeders round here use sodium bentonite and I

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-31 Thread SBruno75
In a message dated 3/30/03 7:08:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: how it can be measured and how it can be changed using Albrecht/Rheams. How can we enhance the vitality using the biodynamic remedies??? By doing sequential sprays of 500, 501, and biodynamic compound remedy [bcr] with

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-31 Thread Allan Balliett
In the agriculture lectures Steiner refers several times to keeping the work on the farm in the realm of the living. Ergo, sheathe material from domestic and wild animals, plants, and manures. Bravo, Steve. It's the absolute truth. Working in the realm of the living at all times. _Allan

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-31 Thread Lloyd Charles
Is this a radionics or a biodynamic discussion group??? Hi Steve (and Allan) Last saturday I travelled an hour and a half west of here to install a field broadcaster on a sheep farm, its 13 inch rainfall country and somewhere over 60,000acres, We set up on some rolling sandhill country that has

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-31 Thread Di Handley
Kia ora Steve Are you meaning cow pat pit or horn clay as the BCR? Many thanks Diana

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-30 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD
Hi James I was just looking up some notes in Phil Wheeler book when I came across 3-4 sections on crop vitality and how it can be measured and how it can be changed using Albrecht/Rheams. he also mentioned Dr Arden Andersens other book ' The Anatomy of life and Energy in Agriculture.

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-17 Thread James Hedley
- From: Rambler Flowers LTD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils - Original Message - From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Vitality of the soil seems to not get coverage on BDnow. Maybe one

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-16 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD
- Original Message - From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Vitality of the soil seems to not get coverage on BDnow. Maybe one of the reasons is that until I started to research this concept I had never heard of vitality as being measurable parameter of soil. I write this in the hope

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-16 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD
- Original Message - From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] claim that food is better if grown biodynamically. I love my plants and take great delight in growing plants that have a look of vitality about them. Although they may appear to be very vital plants, each year the seed loses

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-16 Thread Lloyd Charles
Hi James and Tony James wrote (a while back) I love my plants and take great delight in growing plants that have a look of vitality about them. Although they may appear to be very vital plants, each year the seed loses some of it's vitality. Then Tony James Some time ago when Peter

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-14 Thread SBruno75
In a message dated 3/14/03 12:51:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry but I left stirring machines out in discussing manual and radionic methods and the enthusiasm of practitioners. Nothin' to be sorry about. My caution / hesitation / criticism about these type of methods is the absence

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-13 Thread James Hedley
: Vitality and fertility ofsoils - Original Message - From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: Vitality and fertility ofsoils Dear Lloyd, Steve and fellow list members, In Bruce Copen's Agricultural rates

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-13 Thread Jane Sherry
I forwarded some of your posts on this thread to JP who is not on the list, but this was his reply to me: A lot of work has been done on the issue of vitality at The Louis Bolk institute, and they developed parameters through the use of chromatograms and crystalizations. It seems like a new

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-13 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:28 AM Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils In a message dated 3/13/03 7:56:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My question is what is vitality and what enlivens it in the soil

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-13 Thread Hugh Lovel
In a message dated 3/13/03 7:56:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My question is what is vitality and what enlivens it in the soil. James when we get that figured out we will be able to retire on the proceeds. Are you'all kiddin'??? Put away the radionics instruments, pick up your buckets

Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-12 Thread James Hedley
Dear Lloyd, Steve and fellow list members, In Bruce Copen's Agricultural rates there are the rates for soil testing with Carey Reams techniques. Amongst these rates is one for testing the vitality of the soil. Vitality of the soil seems to not get coverage on BDnow. Maybe one of the reasons is

Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-12 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: Vitality and fertility ofsoils Dear Lloyd, Steve and fellow list members, In Bruce Copen's Agricultural rates there are the rates for soil testing