Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-23 Thread Resonant Info
Title: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relic Markess wrote: yes I am catholic as is an other or two on this list and yes we have and do use holy water and crystals ibuded (sp) with their own desires and the rates and concepts we ask them to whether found in St ... or my

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-22 Thread Turtle Bend
Title: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics And what was the original German when you find it. By the by a rate for over-stimulation is 158 5455 L*L Markess

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-22 Thread Resonant Info
No matter without spirit no spirit without matter One ref I found of Steiner quoting this saying was in Mysticism at the Dawn of the Modern Age (GA 7). He must have used it elsewhere too because I don't recall reading that lecture before. See it at:

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-22 Thread Turtle Bend
Title: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics I wonder if they think of this at all? 3 Kings prep? I don't use it, nor agnihotra. But anyone care to get back to the subject? -- Well Graeme, just what is the subject? Apprehension at using the energy that flows out of your

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Roger Pye
Resonant Info wrote: Roger, I can relate it to a mathematical law. Sometimes we take the equation that describes some aspect of an observation as the thing in itself. Does the equation or the relation (not the formula, as written of course) have any meaningful existence, any relevance, without

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Lloyd Charles
So I very much support the wish that we who are experimenting with radionics can and will learn from out mistakes. The mistakes are manifold and the learning process is rather slow, though it does seem to be incremental. It is important that we honestly and publicly acknowledge and discuss

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread James Hedley
, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Hey Roger the Vortexes are all in your head and if you break the law of gravity you will wind up a babbling insane idiot which you are close to anyway On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 03:25 PM, Roger Pye wrote: Eric Myren wrote: The one last thing I wish

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Garuda
To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:31 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics The one last thing I wish to say before I unsubscribe from this list is that the school of Spirit I went to as teenager and over the past

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread D S Chamberlain
, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Your emails now go into the JUNK folder where they belong. no further correspondence will be entered into. R Eric Myren wrote: The bird has shown its true feathers go snort some white gold and get stuffed you turkey! On Sunday, July 20, 2003

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Roger Pye
D S Chamberlain wrote: Ye Ha, when you stir the mob on this list you get a bigger reaction than a hot potato under a horse's tail. I would like to comment on part of what has been alluded to in the previous posts, in particular the assumption that hard physical work is a requirement for humans.

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Resonant Info
Ye Ha, when you stir the mob on this list you get a bigger reaction than a hot potato under a horse's tail. I would like to comment on part of what has been alluded to in the previous posts, in particular the assumption that hard physical work is a requirement for humans. I have been involved with

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Resonant Info
Hey, I'm no mathematician - I have enough trouble as it is with 2 + 2 = 5 :) Roger, your arithmetic skill is at least consistent with your thinking on other matters. I think we humans have a propensity for making things as complicated as we can. ...stuff about energies ...All I and my

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Roger Pye
Resonant Info wrote: ...All I and my colleagues have done is expand the concept to the basis of those flows - that is, the energies which 'move' water or wind. that will be temperature and gravity? Not necessarily Pytrons indeed! Ah, methinks we have here a true exponent of Hot Air

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Resonant Info
Resonant Info wrote: ...All I and my colleagues have done is expand the concept to the basis of those flows - that is, the energies which 'move' water or wind. that will be temperature and gravity? Not necessarily Um..please expand. Pytrons indeed! Ah, methinks we have here a true

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Roger Pye
Resonant Info wrote: Resonant Info wrote: ...All I and my colleagues have done is expand the concept to the basis of those flows - that is, the energies which 'move' water or wind. that will be temperature and gravity? Not necessarily Um..please expand. Pytrons indeed! Ah,

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Lloyd Charles
From: D S Chamberlain Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics I would like to comment on part of what has been alluded to in the previous posts, in particular the assumption that hard physical work is a requirement for humans. I have been involved with a large number

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Turtle Bend
Title: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Hum a little spam may fit L*L Markess Subject: Will Rogers Will Rogers, died in a plane crash with Wylie Post -(as American Sages are want to do) in 1935. Enjoy the following quotes 1. Never slap a man

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Turtle Bend
Title: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Graeme, you make quote of: Two things that Steiner wrote that I find relevant to this statement - No matter without spirit no spirit without matter I can't locate the original source of this quote but I believe Steiner

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Roger Pye
Turtle Bend wrote: Graeme, you make quote of: Two things that Steiner wrote that I find relevant to this statement - No matter without spirit no spirit without matter I can't locate the original source of this quote but I believe Steiner was quoting an old saying.

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-21 Thread Roger Pye
D S Chamberlain wrote: I see no difference between the energies I use with Reiki and with BD or radionics, just the tools I use with them are different. And that is something I am forever trying to get across - whether it is the same tree with different names, or the same energies with

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: Eric Myren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 5:07 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Hi Eric If you need to figure why some of us get peeved at the remarks directed at radionics just

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Eric Myren
ct: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Hi Eric If you need to figure why some of us get peeved at the remarks directed at radionics just take a look at the heading that this thread has run under . -- voodoo, holy cards, and third class relics -- hardly a complimentary way to ap

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Eric Myren
20, 2003 5:07 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics One thing I wanted to say about this is I have a problem with the way Radionics has been portrayed on BDNOW! The almost religious fever that pushes these things as being better than biodynamics is wrong. Radionics

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Roger Pye
Eric Myren wrote: The one last thing I wish to say before I unsubscribe from this list is that the school of Spirit I went to as teenager and over the past 19yrs says DO NOT PLAY WITH PLANETARY ENERGIES BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. PEACE ERIC Well, if we all went along

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Eric Myren
Hey Roger the Vortexes are all in your head and if you break the law of gravity you will wind up a babbling insane idiot which you are close to anyway On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 03:25 PM, Roger Pye wrote: Eric Myren wrote: The one last thing I wish to say before I unsubscribe from this

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Garuda
www.bdmax.co.nz - Original Message - From: Eric Myren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:32 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Sir I respect your opinions and I find your words to be thoughtful

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: Eric Myren To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:31 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics The one last thing I wish to say before I unsubscribe from this list

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Roger Pye
Eric Myren wrote: Hey Roger the Vortexes are all in your head and if you break the law of gravity you will wind up a babbling insane idiot which you are close to anyway Considering we don't even know each other, you are pretty free with your insults, don't you think? Is that what they

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Eric Myren
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:32 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Sir I respect your opinions and I find your words to be thoughtful and full of insight I hope you can be a voice of reason for these people. I only pray that the practitioners

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Eric Myren
The bird has shown its true feathers go snort some white gold and get stuffed you turkey! On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 04:53 PM, Roger Pye wrote: Eric Myren wrote: Hey Roger the Vortexes are all in your head and if you break the law of gravity you will wind up a babbling insane idiot which you

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Roger Pye
Your emails now go into the JUNK folder where they belong. no further correspondence will be entered into. R Eric Myren wrote: The bird has shown its true feathers go snort some white gold and get stuffed you turkey! On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 04:53 PM, Roger Pye wrote: Eric Myren wrote:

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Resonant Info
Roger wrote: .. is that whilst they are invisible in themselves, being spirals of pure energy, they may be located by their usually destructive effects ... Two things that Steiner wrote that I find relevant to this statement - No matter without spirit no spirit without matter I can't locate

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Roger Pye
Resonant Info wrote: Roger wrote: .. is that whilst they are invisible in themselves, being spirals of pure energy, they may be located by their usually destructive effects ... Two things that Steiner wrote that I find relevant to this statement - No matter without spirit no spirit without

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-20 Thread Roger Pye
Resonant Info wrote: Roger wrote: .. is that whilst they are invisible in themselves, being spirals of pure energy, they may be located by their usually destructive effects ... Two things that Steiner wrote that I find relevant to this statement - No matter without spirit no spirit without

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-19 Thread Resonant Info
: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Hi All, I just read an interesting article in the Winter issue of the Newsleaf - the BACA journal, by Brian Keats about radionics. Many will know him as the author of the Antipodean Astro calendar. He puts forward some of the points I and others

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-17 Thread Roger Pye
Words, words, words - language, language, language Those 'diverse methodologies' are all aspects of the same thing - an indefinable thing we call 'natural energy'. Add it to the soil and it grows stuff. Take it away from plants and they stop growing. Applying 'cosmic' or 'earth' forces to it

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-17 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus
. We have been trying to control invasive weeds and the like for almost a hundred years with toxic chemicals and all we have proved is they are no solution. Don't you think it's past time we tried a different approach? Like changing the plants' energy flows, patterns and requirements, for

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-17 Thread Resonant Info
Hi All, I just read an interesting article in the Winter issue of the Newsleaf - the BACA journal, by Brian Keats about radionics. Many will know him as the author of the Antipodean Astro calendar. He puts forward some of the points I and others have made about radionics and BD, but much

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-17 Thread Garuda
Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Hi All, I just read an interesting article in the Winter issue of the Newsleaf - the BACA journal, by Brian Keats about radionics. Many will know him as the author of the Antipodean Astro calendar. He puts forward some

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-17 Thread Turtle Bend
Title: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Well Graeme, can you get permission of either Cheryl or Brian and reprint it here? I believe both are on BDNow. Love to see it. The ease Q is most curious - NO pain no gain? stiquek? L*L Markess From: Resonant Info [EMAIL

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-15 Thread Gil Robertson
Turtle Bend wrote: Gil, with Huge respect for your education, dedication and clarity of writing. i think your codification is illusionary. There is ever widening evidence it is a user friendly universe and reality is what choices you make. The structure and usage is yours for the deciding.

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-14 Thread Garuda
Succussion and dilution is not homoeopathy. The fundamental principle is Like cures like. If BD preps were homoeopathic in this sense - 500 would destroy humus, for example. And it will if it is not continually feed organic matter Just think about that. No, dilution is not the same thing

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-14 Thread Gil Robertson
, July 13, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holycards, and 3rd class relics Glen, Where can I find some of these ex CIA radionicinstruments. James Garuda wrote: . I was told that the CIA had used Radionic for some

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-14 Thread Resonant Info
Hi Glen, You correct me - yes, everything we now know will probably be superseded within the next 2000 years. Even (some of) the laws of physics, unknown for millenia and discovered (uncovered?) only 300-400 years ago are put into question, when seen in a different context. But this is the

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-14 Thread Garuda
But this is the current understanding of homoeopathy, what can u do, just ignore it? No I am not ignoring it. I know of no homeopath who has worked with the homeopathic BD preps and so there are no other authorative views to consider. My experience of them suggests they are different to

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-14 Thread Turtle Bend
Title: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Reiki does not require the conscious use of the practitioners mind. Radionics is completely reliant on the practitioners mind and it's focus. Homoeopathics is a very physical methodology that collects and potentises the energy

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-13 Thread James Hedley
Graeme, Things never have any value within themselves it is only the value which we as people put on them. James Resonant Info wrote: Unfortunately, none of the responses so far even attempted to answer the question. Are any of you conversant with these other uses of icons. Are they the

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-12 Thread Resonant Info
Unfortunately, none of the responses so far even attempted to answer the question. Are any of you conversant with these other uses of icons. Are they the same or if they are different, how so? Eric M pretty much made the point - whether one is personally sympathetic to Catholic belief or

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-11 Thread Turtle Bend
Title: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Graeme, I'm sorry you have come to these beliefs. It's always hard to see some one work hard at learning a discipline and then become disillusioned with it. You wrote: none of Radionics is about actual, living substances and life

Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-11 Thread Garuda
Why not let him present his proof instead of finding some novel way of telling him he is a nutcase. If Greg can prove his style of BD minimizes disease even as it greatly increases the quality, then I think maybe we should all shut up and listen. Rex Harrill Here Here, it is the way