Re: [beagleboard] Re: Development environment for BBB and Win 7 64 bit for C-programming

2017-05-24 Thread Graham 
I have used the same tool chain (in various versions) for Angstrom, wheezy 
and jessie on the BBB without problems.

I think some of the recent security changes in BBB jessie might need to be 
loosened during development, 
(I like to develop in root on the BBB) but once the application is running 
you can move it wherever you want 
and set the security back to maximum.

--- Graham

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 10:12:07 PM UTC-5, William Hermans wrote:
>
> He's got 4-5 videos all on the same topic. Well . . .at least 3 anyway. I 
> still think Ubuntu is the best option, because I know how temperamental 
> Debian can be( for this purpose ). But it does look better with Jessie 
> perhaps ? I'm still using Wheezy on my support system but the only cross 
> compiling I do is with the kernel, and that will change soon when I get my 
> ODROID XU4 development support system up and running. "Building" the case 
> as we speak . . .
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Graham Haddock  > wrote:
>
>> William:
>> Great.  Derek did update his video, although he still refers to the 
>> original one on his website.
>> --- Graham
>>
>> ==
>>
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Development environment for BBB and Win 7 64 bit for C-programming

2017-05-23 Thread William Hermans 
He's got 4-5 videos all on the same topic. Well . . .at least 3 anyway. I
still think Ubuntu is the best option, because I know how temperamental
Debian can be( for this purpose ). But it does look better with Jessie
perhaps ? I'm still using Wheezy on my support system but the only cross
compiling I do is with the kernel, and that will change soon when I get my
ODROID XU4 development support system up and running. "Building" the case
as we speak . . .

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Graham Haddock 
wrote:

> William:
> Great.  Derek did update his video, although he still refers to the
> original one on his website.
> --- Graham
>
> ==
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:16 PM, William Hermans 
> wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9yFyWsyyGk
>>
>> . . .
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Graham  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know of a single resource that covers the whole chain.
>>> The closest is Derek Molloy's
>>> http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-on-the-b
>>> eaglebone-for-c-development/
>>> but it is four years old, and out of date for many of the details, but
>>> the general approach is still the same.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oracle VM VirtualBox on Windows is a standard installation.
>>> Simple enough that you don't need the instructions for much.
>>> You do need to allocate more than the minimum (default) memory and
>>> minimum number of virtualized cores to the VM.
>>>
>>> Ubuntu on VirtualBox is a standard installation.
>>> Get the ISO from the Ubuntu website, and put it on your Windows machine
>>> where it is easy to get to.
>>> Open it from inside the VM.
>>>
>>> Eclipse on Ubuntu is a standard installation. Instructions on the
>>> Eclipse website.
>>> Use the newest one preconfigured for "C/C++" from the Eclipse site.
>>> The one in the Ubuntu apt repository is 4 years out of date. Don't use
>>> that one.
>>> RSE is an optional module for Eclipse, loaded through the application.
>>> Installation instructions are inside Eclipse 'Help.'
>>>
>>> I assume that you will connecting between the BBB and the Windows/VM via
>>> Ethernet local network.
>>> I doubt that this would work through the USB widget/gadget.
>>>
>>> You will probably have to change the security settings on the BBB to
>>> allow SSH into the Root account, for easiest operation of RSE.
>>> Otherwise, you will keep running into the Linux security on the BBB.
>>>
>>> Google is your friend.
>>>
>>> Ask questions if you have problems.
>>>
>>> --- Graham
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 6:50:04 AM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:

 Hallo Graham,

 thank you very much for your detailed advice!

 We have already thought about using a VM, but now that you say, it
 works well, we are going for it. Actually we have very strong notebooks
 with i7, 16gb and pci-e SSD. Using a VM should be no problem.

 Is there a detailed tutorial for the ubuntu + eclipse + RSE
 installation for linux avaiable?

 Best regards
 Stefan


 On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 4:25:03 AM UTC+2, Graham wrote:
>
> If the target is a Linux machine, you will have fewer communications
> problems, if you cross compile from a Linux, rather than a Windows
> environment.
>
> If you must run on a Windows-64 machine, then I recommend you install
> Oracle VM Virtualbox on Windows 64.
>
> Install Ubuntu on the virtual machine.
>
> Install the Linux version of Eclipse for C language, with RSE (Remote
> System Explorer) on Ubuntu.
> RSE allows you to have full access to the target's file system from
> the Eclipse IDE.
>
> I find this works well for writing and running C programs on the BBB,
> provided that you have an adequate Windows machine, such as an i5,
> equivalent, or better processor.
>
> If you have a puny processor in your Windows machine you are better
> off running Ubuntu native on the processor.
>
> I ran into all kinds of Windows-Linux communications problems running
> Eclipse native on Windows.
>
> --- Graham
>
> ==
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 8:03:58 PM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:
>>
>> Hallo guys,
>>
>> I am trying to get a toolchain running for developing the Beaglebone
>> Black in Windows 7 64bits with c-code. Me and my college are working on
>> this problem for some days now, but we can't find a proper solution here.
>> We are both no experts on MCUs but have some basic skills on c-coding. 
>> Our
>> company is running Win 7, so we would like to stick with it.
>>
>> So far we tried different approaches:
>>
>> - Eclipse + ARM Crosscompiler and remote target
>> - Code Composer + ARM Crosscompiler and jtec
>>
>> We tried different tutorials, but always got stuck on some point.
>> Most of the times the guides were outdated, files were

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Development environment for BBB and Win 7 64 bit for C-programming

2017-05-23 Thread Graham Haddock 
William:
Great.  Derek did update his video, although he still refers to the
original one on his website.
--- Graham

==

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:16 PM, William Hermans  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9yFyWsyyGk
>
> . . .
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Graham  wrote:
>
>> I don't know of a single resource that covers the whole chain.
>> The closest is Derek Molloy's
>> http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-on-the-
>> beaglebone-for-c-development/
>> but it is four years old, and out of date for many of the details, but
>> the general approach is still the same.
>>
>>
>> Oracle VM VirtualBox on Windows is a standard installation.
>> Simple enough that you don't need the instructions for much.
>> You do need to allocate more than the minimum (default) memory and
>> minimum number of virtualized cores to the VM.
>>
>> Ubuntu on VirtualBox is a standard installation.
>> Get the ISO from the Ubuntu website, and put it on your Windows machine
>> where it is easy to get to.
>> Open it from inside the VM.
>>
>> Eclipse on Ubuntu is a standard installation. Instructions on the Eclipse
>> website.
>> Use the newest one preconfigured for "C/C++" from the Eclipse site.
>> The one in the Ubuntu apt repository is 4 years out of date. Don't use
>> that one.
>> RSE is an optional module for Eclipse, loaded through the application.
>> Installation instructions are inside Eclipse 'Help.'
>>
>> I assume that you will connecting between the BBB and the Windows/VM via
>> Ethernet local network.
>> I doubt that this would work through the USB widget/gadget.
>>
>> You will probably have to change the security settings on the BBB to
>> allow SSH into the Root account, for easiest operation of RSE.
>> Otherwise, you will keep running into the Linux security on the BBB.
>>
>> Google is your friend.
>>
>> Ask questions if you have problems.
>>
>> --- Graham
>>
>> ==
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 6:50:04 AM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hallo Graham,
>>>
>>> thank you very much for your detailed advice!
>>>
>>> We have already thought about using a VM, but now that you say, it works
>>> well, we are going for it. Actually we have very strong notebooks with i7,
>>> 16gb and pci-e SSD. Using a VM should be no problem.
>>>
>>> Is there a detailed tutorial for the ubuntu + eclipse + RSE installation
>>> for linux avaiable?
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 4:25:03 AM UTC+2, Graham wrote:

 If the target is a Linux machine, you will have fewer communications
 problems, if you cross compile from a Linux, rather than a Windows
 environment.

 If you must run on a Windows-64 machine, then I recommend you install
 Oracle VM Virtualbox on Windows 64.

 Install Ubuntu on the virtual machine.

 Install the Linux version of Eclipse for C language, with RSE (Remote
 System Explorer) on Ubuntu.
 RSE allows you to have full access to the target's file system from the
 Eclipse IDE.

 I find this works well for writing and running C programs on the BBB,
 provided that you have an adequate Windows machine, such as an i5,
 equivalent, or better processor.

 If you have a puny processor in your Windows machine you are better off
 running Ubuntu native on the processor.

 I ran into all kinds of Windows-Linux communications problems running
 Eclipse native on Windows.

 --- Graham

 ==



 On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 8:03:58 PM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:
>
> Hallo guys,
>
> I am trying to get a toolchain running for developing the Beaglebone
> Black in Windows 7 64bits with c-code. Me and my college are working on
> this problem for some days now, but we can't find a proper solution here.
> We are both no experts on MCUs but have some basic skills on c-coding. Our
> company is running Win 7, so we would like to stick with it.
>
> So far we tried different approaches:
>
> - Eclipse + ARM Crosscompiler and remote target
> - Code Composer + ARM Crosscompiler and jtec
>
> We tried different tutorials, but always got stuck on some point. Most
> of the times the guides were outdated, files were missing, versions were
> not compatible or we got errors.
>
> Maybe you guys have experience and can recommend a simple or standard
> solution (Toolchain and guide) to c-code the BBB from Win 7.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Best regards
> Stefan
>
>
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Development environment for BBB and Win 7 64 bit for C-programming

2017-05-23 Thread William Hermans 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9yFyWsyyGk

. . .

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Graham  wrote:

> I don't know of a single resource that covers the whole chain.
> The closest is Derek Molloy's
> http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-
> on-the-beaglebone-for-c-development/
> but it is four years old, and out of date for many of the details, but the
> general approach is still the same.
>
>
> Oracle VM VirtualBox on Windows is a standard installation.
> Simple enough that you don't need the instructions for much.
> You do need to allocate more than the minimum (default) memory and minimum
> number of virtualized cores to the VM.
>
> Ubuntu on VirtualBox is a standard installation.
> Get the ISO from the Ubuntu website, and put it on your Windows machine
> where it is easy to get to.
> Open it from inside the VM.
>
> Eclipse on Ubuntu is a standard installation. Instructions on the Eclipse
> website.
> Use the newest one preconfigured for "C/C++" from the Eclipse site.
> The one in the Ubuntu apt repository is 4 years out of date. Don't use
> that one.
> RSE is an optional module for Eclipse, loaded through the application.
> Installation instructions are inside Eclipse 'Help.'
>
> I assume that you will connecting between the BBB and the Windows/VM via
> Ethernet local network.
> I doubt that this would work through the USB widget/gadget.
>
> You will probably have to change the security settings on the BBB to allow
> SSH into the Root account, for easiest operation of RSE.
> Otherwise, you will keep running into the Linux security on the BBB.
>
> Google is your friend.
>
> Ask questions if you have problems.
>
> --- Graham
>
> ==
>
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 6:50:04 AM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:
>>
>> Hallo Graham,
>>
>> thank you very much for your detailed advice!
>>
>> We have already thought about using a VM, but now that you say, it works
>> well, we are going for it. Actually we have very strong notebooks with i7,
>> 16gb and pci-e SSD. Using a VM should be no problem.
>>
>> Is there a detailed tutorial for the ubuntu + eclipse + RSE installation
>> for linux avaiable?
>>
>> Best regards
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 4:25:03 AM UTC+2, Graham wrote:
>>>
>>> If the target is a Linux machine, you will have fewer communications
>>> problems, if you cross compile from a Linux, rather than a Windows
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> If you must run on a Windows-64 machine, then I recommend you install
>>> Oracle VM Virtualbox on Windows 64.
>>>
>>> Install Ubuntu on the virtual machine.
>>>
>>> Install the Linux version of Eclipse for C language, with RSE (Remote
>>> System Explorer) on Ubuntu.
>>> RSE allows you to have full access to the target's file system from the
>>> Eclipse IDE.
>>>
>>> I find this works well for writing and running C programs on the BBB,
>>> provided that you have an adequate Windows machine, such as an i5,
>>> equivalent, or better processor.
>>>
>>> If you have a puny processor in your Windows machine you are better off
>>> running Ubuntu native on the processor.
>>>
>>> I ran into all kinds of Windows-Linux communications problems running
>>> Eclipse native on Windows.
>>>
>>> --- Graham
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 8:03:58 PM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:

 Hallo guys,

 I am trying to get a toolchain running for developing the Beaglebone
 Black in Windows 7 64bits with c-code. Me and my college are working on
 this problem for some days now, but we can't find a proper solution here.
 We are both no experts on MCUs but have some basic skills on c-coding. Our
 company is running Win 7, so we would like to stick with it.

 So far we tried different approaches:

 - Eclipse + ARM Crosscompiler and remote target
 - Code Composer + ARM Crosscompiler and jtec

 We tried different tutorials, but always got stuck on some point. Most
 of the times the guides were outdated, files were missing, versions were
 not compatible or we got errors.

 Maybe you guys have experience and can recommend a simple or standard
 solution (Toolchain and guide) to c-code the BBB from Win 7.

 Thank you very much!

 Best regards
 Stefan


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[beagleboard] Re: Development environment for BBB and Win 7 64 bit for C-programming

2017-05-23 Thread Graham 
I don't know of a single resource that covers the whole chain.
The closest is Derek Molloy's
http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-on-the-beaglebone-for-c-development/
but it is four years old, and out of date for many of the details, but the 
general approach is still the same.


Oracle VM VirtualBox on Windows is a standard installation.
Simple enough that you don't need the instructions for much.
You do need to allocate more than the minimum (default) memory and minimum 
number of virtualized cores to the VM.

Ubuntu on VirtualBox is a standard installation.
Get the ISO from the Ubuntu website, and put it on your Windows machine 
where it is easy to get to.
Open it from inside the VM.

Eclipse on Ubuntu is a standard installation. Instructions on the Eclipse 
website.
Use the newest one preconfigured for "C/C++" from the Eclipse site.
The one in the Ubuntu apt repository is 4 years out of date. Don't use that 
one.
RSE is an optional module for Eclipse, loaded through the application. 
Installation instructions are inside Eclipse 'Help.'

I assume that you will connecting between the BBB and the Windows/VM via 
Ethernet local network.
I doubt that this would work through the USB widget/gadget.

You will probably have to change the security settings on the BBB to allow 
SSH into the Root account, for easiest operation of RSE.
Otherwise, you will keep running into the Linux security on the BBB.

Google is your friend. 

Ask questions if you have problems.

--- Graham

==

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 6:50:04 AM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:
>
> Hallo Graham,
>
> thank you very much for your detailed advice!
>
> We have already thought about using a VM, but now that you say, it works 
> well, we are going for it. Actually we have very strong notebooks with i7, 
> 16gb and pci-e SSD. Using a VM should be no problem.
>
> Is there a detailed tutorial for the ubuntu + eclipse + RSE installation 
> for linux avaiable? 
>
> Best regards
> Stefan
>
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 4:25:03 AM UTC+2, Graham wrote:
>>
>> If the target is a Linux machine, you will have fewer communications 
>> problems, if you cross compile from a Linux, rather than a Windows 
>> environment.
>>
>> If you must run on a Windows-64 machine, then I recommend you install 
>> Oracle VM Virtualbox on Windows 64.
>>
>> Install Ubuntu on the virtual machine.
>>
>> Install the Linux version of Eclipse for C language, with RSE (Remote 
>> System Explorer) on Ubuntu.
>> RSE allows you to have full access to the target's file system from the 
>> Eclipse IDE.
>>
>> I find this works well for writing and running C programs on the BBB, 
>> provided that you have an adequate Windows machine, such as an i5, 
>> equivalent, or better processor.
>>
>> If you have a puny processor in your Windows machine you are better off 
>> running Ubuntu native on the processor.
>>
>> I ran into all kinds of Windows-Linux communications problems running 
>> Eclipse native on Windows.
>>
>> --- Graham
>>
>> ==
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 8:03:58 PM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hallo guys,
>>>
>>> I am trying to get a toolchain running for developing the Beaglebone 
>>> Black in Windows 7 64bits with c-code. Me and my college are working on 
>>> this problem for some days now, but we can't find a proper solution here. 
>>> We are both no experts on MCUs but have some basic skills on c-coding. Our 
>>> company is running Win 7, so we would like to stick with it. 
>>>
>>> So far we tried different approaches:
>>>
>>> - Eclipse + ARM Crosscompiler and remote target
>>> - Code Composer + ARM Crosscompiler and jtec
>>>
>>> We tried different tutorials, but always got stuck on some point. Most 
>>> of the times the guides were outdated, files were missing, versions were 
>>> not compatible or we got errors.
>>>
>>> Maybe you guys have experience and can recommend a simple or standard 
>>> solution (Toolchain and guide) to c-code the BBB from Win 7. 
>>>
>>> Thank you very much!
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[beagleboard] Re: Development environment for BBB and Win 7 64 bit for C-programming

2017-05-23 Thread 'Stefan' via BeagleBoard 
Hallo Graham,

thank you very much for your detailed advice!

We have already thought about using a VM, but now that you say, it works 
well, we are going for it. Actually we have very strong notebooks with i7, 
16gb and pci-e SSD. Using a VM should be no problem.

Is there a detailed tutorial for the ubuntu + eclipse + RSE installation 
for linux avaiable? 

Best regards
Stefan

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 4:25:03 AM UTC+2, Graham wrote:
>
> If the target is a Linux machine, you will have fewer communications 
> problems, if you cross compile from a Linux, rather than a Windows 
> environment.
>
> If you must run on a Windows-64 machine, then I recommend you install 
> Oracle VM Virtualbox on Windows 64.
>
> Install Ubuntu on the virtual machine.
>
> Install the Linux version of Eclipse for C language, with RSE (Remote 
> System Explorer) on Ubuntu.
> RSE allows you to have full access to the target's file system from the 
> Eclipse IDE.
>
> I find this works well for writing and running C programs on the BBB, 
> provided that you have an adequate Windows machine, such as an i5, 
> equivalent, or better processor.
>
> If you have a puny processor in your Windows machine you are better off 
> running Ubuntu native on the processor.
>
> I ran into all kinds of Windows-Linux communications problems running 
> Eclipse native on Windows.
>
> --- Graham
>
> ==
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 8:03:58 PM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:
>>
>> Hallo guys,
>>
>> I am trying to get a toolchain running for developing the Beaglebone 
>> Black in Windows 7 64bits with c-code. Me and my college are working on 
>> this problem for some days now, but we can't find a proper solution here. 
>> We are both no experts on MCUs but have some basic skills on c-coding. Our 
>> company is running Win 7, so we would like to stick with it. 
>>
>> So far we tried different approaches:
>>
>> - Eclipse + ARM Crosscompiler and remote target
>> - Code Composer + ARM Crosscompiler and jtec
>>
>> We tried different tutorials, but always got stuck on some point. Most of 
>> the times the guides were outdated, files were missing, versions were not 
>> compatible or we got errors.
>>
>> Maybe you guys have experience and can recommend a simple or standard 
>> solution (Toolchain and guide) to c-code the BBB from Win 7. 
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> Best regards
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>>

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[beagleboard] Re: Development environment for BBB and Win 7 64 bit for C-programming

2017-05-22 Thread Graham 
If the target is a Linux machine, you will have fewer communications 
problems, if you cross compile from a Linux, rather than a Windows 
environment.

If you must run on a Windows-64 machine, then I recommend you install 
Oracle VM Virtualbox on Windows 64.

Install Ubuntu on the virtual machine.

Install the Linux version of Eclipse for C language, with RSE (Remote 
System Explorer) on Ubuntu.
RSE allows you to have full access to the target's file system from the 
Eclipse IDE.

I find this works well for writing and running C programs on the BBB, 
provided that you have an adequate Windows machine, such as an i5, 
equivalent, or better processor.

If you have a puny processor in your Windows machine you are better off 
running Ubuntu native on the processor.

I ran into all kinds of Windows-Linux communications problems running 
Eclipse native on Windows.

--- Graham

==



On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 8:03:58 PM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:
>
> Hallo guys,
>
> I am trying to get a toolchain running for developing the Beaglebone Black 
> in Windows 7 64bits with c-code. Me and my college are working on this 
> problem for some days now, but we can't find a proper solution here. We are 
> both no experts on MCUs but have some basic skills on c-coding. Our company 
> is running Win 7, so we would like to stick with it. 
>
> So far we tried different approaches:
>
> - Eclipse + ARM Crosscompiler and remote target
> - Code Composer + ARM Crosscompiler and jtec
>
> We tried different tutorials, but always got stuck on some point. Most of 
> the times the guides were outdated, files were missing, versions were not 
> compatible or we got errors.
>
> Maybe you guys have experience and can recommend a simple or standard 
> solution (Toolchain and guide) to c-code the BBB from Win 7. 
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Best regards
> Stefan
>
>
>

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