[Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone

2011-02-28 Thread Albert Estrada
My company is pushing to open activesync to start testing Iphones. I have nothing against the iphone but in a business I feel the Blackberry is better designed. Has anyone else had this issue and what argument pieces did you find to support your case? Albert Estrada Network Support P: (909)

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2011-02-28 Thread Steve Bailey
. From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Albert Estrada Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 2:53 PM To: 'Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com' Subject: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone My company is pushing to open activesync to start testing Iphones

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2011-02-28 Thread Mike Sullivan
Hi Albert, I am of no help to you, I just lost the battle and we now have an iPhone and a Droid running on ActiveSync with more to follow soon. I was hoping to stay all Blackberry but when upper management makes the push it was a losing cause on my part. I might be able to stop the iPhone

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2011-02-28 Thread Albert Estrada
Thanks for the link -Original Message- From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Decker, Winfield R. CTR NNMC Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 11:57 AM To: Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone

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2011-02-28 Thread Decker, Winfield R. CTR NNMC
, 2011 3:01 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone We've been using Good Technology for iPhones (also supports Androids etc). Nice, containerized application for the iPhone. So deleting a device isn't actually deleting the phone, it only

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2011-02-28 Thread Albert Estrada
it (from what I read). From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Eggan, Mark Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:01 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone We've been using Good

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2011-02-28 Thread Michael Wells
New and shiny almost always wins over dull and secure. We use Good here as well, for the Android and iphones. The best security model of the bunch, but it's expensive. For verizon there is also a feature code you must add (which requires a corporate data plan, usually an extra $15/mo) for Good

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2011-02-28 Thread hdawg
a BB and an iPhone From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Steve Bailey Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 2:58 PM To: 'A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.' Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone We have the same

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2011-02-28 Thread hdawg
a BB and an iPhone From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Steve Bailey Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 2:58 PM To: 'A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.' Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone We have the same

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2011-02-28 Thread hdawg
To: 'A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.' Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone I agree and I carry a iPhone for the fun apps and Pandora and I do all my serious work on my Bold. Unfortunately the execs of the world see the glitz and glamour of the iPhone and they have

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2011-02-28 Thread Martinez, Rene
. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone My biggest issue opening up activesync is control. With a blackberry, IT configures device and gives to user. With Activesync how do you stop the user from copying the settings and configuring multiple devices (iphones, tablets, etc). Plus

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2011-02-28 Thread Peterson David
the security on it. From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Steve Bailey Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 11:58 AM To: 'A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.' Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone We have the same issue here

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2011-02-28 Thread Albert Estrada
Thanks Rene for the powershell commands, that does help. From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Martinez, Rene Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:23 PM To: 'A list for BES Admin's' Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone Albert

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2011-02-28 Thread Eggan, Mark
to discuss issues,etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone Could you provide any more info on this? My understanding is that Good uses encryption from the device back to the Good NOC and then back to our enterprise. There is no direct connection between the device and our network, so

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2011-02-28 Thread Bob Fronk
Admin's to discuss issues, etc.' Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone We have the same issue here. There are some third party companies that say they can support iPhones with the same level of care as BES but I have yet to actually get one to work. We purchased a solution but it was very

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2011-02-28 Thread Don Andrews
, February 28, 2011 12:04:40 PM Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone GOOD does not secure the entire device. It only secures the App. Keep in mind that any app on the phone can use the device's data connection, so if end users VPN through GOOD your backend network is still vulnerable to outside

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2011-02-28 Thread Don Andrews
ly applies if the OS supports it (from what I read).From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Eggan, MarkSent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:01 PMTo: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Ip

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2011-02-28 Thread Steve Bailey
: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone What 3rd party app did you get for this? (even if it isn't working, I would like to take a look at the web page) BF From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Steve Bailey Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011

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2011-02-28 Thread Todd R. Martin
a $300 phone. I want to use it for a $300 phone - not an enhanced calculator. Hope this helped someone :) Todd From: hdawg [mailto:hd...@port3101.org] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:08 PM To: 'A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.' Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Blackberry vs Iphone