Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Anush Mohan
Hi Jorge, Related to this topic, I had couple of queries as well. Could you please clarify. 1. I hope the section of RFC pasted by Jai is superceded by the particular DF algorithm used. If all PEs can decide one particular backup PE for Ethernet-segment based on HRW (for e.g), only

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
Thanks, Jorge. This is inline with my thinking. So, in single-active multihoming, once the primary is dead we don't need to wait for the DF election to happen for the backup (or some other PE in the ES) to become active and start forwarding traffic over the ES, instead it only requires the remote

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Jaikumar Somasundaram
In-line. From: Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 3:33 PM To: Jaikumar Somasundaram ; bess@ietf.org Cc: Jiang He ; P Muthu Arul Mozhi Subject: Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure In-line. Thx Jorge From: Jaikumar

Re: [bess] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-expl-track-10

2018-10-04 Thread Eric Rosen
> Minor issues: > - > > As I understand it, if a network only partially supports the new > (LIR-pF) flag, it doesn't work properly. So we find at the end of > section 2: > > ...the ingress node can conclude > that the egress node originating that Leaf A-D route does not support >

[bess] Last call comment to draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05

2018-10-04 Thread Linda Dunbar
Ali, et al: Sorry for the late comments. I remember reviewing/contributing to this draft many years ago. Happy to see it is finally moving to IESG Last Call. The draft describes the mechanism to allow TSs belonging to different subnets attached to same PE to be communicated by the PE (instead

[bess] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-expl-track-11.txt

2018-10-04 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF. Title : Explicit Tracking with Wild Card Routes in Multicast VPN Authors : Andrew Dolganow

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Anush, From: Anush Mohan Date: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:47 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "muthu.a...@gmail.com" , "jiang...@ericsson.com" , "p.muthu.arul.mo...@ericsson.com" , "bess@ietf.org" , "jaikumar.somasunda...@ericsson.com" Subject: Re: [bess] EVPN MH:

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Muthu, From: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Date: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:37 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "jaikumar.somasunda...@ericsson.com" , "bess@ietf.org" , "jiang...@ericsson.com" , "p.muthu.arul.mo...@ericsson.com" Subject: Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Jai, Yes, but see my other email.. if you only have two PEs in the ES, you may optimize things. Thanks. Jorge From: Jaikumar Somasundaram Date: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:39 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , "bess@ietf.org" Cc: Jiang He , P Muthu Arul Mozhi

Re: [bess] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-expl-track-10

2018-10-04 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Hi Eric, On 2018-10-05 04:15, Eric Rosen wrote: >> Minor issues: >> - >> >> As I understand it, if a network only partially supports the new >> (LIR-pF) flag, it doesn't work properly. So we find at the end of >> section 2: >> >> ...the ingress node can conclude >> that the egress

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
Thanks, Jorge. In EVPN single-active dual-homing or EVPN VPWS single-active multi-homing, when other PEs realize that the DF is dead, they all need to re-run the DF election for sure. However, traffic recovery need not wait until the DF election gets over electing a new DF..it only requires the

[bess] Signaling Control Word in EVPN

2018-10-04 Thread Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
RFC 8214 (EVPN VPWS) introduces a new EVPN Layer 2 Attributes extended community for signaling the L2 MTU and other control flags, including the one to signal that the control word needs to be included when sending packets to this PE. It further describes how MTU checking is to be performed when

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Jaikumar Somasundaram
Thanks Jorge for the quick reply. Please find further question below. From: Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 1:52 PM To: Jaikumar Somasundaram ; bess@ietf.org Cc: Jiang He ; P Muthu Arul Mozhi Subject: Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
In-line. Thx Jorge From: Jaikumar Somasundaram Date: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 11:28 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , "bess@ietf.org" Cc: Jiang He , P Muthu Arul Mozhi Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure Thanks Jorge for the

[bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Jaikumar Somasundaram
Hello Everyone, Sorry if it is a duplicate. I repost this query as I did not receive any response yet. (I was wondering if this mail already reached the group or not) I have a question on Primary PE encountering a failure in EVPN multihoming in single active mode. RFC7432, section 14.1.1:

[bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Jaikumar Somasundaram
Hello Everyone, I have a question on Primary PE encountering a failure in EVPN multihoming in single active mode. RFC7432, section 14.1.1: If there is more than one backup PE for a given ES, the remote PE MUST use the primary PE's withdrawal of its set of Ethernet A-D per ES

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi, Questions: 1. Will the node in backup mode forward the packet to CE? [JORGE] as soon as it becomes DF it can forward packets to the CE. The backup node will have to run DF election upon the ES route withdrawal from the primary. If AC-DF is enabled, it can also react to the withdrawal

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
Please see inline.. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:33 PM Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) < jorge.raba...@nokia.com> wrote: > In-line. > > > > Thx > > Jorge > > > > *From: *Jaikumar Somasundaram > *Date: *Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 11:28 AM > *To: *"Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Jai, The new DF becomes DF because it re-runs DF election. Thx Jorge From: Jaikumar Somasundaram Date: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 12:23 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , "bess@ietf.org" Cc: Jiang He , P Muthu Arul Mozhi Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Muthu, About this: Suppose we have a full mesh of iBGP sessions b/w the PEs, then who would withdraw the routes if the primary PE / DF itself fails? Instead, the BGP session would timeout causing the primary PE's neighbors to flush out the A-D routes received from the primary PE, right? This