Re: Berner Puppy?

2002-11-05 Thread berner1
Tanya, You did it just right! Just by sending the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - we all see it! What part of the world do you live in? And what are your expectations for a puppy - did you want one as a family companion, or did you also want to do obedience competition, or show in conformation,

ADMIN: Re: Bloemart's

2002-11-18 Thread berner1
I'd like us all to be very careful when posting about other people, owners, breeders, whatever. If you are posting about positive experiences, it's not an issue. But if you are posting about negative experiences, it can be very tricky. I don't want lawsuits threatened, I hate seeing that

Re: Re Contracts/Guarantee

2002-11-18 Thread berner1
Sandy, Thank you for your continued interest in the Breeder Checklist, I certainly appreciate it! There are several other sections that already address the various aspects of breeding such as championships and health certifications. Spay and neuter requirements are also already addressed, so

BMD pictures request

2002-11-18 Thread berner1
Forwarded for Ann Milligan (not a List member), please help if you can, she writes some great stuff! I'm looking forward to this one! Please respond directly to Ann at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pat -- Hi, I'm looking for digital BMD pictures. What I am interested in are pictures

Re: RESCUE TRANSPORT NEEDED ASAP

2002-11-21 Thread berner1
Posted in plain text for Ellen: I am in need of a relay caravan to get my rescue dog from Wisconsin. I have some names and offers but need to put the puzzle together. I will be at work and school today. I will be available by phone after 7pm but will check my mail periodically during the

ADMIN: Vacations and the Berner-L

2002-11-21 Thread berner1
Just a reminder to everyone who will be on vacation or out of the office next week, don't forget to postpone the Berner-L. The error crew doesn't like postponing or deleting people (unless we're feeling very cranky, it happens), so do remember to postpone! www.berner.org/service If you need

ADMIN: Replys, Signatures, etc

2002-11-26 Thread berner1
This is just a reminder, when you are replying to a message, please cut out just the specific part to which you are commenting. Do NOT copy the entire post, especially if you get the digest version. If you are replying to the digest, please take a second to change the Subject line to something

Re: Old Berner Referral List update

2002-12-03 Thread berner1
And Doug? Thank you so much for all the work you've done for the breed! You found a need, and you took it on! For every older Berner, or for any special needs Berner that has found a home because of your help, THANK YOU!! I just hope you don't get too busy in the coming years. But if you do,

Wingfield's American Pi 7/8/98 - 12/04/02

2002-12-04 Thread berner1
posted in plain text for Cathie: I just received a very sad phone call from my dear friend, Laura Peschke of Cleveland, Ohio. Laura has been the proud keeper of my first born pup, Wingfield's American Pi aka Pi. Pi was due to come into this world on the 4th of July, hence the name.

AOL Problems

2002-12-17 Thread berner1
Thanks to all of you who wrote with ideas, just to clarify - I am unable to reply to any AOL addresses, so if I don't respond to you, you'll know why! AOL is rejecting all of my emails. As best as I can figure, concentric.net is now identified by AOL as a source of spam, so it has all been

Re: Not a Brag -- A Clarification

2003-01-21 Thread berner1
Maria, Guffaw. And of course it wasn't a brag, of course it was just a clarification. Oh, this isn't an email, it's a note. Just wanted to clarify that! However! Daisy, you did brag about teaching Buddy everything he knows! So if you want to send some of his kibble to the SPCA as a brag

Re: Pat's little secret about those great calenders

2003-01-21 Thread berner1
If you don't have one of these calendars, it's a beauty and a keeper! A...come on Pat, admit it. I have one of these neat calenders hanging by my computer so I know your secret motivation. Just b/c your dog is on it...??!! :-) Vilma, you're just jealous because October is such a

Re: 2003 Specialty

2003-01-22 Thread berner1
Sharon, The 2003 Specialty is in Long Beach California, the logo is California Surfing. They have some really nice Ways and Means items... http://www.bmdcaspecialty.org/2003/ Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA Check

Re: BARC LOC Challenge Fundraiser - upcoming auction?

2003-01-22 Thread berner1
Can anyone verify information I heard about the upcoming February auction? 53 Berners and 5 Leonbergers? Has anyone heard any specifics? I'm hoping some commercial breeders are going out of business? Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay

Idea for Oprah?

2003-01-30 Thread berner1
Someone has just asked me if it would be possible to present an idea to Oprah about doing a show on the puppy mills and auctions. I know that people have raised this idea in the past (since Oprah has a few Golden Retrievers, it's possible she would have some interest in the merits of the

ADMIN: Issues with the List

2003-02-11 Thread berner1
If you have problems, if you are postponed and you don't think you should be, if you have any questions of any kind whatsoever, please DO NOT under any circumstances send emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] They do not manage the Berner-L, I do with the able assistance of the error crew. All that

Re: Doggon Wheels, et al

2003-02-11 Thread berner1
Before everyone runs off on their own here, do figure out a way to coordinate efforts! I know that Andrea Brin jumped on this right after the issue caem up, and it would be beneficial to know what she has done before everyone starts talking with individual companies. We're a crowd that likes

Marginheight

2003-02-19 Thread berner1
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Re: Haggis

2003-02-20 Thread berner1
http://www.electricscotland.com/haggis/ Laura, I actually have a Haggis Whistle, which is used in Scotland to call the haggis down from the hills (in the proper season, of course). I've found that it also works beautifully when I'm doing Berner portrait photos, gets those ears up! Pat Long, a

Congratulations

2003-03-07 Thread berner1
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A special funny website

2003-03-15 Thread berner1
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Re: Sherman's Way; part 1

2003-03-18 Thread berner1
posted gleefully in plain text for Donna and Sherman Open OB From Sherman's view point: The morning of March 8th, Mom got up early. I knew we were going on a trip even though Mom tried to hide it. She didn't want me to wake up Dad. He was staying home and that means one thing to me.

Re: My Way; Sherman and Donna, part 2

2003-03-18 Thread berner1
posted in plain text for Donna: Graduate Novice from MY point of View We enter the ring for the heel free exercise. Sherman appears ready, off we go and other than a few crooked sits he actually did a very nice job. Not quite as nice on the figure 8. He was wrapping himself around the poles

Re: Real Rescue Phone Calls....sigh....

2003-03-18 Thread berner1
Forwarded in plain text for Vilma - for all of you who do rescue! Pat -- It was originally from the Brittany list, but I have heard some of these excuses (especially #8!) given to me by people who no longer wanted their Cardigans (or Pems, or Dachshunds). Kathy

Re:About Bio spot

2003-03-18 Thread berner1
posted in plain text for Di: [Note: any dog may have a reaction to almost anything, so a product that is good for one dog, may or may not be all right for another! Always be wary when trying anything new. Thanks Di!] Pat I tried Bio spot on Highlander and had a terrible

Blue Ridge BMD Club's Tailgate Party

2003-03-21 Thread berner1
Forwarded for Joanna! Hello everyone, Ye Olde Blue Ridge BMD Club's Tailgate Party will commence tomorrow starting at ~11:00 am at the NC State Fairgrounds in Raleigh, NC. Guests are very welcome, as well as all the oldies (but goodies!) We will have a grill, a small canopy (although the

New Release - BMDCA Info Series: BMDs Rescue

2003-06-06 Thread berner1
There is a new Information Bulletin on the BMDCA website, be sure to take a look at it: www.bmdca.org And take a look at all the others while you are there! Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA Check any e-mail over

Re: Request for Input - BMDCA Info Sheet Re: Understanding Pedigrees

2003-06-06 Thread berner1
reposted in plain text for Robin. Read up people, I know you have questions and input about this one - I'll dig up some of the old digest posts about the registry information that some of you have done, anything else you've posted that you think might help, let me know and I'll try to find it

Re: what age do puppies start drooling?

2003-05-30 Thread berner1
Julie, Welcome to the List, and I'm so glad you're asking questions! You will get plenty of answers on this List, and I hope you have fun with us. Even if you decide to get a different breed, we'd love to hear back from you! As for drooling Berners. They aren't supposed to, of course, but some

RE: Lancaster county

2003-06-09 Thread berner1
Scott, Just to clarify a few things. There are many breeders in Lancaster County. Some of them are wonderful breeders, we have some excellent Berner breeders who are located there. There are also a large number of backyard breeding operations, where profit may or may not be the prime

Contacting Governor Rendell of Pennsylvania

2003-06-11 Thread berner1
The email address I copied this morning is incorrect, thank you to everyone that pointed it out to me! To contact Gov. Rendell, you can use this website: http://www.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Governor/govmail.html Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA

Re: discouraged by breed post

2003-06-12 Thread berner1
Lisa, I just assisted a Leonberger owner in getting blood samples to the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center for the study on malignant histiocytosis, four littermates had died of the disease. Hip and elbow problems? They have them. Dogs sold at auction? They have them. Strict does not

Re: Cancer Studies

2003-06-12 Thread berner1
Vicky, Molly has already detailed who can help with the Fred Hutchinson study on histiocytosis, and to make life more complicated, we also have another study for histio that your two dogs CAN participate in. We are currently working on the www.bmdca.org website Health section, it is going to

Re: Cancer and OTHER Studies

2003-06-12 Thread berner1
Vicky, In addition to the histiocytosis research at Fred Hutchinson and Dana Farber, there are a number of other studies that I can summarize here. Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center has been working for a number of years to map the canine genome, they have been working in concert with a

2004 Specialty

2003-06-16 Thread berner1
Do take a look at the website for the 2004 Specialty! http://www.bmdcaspecialty.org/2004/ Check the schedule of events and look at the names of the people who are chairs for the various events and functions. Are you going as a spectator? Want to learn more about obedience? Volunteer as a

Re: weather vanes

2003-06-18 Thread berner1
Molly, Yes, that company DONATED a weather vane for the Health Fund Auction we had in West Virginia. They are just beautiful!! Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aren't these the weather vanes that were auctioned in WV? Molly Came across these

Re: Beware, another virus around!

2003-06-30 Thread berner1
People have reported getting this one with my email address on it, I know I've gotten it with the address of some of my friends, so do NOT open any attachments unless you know who is sending it to you and why. When in doubt - delete! And update that virus scan software, keeping it current is

Re: First Points!

2003-07-01 Thread berner1
Ruth, Owner/handler wins are the very best ones, and they are always a terrific brag - especially when they are 5 point majors! A big CONGRATULATION!! The fact that your husband also looks good in a suit is a perfectly objective opinion I'm sure, and so therefore would not be a brag at all,

Re: choosing training classes - good, bad, and ugly

2003-07-02 Thread berner1
This came through garbled for some of us, reposted for Vilma: A recent post stated for novice dog owners, any training is better than none. I really have to disagree. Ineffective and/or abusive training absolutely CAN be worse than no training. Not only does the novice owner feel hopeless

Re: Help with pack issues

2003-07-10 Thread berner1
Reposted, I don't know if it's just my server, but sometimes AOL garbles everything! - Pat First of all this has nothing to do with you and you sister. This has to do with dominance issues between the dogs. This sounds like it could be related to food and treats and could possibly be

help for pack issues--more

2003-07-10 Thread berner1
forwarded for Vilma: Cindi, I forgot the most important part, if you are going to be in this household long term, I would strongly suggest seeing a qualified animal behavorist for some consultations -- one who uses POSITVE methods to help you work thru the issues w/ the dogs. (check out

Re: Cabela's

2003-07-10 Thread berner1
Well, that, and getting the word out to other dogs lists, and getting the word out to serious hunting friends that shop at Cabela's and who are actually very caring and responsible dog owners. Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA - Original Message - From: Research Coordinator [EMAIL

Re: What's Next???

2003-07-14 Thread berner1
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web site: http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/ Joye, Some great stuff that's been donated, I love that clock with the Berner. Is it a one of a kind as I suspect? And will you accept even my bad ideas for a name for the Costco

Re: Dog cars- Suburban is ultimate Bernermobile

2003-07-17 Thread berner1
Forwarded for Vilma in Plain Text: Andrea, I really liked my 1998 Ford Expedition - got so much extra room for not that much extra $ and the 4 wheel drive and high clearance was great in the snow. Could get 3 wire crates in (2 of about the 700 Varikennel size and a 400.) But I am totally in

Re: Protocol for Vaccinations

2003-07-17 Thread berner1
Try: http://www.doglogic.com/vaccination.htm http://www.vth.colostate.edu/vth/savp2.html http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/vmth/clientinfo/info/vaccinproto.html You'll find more information than you may want to wade through if you do a google search on canine vaccine protocol Pat Long

Re: Berner Rescue Protocols

2003-07-18 Thread berner1
Lisa, I know this is the way it's working now, but there has to be a better solution. People won't always know what person to contact, which club has jurisdiction, or if we have a person in another breed involved, then they wouldn't have a clue as to where to go to contact anyone. I don't

[no subject]

2003-07-22 Thread berner1
forwarded for Heidi, please respond to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Heidi, we will figure out why your email address isn't on the L right now) - Pat It is with much, much sadness and many tears that I write this message. My sweet, sweet Deija girl was put to rest yesterday afternoon. She went

Re: blowing coat-intact female

2003-07-24 Thread berner1
Dearest Daisy and Buddy, You do NOT need to stow away. I plan to spoil you both silly! On the couch, allowed! On the bed, allowed! Snuggling? Demanded! By the time your Mom gets back, you won't remember any of the silly rules that you've been taught. blink, blink... Andrea - Chi didn't have a

Re: blowing coat-intact female

2003-07-24 Thread berner1
Andrea, We forgot to mention the one sure-fire way to cause a Berner to blow a coat. Dog shows. The coat can be thick and lush when you send in the entries, but the coat is guaranteed to look more like a Swissy's by the time the actual show rolls around. Do you happen to have Chi entered in

Re: administrative question

2003-07-25 Thread berner1
To postpone, add, delete, change email addresses, switch from digest to individual, go to: www.berner.org click on: berner-l accounts Or keep my email handy, and just contact me! Good luck with the move!! Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA

Fw: Re: Harnesses Haltis?--pulling on lead

2003-07-28 Thread berner1
forwarded in plain text for Vilma: I would not ever walk a dog on a Halti or Gentle Leader head halter at the same time w/ other dogs you are not paying enough attention and he could suddenly run and jerk his neck/head around and seriously hurt his neck. Until he learns to walk nicely on

Re: harnesses, Haltis, prong collars

2003-07-29 Thread berner1
forwarded in plain text for Vilma: In a message dated 7/29/2003 12:40:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: prong collars are forbiddenand even if they was not forbidden I would not use them. The feeling of the best for the dog is always the most important, more

Re: harnesses, Haltis, prong collars

2003-07-30 Thread berner1
Forwarded in plain text for Vilma: In a message dated 7/29/2003 9:48:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a proper way to put on a prong collar? Yes, it is very easy. Just take it apart in the middle and put it back together on the dog. Simply squeeze any two of

Brew Brags!

2003-07-31 Thread berner1
My boy Brew got his 1st CD leg with a 187 Of course, it's superior intellect on the part of my dog 2B, it had very little to do with the handler/trainer. Well, I'm sure the 13 points deducted were undoubtedly handler error, although all I can say is he's lucky I wasn't the handler. The

Re: Brew Brags!

2003-07-31 Thread berner1
Liz, Not to worry, s, don't tell, but maybe I'll make the brag donation to the Berner-Garde Name the Costco Berner fundraiser as a surprise gift for Brew's handler and rescuer! Let her go crazy trying to choose from among 97 items... Pat Long, a babysat Daisy Buddy, ( LUTHER) Berner-L

Re: Prong Collars

2003-08-04 Thread berner1
forwarded in plain text for Vilma: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: German Shepherd that had been trained on a prong collar. The owner had been told this was the way to go but I think he was very inexperienced and the dog had suffered quite a lot. A great deal of patience and love used to try

Re: sweet rescue Berner mix - happy ending!

2003-08-04 Thread berner1
forwarded in plain text for Vilma (and I'll also say that I still think it's just as possible that Buzz is a purebred as it is that he's a mix!): Just wanted to thank everyone who helped me w/ the sweet little Berner mix, Buzz, who we rescued in the nick of time from the Ohio shelter. Buzz

Re: Top AKC Agility Berner! - Brag Donation

2003-08-09 Thread berner1
Kris, Well congratulations! A great brag and a great team, Lexi didn't do it alone! As for the brag check, why not send it to Joye Neff for the current Berner-Garde fundraiser? I'd name that Costco Berner Lexi if I were you... http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/#top Hugs to Lexi!!