On 11/12/2020 10:45, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
[...]
The current Debian project leader has reached out to offer help in some sense.
https://jonathancarter.org/2020/12/10/centos-stream-or-debian/ - I'm willing
to help anyone where I can with issues or knowing where to point to to find
things or
Michael Di Domenico
> Sent: 10 December 2020 14:13
> Cc: beowulf@beowulf.org
> Subject: Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:05 AM Jonathan Aquilina
> wrote:
> >
> > A fork is something im thinking about doing in all fairness. Hopin
m you need in terms of packages installed to
> get going with a core OS and then can slowly build on top of?
>
> Regards,
> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Michael Di Domenico
> Sent: 10 December 2020 14:00
> Cc: beowulf@beowulf
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 13:05:25 +, you wrote:
>A fork is something im thinking about doing in all fairness. Hoping to start
>soon on it. Need to at this point figure out how to clone the repositories and
>start my own testing etc.
Not trying to discourage you, but doing a Linux fork
wulf@beowulf.org <mailto:beowulf@beowulf.org>
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 05:59:11AM +, Jonathan Aquilina via
Beowulf wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Im probably a bit late to the party. What is going on with
I have had the same experience as you, but we represent only 2 data
points in a large market. I think many decision-makers like to pay for
support as a form of "insurance" for when the s**t hits the fan and
system goes terribly wrong. I have worked at a couple of different
places that paid for
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:55 AM Jonathan Aquilina
wrote:
>
> I might look into that as well. Will it have the same security stack like
> Centos in terms of SEL and any other security measures I might not be aware
> of?
reading around the net, it seemed to me at least, that hpcng/rockyos
was
@beowulf.org
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:17 AM Jonathan Aquilina
wrote:
>
> I should give LFS a try but I always tend to get stuck somewhere.
yeah, i've been down that rabbit hole as well. i think as LFS grew some of the
instructions wavered
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:17 AM Jonathan Aquilina
wrote:
>
> I should give LFS a try but I always tend to get stuck somewhere.
yeah, i've been down that rabbit hole as well. i think as LFS grew
some of the instructions wavered a bit because of the nonsense in some
of the software drops like gcc
:13
Cc: beowulf@beowulf.org
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:05 AM Jonathan Aquilina
wrote:
>
> A fork is something im thinking about doing in all fairness. Hoping to start
> soon on it. Need to at this point figure out how to clone the rep
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:05 AM Jonathan Aquilina
wrote:
>
> A fork is something im thinking about doing in all fairness. Hoping to start
> soon on it. Need to at this point figure out how to clone the repositories
> and start my own testing etc.
> Anyone know what the bare minimum you need in
with a core OS and then can slowly build on top of?
Regards,
Jonathan
-Original Message-
From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Michael Di Domenico
Sent: 10 December 2020 14:00
Cc: beowulf@beowulf.org
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:45 PM Lance Wilson via
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:45 PM Lance Wilson via Beowulf
wrote:
>
> Rolling is not ideal when you have to compile software against the installed
> libraries or kernels. If you have or are running Arch Linux you will know
> what I'm talking about. There are regular niggles with things, especially
there something that one needs to be weary about
> with a rolling distro?
>
> Regards,
> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Andrew M.A. Cater
> Sent: 09 December 2020 10:24
> To: beowulf@beowulf.org
> Subject: Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP Ce
To: beowulf@beowulf.org
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 05:59:11AM +, Jonathan Aquilina via Beowulf wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Im probably a bit late to the party. What is going on with CentOS? As I am
> not quite understanding wha
ast to the party with other
CVE fixing).
CentOS - going away, EOL as CentOS 2021 rather than 2029.
CentOS Streams becoming a rolling distribution feeding the six monthly RH
update.
Andy C
> From: Beowulf On Behalf Of Tim Cutts
> Sent: 09 December 2020 02:08
> To: Prentice Bisbal
>
2020 02:08
To: Prentice Bisbal
Cc: Beowulf
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]
I don’t know how often we ever actually used Red Hat support for RHEL itself.
Very rarely, I suspect. Even before they hiked the price on us, I expect we
effectively paid them several thousand dollars
I don’t know how often we ever actually used Red Hat support for RHEL itself.
Very rarely, I suspect. Even before they hiked the price on us, I expect we
effectively paid them several thousand dollars per support call.
Some of the other products, like RH OpenStack Platform, yes, but not for
Dear all,
maybe we should take that as an opportunity to gently move vendors in the
direction to not only support rpm based but also deb based distributions?
In the end, if I really only can get hold of a rpm package, I still can use
the Debian 'alien' command to convert it to a deb package.
On 12/8/20 5:05 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
On Dec 8, 2020, at 4:59 PM, Tim Cutts wrote:
On 8 Dec 2020, at 21:52, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
It’s pretty common that if something supports only one distribution, it’s
RedHat-based. That’s also true of hardware vendors.
True, officially, but
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 4:59 PM, Tim Cutts wrote:
>
>> On 8 Dec 2020, at 21:52, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
>>
>> It’s pretty common that if something supports only one distribution, it’s
>> RedHat-based. That’s also true of hardware vendors.
>
> True, officially, but often not officially. Again,
Yup. FAI was a very nice tool for automating large sale Debian and Ubuntu
installs. Much better (in my personal experience) than trying to use something
like Satellite.
Tim
On 8 Dec 2020, at 21:57, Joe Landman
mailto:joe.land...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've built clusters with many of these:
On 8 Dec 2020, at 21:52, Ryan Novosielski
mailto:novos...@rutgers.edu>> wrote:
It’s pretty common that if something supports only one distribution, it’s
RedHat-based. That’s also true of hardware vendors.
True, officially, but often not officially. Again, back around 2008 I found it
I've built clusters with many of these: Debian, Ubuntu, RHEL, CentOS,
SUSE, etc. I got the least pain using Debian, while SUSE was the
hardest, though RHEL was right behind it.
On 12/8/20 4:55 PM, Tim Cutts wrote:
We did use Debian at Sanger for several years. The main reason for switching
We did use Debian at Sanger for several years. The main reason for switching
away from it (I’m talking about 2008 here) was a desire to have a common OS
across desktops and servers. Debian’s extremely purist stance on open source
device drivers made it a pain on desktops and laptops, because
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