Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-04-06 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
jassi (sajassi)" , "UTTARO, JAMES" , "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US)" , Eric C Rosen , "Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" Cc: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Hi, We use the virtual ES

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-04-06 Thread John E Drake
:sandy.bre...@eu.clara.net>>, "Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" mailto:satya...@cisco.com>> Cc: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" mailto:saja...@cisco.com>>, "bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>" mailto:bess@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-b

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-04-06 Thread Wen Lin
Rosen , Sandy Breeze , "Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" Cc: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Hi Jim, Draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt is for a very specific use case and th

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-04-04 Thread Sandy Breeze
26, 2018 at 10:46 AM To: Cisco Employee , John E Drake , "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , Eric Rosen , Sandy Breeze , "Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" Cc: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: RE: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem descripti

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-04-03 Thread Wen Lin
hanty (satyamoh)" Cc: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Hi Jim, Draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt is for a very specific use case and that use case is described in sectio

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-27 Thread UTTARO, JAMES
uot;Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" mailto:satya...@cisco.com>> Cc: "bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>" mailto:bess@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Ali, So, is this going to be a family

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-27 Thread Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
Sandy Breeze , "Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" Cc: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Ali, So, is this going to be a family of drafts dealing with inter-connection aspects across a se

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-26 Thread Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)
clara.net>>, "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" mailto:jorge.raba...@nokia.com>>, Eric Rosen mailto:ero...@juniper.net>>, "bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>" mailto:bess@ietf.org>> Subject: RE: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-26 Thread Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
;Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" Cc: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: RE: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Ali, So, is this going to be a family of drafts dealing with inter-connection aspects across a set of use cases ? Would

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-26 Thread UTTARO, JAMES
...@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:20 PM To: UTTARO, JAMES ; John E Drake ; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) ; Eric Rosen ; Sandy Breeze ; Satya Mohanty (satyamoh) Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Hi Jim

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-26 Thread Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
; John E Drake ; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) ; Eric Rosen ; Sandy Breeze ; Satya Mohanty (satyamoh) Cc: bess@ietf.org; Ali Sajassi (sajassi) Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Hi Jim, Wrt multicast for L2 EVPN<-> L3

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-26 Thread UTTARO, JAMES
Rosen ; Sandy Breeze ; Satya Mohanty (satyamoh) Cc: bess@ietf.org; Ali Sajassi (sajassi) Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Hi Jim, Wrt multicast for L2 EVPN<-> L3 EVPN, that should be covered in corresponding EVPN multicast

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-26 Thread Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
"Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" Cc: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: RE: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description All, Should we expand this conversation to a L2 EVPN<-> L3 EVPN space? IOW do we want to tackle this once and

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-26 Thread UTTARO, JAMES
: John E Drake ; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) ; Eric Rosen ; Sandy Breeze ; Satya Mohanty (satyamoh) Cc: Ali Sajassi (sajassi) ; bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description I had some further discussions with the auth

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-26 Thread John E Drake
Satya, Comment inline. Yours Irrespectively, John [John] Wouldn’t it be better to have this draft define a bit in the Multicast Flags extended community (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-01

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-25 Thread Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
: Cisco Employee Cc: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , Eric Rosen , Sandy Breeze , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Ali, I don't mean to quibble but your option A also requir

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-25 Thread John E Drake
at 3:58 AM To: Eric C Rosen mailto:ero...@juniper.net>>, Sandy Breeze mailto:sandy.bre...@eu.clara.net>>, "bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>" mailto:bess@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Eric, a

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-24 Thread Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
ic C Rosen , Sandy Breeze , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Eric, as discussed and you point out, one can easily interpret that IMET is not mandatory in some cases where multi-destination traffic is not

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-24 Thread Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
new scheme. Cheers, Ali From: BESS on behalf of John E Drake Date: Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 8:50 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , Eric Rosen , Sandy Breeze , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-24 Thread Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
en , Sandy Breeze , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Eric, The way the draft is described makes me think there are no IRB interfaces and this is limited to Ingress Replication. But should be clarified. Also

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-24 Thread Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)
t;, Eric C Rosen mailto:ero...@juniper.net>>, "bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>" mailto:bess@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description John, Eric, Jorge, [Sandy] Comments inline On 24/0

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-24 Thread Sandy Breeze
John, Eric, Jorge, [Sandy] Comments inline On 24/03/2018, 10:57, "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" mailto:jorge.raba...@nokia.com>> wrote: Eric, as discussed and you point out, one can easily interpret that IMET is not mandatory in some cases where multi-destination traffic is not n

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-24 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
cents. Jorge From: Eric C Rosen Date: Friday, March 23, 2018 at 5:00 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , Sandy Breeze , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description [Jorge] my interpretatio

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-23 Thread Eric C Rosen
[Jorge] my interpretation of RFC7432 is that IMET routes are mandatory to enable the handling of multi-destination traffic in a BD. But in a non-DF PE for a given ES and with no other ACs in the BD, assuming Ingress Replication, there is no such multi-destination traffic (Tx or Rx). So one coul

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-22 Thread John E Drake
Hi, Comments inline Yours Irrespectively, John From: Sandy Breeze Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 1:42 PM To: John E Drake ; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) ; Eric Rosen ; bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-22 Thread Sandy Breeze
ntain View) Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:58 AM To: Eric Rosen ; Sandy Breeze ; bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Eric, The way the draft is described makes me think there are no IRB interfaces and this is limited to Ingress

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-22 Thread Sandy Breeze
bject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description On 3/21/2018 12:36 PM, Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) wrote: This scenario definitively helps understand the use-case better. Still a bit specific but I think you should add this scenar

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-22 Thread John E Drake
Rosen ; Sandy Breeze ; bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Eric, The way the draft is described makes me think there are no IRB interfaces and this is limited to Ingress Replication. But should be clarified. Also my

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-22 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
badan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , Sandy Breeze , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description On 3/21/2018 12:36 PM, Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) wrote: This scenario definitively helps und

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-22 Thread Eric C Rosen
On 3/21/2018 12:36 PM, Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) wrote: This scenario definitively helps understand the use-case better. Still a bit specific but I think you should add this scenario to the draft, and again, make it Informational since there is no control plane change for this

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-21 Thread Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)
bre...@eu.clara.net>>, "bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>" mailto:bess@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description Hi Sandy, The key point in here is that the proposal is intended for EVPN GWs (and not P